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    Clevo Satisfaction Poll

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Vedya, Apr 26, 2008.

  1. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    This is a poll to see how much people are happy with their clevo notebooks.
     
  2. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    If you voted, would you be kind enough to eleaborate on your selection?
     
  3. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    It must be a joke.I mean who here doesn`t love their laptops?
    If they wouldn`t they`d sell it and not even post here...
    I love mine, it looks cool,acts cool,stays cool,plays cool.
     
  4. boypogi

    boypogi Man Beast

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    broken motherboard..
     
  5. The_Observer

    The_Observer 9262 is the best:)

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    I haven't found anything wrong with the Sager 5760 and the Clevo D901C I have.Plus the cust service is very good.Prompt and to the point.
     
  6. MrProim

    MrProim Notebook Consultant

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    Nothing more to add! :D :D
     
  7. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Yes, I know. But many people are hesitant to buy a laptop amde by clevo because they dont consider it "mainstream". This is a poll from fellow users for prospective buyers
     
  8. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    great but not perfect, their need to work out the palm rest heat
     
  9. DawidOku

    DawidOku Notebook Geek

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    Hi,
    Mine M570RU-U is great so far no problems encounered, I'm very happy with it's performance and especially the price. It's not as cool looking as DELL XPS 1730 but far cheaper and lighter. I carry it a lot with me so it's important for me. I'm far more happy with it ,than I expected to be! There are some people which have downclocking issue but let's face the truth nothing is perfect and flawless. I only hope it will be solved soon.
    T9300, 8800M GTX, 4GB RAM, 1900*1200, 200 GB 7200 Seagate, Vista HP 64bit with SP1 and 10014 3D Marks 06 ( 600 1400 900).
     
  10. Pimpaholic

    Pimpaholic Notebook Consultant

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    Yea posting a poll on Clevo satisfaction in a Clevo-biased forum prolly isn't the best idea. Then again, after looking around the forum, where else would you put a poll such as this?

    Anyway I love my clevo, and Its very hard to imagine my next notebook being otherwise. Though they could work on driver compatibility, especially in GPUs..
     
  11. Doodles

    Doodles Starving Student

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    Definitely great.. but, LCD flickering issues (had to manually reseat some connecting wires and ivnerter). Keyboard key stayed depressed cuzing it not be able to start up (had to replace). Gets a bit hot when left on with the lid closed (specifically palm rest area). Lastly, both a plus and a minus, its SOO upgradeable you can always have the newest in technology.... if you like to pay the pretty penny so your not outdated every month (but that goes with alotta technology). Btw... this problem also depends alot on the reseller for many people.
     
  12. Spinnel

    Spinnel Notebook Consultant

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    Does the vote include "Just bought" Clevo? ;) If yes, option 1 suits me :D
     
  13. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    OPtion 2 states taht "they are not the best". Meaning that if you have minor problems with your celvo, but you think another brand would have been better, chose that.

    I voted OPtion 1, cus although I would like it to have 2HDD, who else could have given an 8800m for 2.2-2.4K?
     
  14. 6edo

    6edo Notebook Evangelist

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    I am totally happy with it... I still had a noisy desktop mit Pentium 3,2 Ghz and there is such a huge difference while editing videos and so on...
    The only thing I don't like are the BIOS because they are too limited.
     
  15. scooberdoober

    scooberdoober Penguins FTW!

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    This should have been a "public poll".
     
  16. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Yea, Khman
    I sugest you PM chaz to move this into the Gaming area or News or something...
    Otherwise only Clevo subjective people will vote.
    But I guess it`s ok also this way...since it`s only about the units already bought.
     
  17. Rebel

    Rebel Notebook Consultant

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    I really do enjoy my laptop. The only problem is that the little things, keybaord errors/tv tuner/etc are adding up. They are more of an irritant than a problem at this point.

