Clevo Price Drop Wanted!

European countries...yes. If a shipped box surpasses a value of some hundred Euros then it's subject to being taxes (VAT mostly).

 

dude, your mistaken. there are ones that would.

maybe not in USA, but i bet I could talk one or two that really needed the money to do it. but that's besides the point. - ive got businesses to gift to me lots.



i'm telling you how to do it.

seriously.

you have a friend in the states.

give them money, get them to buy it. then send it to you as a gift.

loopholes. Exploitations. Social Engineering.

 

maybe in ROMANIA bud.

but we send gifts to the UK, and FRANCE where we have relatives all the time.

plus we buy things and send birthday presents to them as well.

my cousins from the UK live here and they do things like this all the time.
there is things that their parents can't get there and it's cheaper here in Canada. so we exploit this fact and get away with it.

there is tons of ways to exploit taxes.

ever Read Perpetual Tourism?

teaches you how to never pay taxes on a single thing ever.
income tax to whatever.


Seriously.

they never have to pay taxes. not on their birthday presents or Christmas presents.

and they have alot of birthdays.

 

LOL. A lot of birthdays.

I`ve heard of Perpetual Tourism, I just never thought people actually buy that crap
It`s nice to hear that you could 'gift' a 4k laptop and not pay a single tax for it

 

I think that is what I did (not with shipping costs). Although Novatech prices are good for European standards it is still 23% above the US prices. That is not good IMHO but I've seen much worse (things like 40% to 50% up).

Anyway, I think I've said enough. DELL is in Europe selling for 2599 € a full blown SLi config with RAID0 (320GB). Also for 1853€ you can buy a DELL with a 8700GT, upgradeable to SLi and RAID. Compare this with the Clevo EU prices well if that is not fierce competition I don't know what it is.

Have fun,

Trance

 

You can`t compare the #2 laptop selling company in the world (or as I`ve heard, #1 again) with Clevo`s designs for extreme gaming.

When you say Dell-you mean mainstream. If you want a gaming notebook,and you know squat about laptops,you buy an utterly overpriced Dell, because you are familiar with the name.

Most people don`t even research before buying a laptop, which is sad,cause companies like Dell and Hp and Asus get away with high priced power machines,since there is no real competition in terms of notebooks in EU. So sad.

 

dexgo, you can do that, agreed, but it depends on two things:
1. the declared value
2. hoping for the people at the Customs to believe your declared value.

They charge you to the declared value (x% VAT out of that). Basically if they don't believe the package is worth y$ then they can open it and see what's inside, at which point they will charge you VAT according to their catalog.

 

Hi eleron911,

"If you want a gaming notebook,and you know squat about laptops,you buy an utterly overpriced Dell, because you are familiar with the name."

Havent' you heard?

"DELL is in Europe selling for 2599 € a full blown SLi config with RAID0 (320GB). "

Tell me a EU shop I can buy a Clevo similar to these specs at that price (SLi et all)?

"with Clevo`s designs for extreme gaming"

Spare me the mambo jambo In the end we all go to laptopvideo2go to get the best drivers to fine tune oue machines . The SLi of the 8700M GT, well not very good.

Stay cool,

Trance

 

Yeah, in Europe there is a problem, indeed. But even if you can configure a 9262 in US + SLI then add the VAT you're at Dell's EU price. That ignoring the shipping costs.

 

right.

we haven't had any problems yet.

it helps when we pay the shipper extra as well.

what we have seen is when we Choose the most expensive shipping type it gets overlooked. well it it has for us everytime.

and if we were sending a laptop.

like we did a PS3 to my NEPHEW in UK. we put Broken Ps3 value 40 dollars on it.

it worked.

 

That all depends on what you mean by "pay." If by "pay" you mean "bear the economic burden of," then, generally, speaking, that's true; however, if by "pay" you mean "have to increase the amount written on the check to include an amount for VAT," that's not generally true because, to my understanding, most European (most countries world-wide, actually) use a credit-type VAT system in which a business pays VAT on its purchases and then receives a credit against the amount of VAT it is obligated to collect from its sales and pay over to the tax-collector in the amount of VAT it paid on its purchases.

The point of this being, basically, to ensure that VAT is paid (at least once), and to give businesses an incentive to charge, collect, and pay over VAT on their own sales.

 

What he mean I think is that VAT is a transferable finantial burden.
Say we have a Product being sold. On one product it works like this:

Consumer Pays to the Shop: PriceX + VATX
Shop pays to the Supplier: PriceY + VATY

The Shop will pay to the state VATX-VATY

So in the end, the Shop does not pay any VAT over the product being sold.

In some countries, VAT might even not be charged to the buyer if the buyer is another company. In this countries I think that companies give all the VAT received from their personal customers (non companies) to the state. I think it is better this way (less complicated).

Stay cool,

Trance

 

That's what I thought; I just like to make sure.