Clevo PA71ES-G or P775TM1-G

I'm having trouble deciding which laptop I should buy so I'm hoping for some advice. I'm going to use the laptop for PSP/LR en lots of multitasking (so no gaming) and although I am not too concerned about the temperatures I am concerned about the fan noise. Would I be correct in assuming that with the same configuration (and cooling paste) and the same use, the P775TM1-G will be less noisy than the PA71ES-G because the fans will need to work less to keep it just as cool (because the chassis is bigger)?

I like the weight of the PA71ES-G better (it weighs less), but the fan noise is more important to me so if it does make a difference I would choose on that basis. Are there other factors I should take in consideration?

Thanks in advance.

 

IIRC, the P775TM1 does handle temps better thanks to an all around better cooling system, but fan noise is potentially louder (if comparing apples to apples, e.g. max fans on both models).

 

Even if they're the same volume, I'd still go with the P775. Personal observation so YMMV, but I've found that when they get loud, the models with the thinner fans have a higher pitched and more annoying sound.

 

I’ve had the same discussion. You have to look at all the factors (form, thermals) and decide what is most important to you. If you need portability (weight), a specific key board, specific performance, understand you won’t be able to get them all in one neat package.

I plan to use my future P775 machine primarily for gaming when home (3 out of 4 weeks), and on the road (at the hotel) for about 1 out of 4 weeks. When home, I plan on pushing the pedal to the metal to get the most enjoyment from the machine’s performance. On the road, I’ll do some work from the hotel, watch Netflix and catchup with my favorite YouTube bloggers. I’ll also sneak in some gaming if time permits.

My current laptop throttles like a demon at the hotel. My last trip I was seeing temps in the 90s across my cores, despite elevating the laptop using bottle caps. The loss in performance while on the road, however, has been small relative to the amount of time I plan to spend on the machine. Not preferred, but certainly something I have come to accept.

With regards to the P775, I plan to get it from HIDEvolution, a Prema partner, to ensure it has the Prema BIOS. The PA71ES does not have the Prema BIOS available. I want the Prema BIOS to realize the maximum performance I can get while home between trips. I plan to reasonably overclock which will further pressure thermals.

 

Thanks. Potentially louder you say, but that's probably when the load is very high? You think it would be louder even without gaming?

 

Ah, that's a good point, I hadn't thought of that!

 

Yes, noise is a human and subjective measure that pure db numbers hide.

 

I can get both models with about the same config, so as far as I can determine it's a choice between the lighter PA71ES and the potentially less noisy (or less irritating noise) P775. Between the two (weight and fan noise) the noise is a more important factor to me, but it's a bit of a guess as to the difference in fan noise between the two.

You say you've had the same discussion, did you have it here on notebookreview? Do you have a link? I'd like to read it.

But that's only while gaming? Not while netflixing etcetara I presume?


I see I'm going to have to read up about the Prema Bios.

 

If size and weight is not a problem P775 all the way!
I do not agree with the noise thing, PA71 will have 3 fans, thinner with higher pitch sound, while the P775 only got 2 fans, bigger with lower tone noise.
PA71 will spend more time in high fan rpms then the P775

 

During browsing/video workloads the machine will be quiet.

 

Thanks! That would sway my descision to the P775, even though it weighs more (I'm not going to travel with it, but will be using it all over the house).

 

What do you think about the fan noise during PSP/LR?

 

Depends on the load levels, for light work it should not have to spool up. If you bring both the CPU and GPU in then things will get noisier.

 

Last point to consider is the configured price for both laptops. In my reseller builds, I hit the $3k mark very quickly for both machines. I have expensive tastes - comes from being an engineer. Paying that much and more for a well equipped system, I expect it to last several years as long as hardware still works and software continues to support.

A simple, quiet machine that only streams video and light gaming could be accomplished with a sub $1k laptop that can be replaced in a year or two. What I'm looking for in a laptop is one that will hold its own for years to come and be up to the challenge for whatever life throws at it!

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Thanks Meaker.

Thanks! I do want my laptop to last for years (my current one is 7 years old) but I don't really need the best of the best performance wise (because I won't be playing demanding games), my config will cost me about 2k (euro). If not for my demand for an IPS panel which has at least 100% of the sRGB color space, I could easily have a nice machine for about 1k. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a real good panel in 1k machines, so I have been forced to up my budget quite a bit. Clevo is the only brand that provides me the possibility to buy a great machine with a great panel (4k 100% Adobe RGB) and good config for just under 2k (this is for both models by the way).

 

Extended warranties are always worth considering too if you need the machine for certain to keep going for a long period (no matter the brand)

 

I'm not sure whether it's worth it. Almost everything can be replaced if it breaks, that's an advantage of a Clevo in my opinion.

 

Just to let you know, I ended up choosing the P775TM1-G. It has just arrived so I'm still getting to know the machine, but so far I'm very happy with it. Thanks for your advice.

 

Parts can still be expensive or troubles difficult to diagnose.

Regardless enjoy your system

 

Im leaning towards buying Clevo PA71ES from HIDevolution, it has a cheap price and their support is awesome

 

Hi

I´m from Portugal, and i´m wondering the same kind of buy. Will use for GAMING!

I will probably buy from Obsidian.
Just wondering about Thermal throttling with either of these laptops.
PA71ES is cheaper, and if buying P775TM1, i will buy with just the i5 8600k (and still paying about 400€ more)

Probably a stupid question, but do you guys think i should w8 for the gtx 2000 cards.

I will be carrying the laptop in a backpack from city to city, and setting it up on a fixed table (no movement for a few days at a time), so i guess size isn´t that big of an issue.
Still.. do you think it´s worth the 400euros?

Thankz again
João Bonifácio

PS: won´t buy another laptop for about 5 to 6 years. My last one was P170HM (so a bit old)

 

For gaming the mobile CPU will be fine, do you tend to overclock and tweak it or just run it as is?

 

No overclock.
If needed I'll undervolt

I won't push beyond normal clocks

 

If it's just gaming you're probably fine. There's really not enough information about future GPUs to advise in a meaningful way, except to say that if you can afford to wait you can afford to wait, but if you need something now, it's never really a bad time to buy.

 

The mobile system with a bit of an undervolt will serve you well in this case.