    Rebel
     
  18. bigjohnsonforever

    bigjohnsonforever Notebook Evangelist

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    I wanted to put 100% happy sooo bad, but IMO Clevo/Sager needs to refocus a bit of their effort toward driver updating. My 8800M GTX screams, but due to driver backwards-compatibility issues some older games I like to play have some issues, such as MFS: Most Wanted, which stutters for about 1-2 seconds every 5-10 minutes, it doesn't really hinder game play but it is pretty annoying... :(
     
  19. Paendrag

    Paendrag Notebook Consultant

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    I got the Sager NP5973

    I have to disagree with the statement that you cant be unbiased as an owner of a product in a forum like this. Even as a owner and a fan of my laptop I dont have to be stupid/blind in my evaluation of the product I purchased and I am still comparing with other laptops.

    -My Sager is great performance wise.

    -Design is average. Nothing special imho. Look at the M15X or Macbooks and it becomes obvious that there are better NB in this respective.

    -The Speakers are plainly spoken bulls**t. My ears start bleeding when I have to use them.

    -Its noisy as hell, but theres nothing to be done about that I guess. Its a high-performance NB anyway.

    -The quality of the casing is average as well. Not good, not bad.

    -The price is very good. You get the best bang for your buck I think.

    I went with the second option. Great but not the best.

    Paendrag
     
  20. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    100% Happy - Couldnt get any better :D Price/performance+quality+support wise... ;)
     
  21. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    just a quick note, the fan never kicked in full speed even i play 3 hours games straight, crysis, bf2142, colin:dirt, etc. the highest temp it ever got so far is 46C
    it's Nvidia's fault, can't blame Clevo
     
  22. Paendrag

    Paendrag Notebook Consultant

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    Ok, possibly my fans are often on a full blast due to the hot environment I am living in. The ambient temperature is 28 degrees celcius in the shade atm. But its going to be even hotter from now on... :(

    If you are running your machine in a cooler environment it probably will not run on max fanspeed.

    Paendrag

    p.s.
    46 degrees on your gpu? with crysis? Are you living in a deepfreezer? :p

    Honestly...you are talking about cpu right?
     
  23. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I don`t think anyone`s fans are on full blast.
    The CPU fan might go to 100% at ~55-60C but the gpu fan never turn on on full by itself.
    If you don`t believe me, use Fn+1 and see for yourself what full blast is. :)
    Also,if the temp worries you,you can undervolt the cpu and lower the cpu temps quite a lot. 5-10C .
    About the GPU, up to 75-80C is pretty normal when gaming at WUXGA max details especially, since that puts the most stress on the gpu.
     
  24. Paendrag

    Paendrag Notebook Consultant

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    The temps I get are in that regions too..

    cpu (C2D T9300 2,5ghz) 45-55 dgc
    gpu (8800M GTX) 70-75 dgc
    hdd (7200rpm) 50-55 dgc

    used hwmonitor for the readouts.

    I also use a zalman nc-2000 notebook cooler.

    If things should get messy Ill get a big fan in my study working to cool down the air a bit...

    I am going to test out the three settings this evening...

    fn+1 max fanspeed
    fn+2 standard setting
    fn+3 silent mode

    right?

    Btw I am playing only Armed Assault, Homm5 and Medieval II Total war atm...
    Everything on max but Armed Assault... there I had to reduce some settings from very high to high. Res. always at 1920x1200. AA off.

    Paendrag
     
  25. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    You use a Zalman and still get 70-75C ?
    It`s way to much . It should not get there. I`m guessing your system was not endowed with Arctic Silver 5. You`ll have to manually do it to decrease the temps.
    Fn+1 = max fan speed, Fn+1 again auto mode.
    Fn+2 = turn on/off the SRS Wow Audio thing :D
    Fn+3 = forced medium mode AT ALL TIMES,regardless of temp increase.
    Which reminds me, I was gaming UT3 and forced medium fans and only hit 72C for the CPU and 71C for the GPU.
    That`s why 70-75 on auto mode seems high for your system.
    One question though : how hot is it there? Cause if ambient temp is over 30C,it might explain it...
     
  26. Paendrag

    Paendrag Notebook Consultant

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    Ahh, thx for getting the modes straight eleron911, I got it all wrong, lol :D

    I am living not far from Taiwan on a small Island, which is one of the southernmost islands in Japan.

    Today was cloudy and it rained a lot but temps where around 26 degrees. Yesterday it was quite hot, maybe close to 30 degrees in the shade between 1-3pm. I will get into the 30`s for sure in the hight of summer...

