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    Clevo PA71ES-G 8850h GTX1070 144HZ G-Sync?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Robertjan88, Sep 23, 2018.

  1. Robertjan88

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    Hi all,

    I am currently considering buying the Clevo PA71ES-G which includes the following specs:

    CPU: i7 8850h
    GPU: GTX1070
    Screen: 17.3 inch 144HZ IPS G-Sync
    Memory: 32GB G-Skill DDR4 2400 (2x16GB)
    HDD: Samsung 970 PRO 512GB
    Wifi: Killer 1550 AC

    The main things I am worried about are the color accuracy of the display (which will be used for photo and 4k video editing as well as limited gaming) and the potential thermal throtteling.
    Does someone own the PA71 incl. i7 8850h and is able to share his experience?

    Thanks!
     
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    For color or photo work I would highly recommend a Dell XPS, Surfacebook or MacBook. All the Clevos I've used have only a Max of 70% Adobe rgb.

    Or get a a good clevo and a good, color calibrated monitor.
     
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    Living in Spain unfortunately. We have a Clevocenter uphere, but they aren't an official reseller, nor selling the 4k versions. Would consider mysn.de as they are official or other resellers that are closer to Spain. :)
     
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    I'm sure laptopparts4less ships to Spain. But Obsidian in Portugal is another awesome reseller and they ship to Spain, obviously. https://www.obsidian-pc.com/en/gaming-laptops-clevo-english-cat

    They are more expensive than laptopparts4less, but less than mysn.de, I think. What do you mean with 'official resellers'?
     
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    Just checked Obsidian. Still managed to hit the 3k EUR for the 17 inch 4k, GTX 1070, 8700k (as the i5 8600k is performing worse than e.g. the 8750h and 8850h), 32GB DDR and the 970Pro 512GB. Of course the screen is an amazing 4k instead of 1080p 144HZ, but the difference is around 700 EUR with PA71. Maybe I need to wait for a 15-20% discount promotion. :-D

    I previously posted about ClevoCenter and Eurocom, but people mentioned they are not official (certified) retailers. :(
     
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    With laptopparts it's at least €300 cheaper.

    I would opt for a 8700 non-K if you need the multi-threading, otherwise a 8600K is just fine, certainly compared to the 8750H. The 8850H would have throttled badly in the PA71 chassis anyway ;-)

    Depending on your professional needs you could go for 16GB RAM, save up and add another 16GB when prices drop further. Also, the 970PRO is expensive. Again, depending on your professional needs, I would save up and go for (a) a Crucial MX500; (b) a 970 EVO; (c) a smaller sized 970 combined with an additional bigger but less expensive SSD or SSHD.

    Remember that you can easily upgrade the P775 chassis. You could even buy a 8400, 8500 or 8600K cpu now and upgrade to the 9900K later. In other words, you can spread your cpu, RAM, and SSD costs over a longer period of time.

    Does it matter to be a 'certified' reseller? After all, they just buy the chassis and put some components in. The TLC you get from the reseller is much more important, imo.
     
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    Unfortunately, the 8600k is slower than the 8750h inside Clevo laptops.
    E.g. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-Ultra-15-Clevo-P751TM1-G-Laptop-Review.290330.0.html

    The p955 is scoring around 1100 points in CineBench while the p751 is scoring under 1000.

    32GB is essential for me as I will be editing a lot of 4k content with other programs in the background.
    The SSD I can have a look at however. So far I have always had Samsung SSD drives and they are amazing.
     
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    Yes, for multithreading applications the 8750H will outdo the 8600K. However, take into account that the cinebench score often represents a single pass, and that the 8750H cannot hold its turbo boost:

    P995:
    "Turbo Boost sustainability is good but not perfect. As shown by our graph below, running CineBench R15 Multi-Thread in a loop results in an initial highest score before quickly falling in subsequent runs. Its initial score of 1069 stabilizes to around 960 points for a performance drop of about 10 percent." https://www.notebookcheck.net/Euroc...D-Laptop-Review.306110.0.html#toc-performance

    P751TM:
    "We check whether or not the Turbo boost can be used over prolonged periods of time by running the Cinebench R15 multi-core benchmark in a continuous loop for 30 minutes. As you can see in the chart below, the performance remains constant over time." https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...G-Laptop-Review.290330.0.html#toc-performance

    In fact the 8600K can hold above 980 points, more than the 8750H.
     
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    True! I was also looking at the Aorus x5 V8. That laptop is around 2300 EUR uphere and it's 8850h is able to maintain around 1200 points according to Notebookcheck's review, for a longer time. In the end, it's obviously all about cooling.

    Would love to have P751 or P771. But again, the price difference is quite substantial. So is the weight of the laptop. :)
     
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    The Aorus is a great laptop, also for its stylish looks!

    However, isn't the 32GB RAM version even more expensive?
     
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    You are right. The 2300 is for the 16GB version, however, as far as I know this can easily be replaced with 2x16.
    If I sell the 2x8 and buy 2x16 it will be tops 2400 EUR in total.

    It does reduces the difference though and the WLAN of the Aorus has some issues.

    Though choice. :)
    Really didnt plan on spending more than 2300-2500.

    Was hoping the PA71 didn't have too much thermal throtteling and was able to hit around 1200. It would have been a great balance. :)