    How can I check whether I got the as5 paste or something else? Guess need to remove the fan from the gpu? Or can I check it out via some product-code?

    thx for the help and sorry for all the ot questions....

    Paendrag
     
  27. zeemona

    zeemona Notebook Enthusiast

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    I HATE CLEVO .,,
    I BOUGHT FROM THEM A DEFECTIVE NOTEBOOK FOR 2500 USD
     
  28. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

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    More Derails..?
     
  29. bigjohnsonforever

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    If I'm just doing basic computing, web, music, docs, I set my power mode to "Power Saver" to keep the noise level down, of course I had to deactivate sleep.

    @Paendrag: Everyone has their opinion on what a "good" design looks like. Some people like shiny, glassy, chromey electronics with flashing lights and and lit up keyboards. Come on, when I'm using my notebook in the dark my screen provides more than enough light to see the keyboard and even the dim power button light pisses me off- the only light I want to see coming from my laptop is from the screen!

    The speakers are pretty weak compared to recent top rung notebooks... but better than my old HP zd8000.
     
  30. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    id hate to say but id have to pick option 2. cust service has been great. the chassis imo has a few weaks spots. the whole advertising "upgradable" is fine but then it costs nearly as much as a whole new system to do so.. and how often is this needed??

    i had a bad keyboard, a lid with a small dent in it (both are now fixed) and my screen imo is def not that great. other than the i really like my system and i now have no complaints since i fixed everything.
     
  31. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Care to elaborate...?
     
  32. The_Observer

    The_Observer 9262 is the best:)

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    I would also like to hear about zeemona's problem.
     
  33. Antebios

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    I LOVE my Clevo, but that's not to say it is perfect.

    *The USB ports could be spread out.
    *The keyboard could be laid out differently to allow a full numeric keypad without sacrifice the Insert/Delete, Home/End, and PageUp/PageDown keys on the keypad.
    *The icons on the LCD bezel and chasis could be actual white images instead of etches on the plastic.
    *Mouse pad buttons could have allowed a middle button

    The icing on top would have been buttons directly for volume/mute, lcd brightness, and maybe a built-in LCD light on the top.

    But, at the end of the day, IT ROCKS!!!!
     
  34. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    Yea it's CPU temp. I live in new york city. my room temp is around 17C
     
  35. Paendrag

    Paendrag Notebook Consultant

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    True, design is a matter of taste. I just stated my own opinion about this mater. There are quite a lot of people who abhorr a blinking x-mastree like the m15x :D

    I think the Sager NP5793 Casing is rather standard, nothing special. Like I said, I think you can do better in this regard...

    Paendrag
     
  36. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I am very satisfied with my Sager NP5320 (Clevo M560A). It has been running strong for over 2.5 years and has never given me any problems. It has proved to be a durable machine too, it looks like the day I got it. I'm going to keep using it until it dies.
     
  37. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Agreed with the point that design is a matter (largely) of taste; however, matters of function and matters of, for lack of a better term, decoration, stand on different footings.

    In terms of the desireability, or not, of a "standard, nothing special" case - I am ready to get my hands on a standard case in which the components, like the hdd, are readily accessible without dismantling the entire laptop.

    Case in point, my $(*&$#% vaio, which has a fancy little "designer" case that obliges me to strip down half the computer just to get to the hdd. At one point, when I had some serious hdd "issues," I fantasized about taking my dremel to the case and making the hdd permanently accessible, and even tried to put together a 44-pin extension to the hdd connector so that I could have an external "internal" drive while I was trying to sort the drive issues out. Back then, I would have killed (almost) for a "standard, nothing special" case that allowed me access to the hdd by undoing two or three screws and sliding off an access panel.

    Who knows? I've been perusing the cosmetic mods forum for ideas; once I get a replacement (almost got the $$ for a 9262 :D ), I'm going to do some serious "designing" on the case of this vaio.
     
  38. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    lol ive actually done that... a long while back i made a custom cable to allow me to run a hdd outside the case... dont really remember why i did it but i know it worked great
     
  39. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I gave it a freshman try, but I really didn't have a lot of leisure time to work it out. Basically, what happened it that I had a new 120GB hdd that failed, so I bought another one, only 160GB, to replace it. Since the 120GB drive had died (too many blossoming bad sectors), I did another install from the _Sony "recovery" discs (which do a factory-fresh install, complete with the bloatware).

    Unfortunately, this vaio has (a) a hard-set 137GB limit on hdds (to accomodate the old upper limit on hdd size, as I found out after the fact :( ), and the _Sony discs only "do" four sizes for the c: partition, 8GB up to 15GB. Thus, when I did the factory reset install, I ended up with about 23GB of "lost" disk space, not even counting the space that gets lost to overhead. In other words, the factory install downgraded a 160GB nominal hdd to a 128GB actual space hdd.

    To fix that, I cloned the c: partition on the new hdd to the old d: partition on the old hdd (which I knew still worked), dismounted the partitions on the new hdd so there wouldn't be any conflict with what I did next, swapped the drives, again, booted from the ersatz boot partition on the old hdd, put the new drive into an external enclosure, and then used Acronis disk director to locate the "lost" space and added it back to the c: partition on the new hdd (and, for good measure, resized both partitions and added a third - I like compartmentalization - so that I now have three approximately equal partitions). Since I already had a "c:" partition, I couldn't reassign a drive letter, so... I marked the c: partition on the new hdd as bootable (i.e., "active" in MS-speak), swapped the drives around again, and, lo and behold, ended up with a physical hdd that is, in fact, bigger than the 137GB limit hard-coded in the BIOS. :D

    All in all, that required three complete tear-down & rebuild operations (since getting at the hdd requires taking the whole thing apart). That was a chore that I do not want to repeat!
     
  40. Cannavar

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    Constantly broken fans. :(
     
  41. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Holy crap dude. Air Conditioning or what?
    I managed to get my temps to 65C GPU when WUXGA gaming (or about 55C with Vsync ON :D ) and 57C now for the CPU, heavily undervolted :D
     
  42. Brandan

    Brandan Notebook Enthusiast

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    I wouldn't know yet. I'm still waiting on mine. It's the 3rd week now ):
    I got off the phone yesterday from Xotic yesterday saying there is a delay with my screen. I'm happy I called because they weren't answering my emails all day. Would have been nice if they atleast emailed me when they didn't have the part in. Just venting i know they are trying
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Venting is understood; it's normal to be impatient when you're waiting to get one of these systems.

    On the other hand, that's why they give you more than one way to contact them - if they're working flat-out to get everyone's orders out, an email is too easy to miss; a loud ringing phone is not. :D Hey, at least they let us get in touch with them - most big businesses these days only want to let us get in touch with foreigners (who are, almost to a one - I've chatted with way too many - very, very nice people, but they can't do anything, and - to my cynical mind - the only thing they're trained to do is say "no").
     
  44. Brandan

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    Yeah just been 3 weeks today. I am also shipping out in two weeks from today so getting the computer is stressing me. I just got my orders yesterday. If there was going to be a delay on the build process and email would have been good enough for me to let me know when this happened a few days to a week ago. That way i'm not stressed out too much to atleast know what happened. If the computer gets here and i'm not here I know I could tell a friend to come pick it up and ship it to me. But thats only if i got the email. Otherwise I would be deployed without knowing what happend and couldn't do anything about it. Just those types of things. Also i didn't know i was getting my orders this early.
     
  45. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Try pm'ing justin@xoticpc to see if the order's in a position where they might be able to expedite it a bit for you - they're generally reasonable (much more so than the big national guys) if you're reasonable with them. Also, good luck and godspeed on your tour.
     
  46. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Brandan - please PM me with your order details and your questions and I would be happy to assist. :)
     
  47. Brandan

    Brandan Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's fine it's not really their fault at all. Just unexpected orders came up all of a sudden.
     
  48. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Understood, but give justin a pm - you may get a pleasant surprise that takes some of the sting out of the unexpectedness of the orders.
     
  49. Brandan

    Brandan Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes I have. I'm just really stressed and need to get everything moving. I hate it when i get late orders.
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'll keep my fingers crossed. :)
     
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