Clevo W870CU

It looks like Clevo has unveiled the successor to the M570TU. Also unveiled is the successor to the M860TU, the W860CU. The D900F and M980NU also make a second appearance at Computex. Other notable Clevo systems are showcased as well.

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http://notebookitalia.it/clevo-w870cu-gamestation-con-intel-calpella-5685.html
http://portables4gamers.com/?p=8093
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/event/20090603_212241.html

 

Cant watch you tube right now on my iphone-

Is this a 15" or 17"?

 

Both the W870CU and W860CU will be in 16:9 in their respective 17.3 inch and 15.6 inch sizes. They will also feature the Mobile i7 and i5 processors.

 

Wow, I wasn't expecting an M86XTU successor so soon.

 

is there a timeline or something. This seems really early from when the 8662 was released not that long ago.

 

damn, i like that keyboard!

 

Ooooooh myyyyyyy Technology God, why hath thou forsaken me?

Those are probably MXM 3.0b too.....

 

Looks like this is the end of WUXGA as well.

 

So can someone put this into layman's terms? Is the new 860 going to be worlds apart from the current one?

Also, no one knows the estimated release date right?

 

We don't know enough about the Calpella to make that prediction. Last I heard, they were clocked really low and were ridiculously expensive, but that may have changed.

As far as GPUs, it's a safe bet to assume they'll be MXM 3.0b, which means 950MHz memory instead of 800MHz, as well as the potential for upgradeability to the next generation of mobile cards.

 

It seems the W860CU will have the 260M as well, and it will use Clarksfield processors.

Here's a site (French) with some info, courtesy of Google translate

 

No one has pictures of the W860CU. That's actually the M865TU pictured in all of these articles.

 

Yeah, I didn't see one in the video either.

 

I would assume by the time these come out early next year, they'll have next gen nvidia cards as well. Oh well, what can you do

 

nooooo...they're 16:9'in it

Oh well, us 16:10'ers have lost the battle. You would think that with the D900F being 16:10 still this new W870CU would follow suit.

Nonetheless, I like the new styling though. Seems they went with the edge to edge hinges like in the lenovo ideapad and the dell studio lines.

 

Ichime, can i ask you why suddenly all manufacturers decided to switch over to 16:9? I like the extra pixels for 16:10

 

Because 16:9 is cheaper to manufacturer for some reason.

 

It's cheaper because you can manufacture it off the same LCDs used for 16:9 HDTVs so you don't need to make a new batch simply for computer screens and one simply for TVs. Something like that at least.

Anyways, this looks pretty good, but Id expect the GPU to change since by the time Intel Calpella is out, Nvidia might have new GPUs out as well. The new chassis is nice though ^_^

Any word on the size/weight o this thing in comparison to the NP8662? Bigger, smaller, heavier, lighter?

 

I'm more interested in the W860CU. I'm personally hoping for RGB LED backlit screens and Smart Bays.

 

Clevo will not do smart bays. I guarantee this.

 

Besides, as we've learned, it's not too hard to make your own for the purpose of that extra HDD.

 

That's what i'm confused about... the last i remember. HDTV's usually came in at about 17/19 inch minimum nowadays... since so many laptops and monitors are made at 16:10.. it feels to me like the costs would be somewhat similar.... Then again, even the new 21.5/23 inch monitors are at native 1600x900 i.e. the new samsung touch of colors.

 

There was a post somewhere explaining the purpose of 16:9 aspect ratios for TVs. It said something like that ratio allowed films to be displayed and not distorted regardless at which resolution the film itself was filmed at.

It's a question of cost efficiency for them. If they plan a rectangle of LCDs to be cut for certain pieces of 16:9 TVs, they can still use that same rectangle for laptop LCDs if those are still 16:9, thus saving the time and cost of having another batch made specifically for another resolution.

I thought similar reasons were applied for the 4:3--->16:10 change no?

 

Look like you right about it being really "low clock" that:

Link here

 

The video and the articles do not show the W860CU; we have yet to see a picture of one.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have lost the war to 16:9. I clutch my beloved 16:10 notebook as it is the last of the legacy that started with the M570A four years ago.

 

still no pic of the w860cu ???

 

Oooh W860cu looks promising. I hope it has switchable graphics (which it won't). But man 1.33ghz clocked quad? Lol and I didn't go for the Q9000 because it was clocked too low. Even if it has hyperthreading.. 1.33ghz?

 

That's the lowest one. There's something like 1.33, 1.6, and 2.0 models.

 

The Mobile i7's are expected to be 40% faster than the current C2Q Q9xxx, so don't let the low clocks fool you. Intel hasn't announced the Mobile i7 Extreme yet, but when they do, it's going to destroy the QX9300.

 

Ya the raw power of the desktop i7 is impressive but is it me or the hyperthreading is eye-candy. In Cinebench R10 8thread compared to 1thread show an improvement of something like 4.2x

 

I will continue to stick to 25W Core Duo, thank you. Maybe they can come up with a core duo that has HT and still has the 25W TDP - it is likely if they move to 32nm.

The the question is... will we be able to mod the M570TU to the W870 .

 

I'm pretty sure Clarksfield is based on the Core i5. Correct.

 

Hey Kevin_Jack2.0.

According to Anandtech Core i5 is not an official name yet! And even if and when it becomes so, it will be for the desktop LGA-1156 Lynnfield processor which according to Wiki and the running press will be out Q3/Q4 this year alongside the mobile mPGA-989 Clarksfield processor (married to the Calpella chipset also due out this year).

Anyway that is how I have interpreted all the writing on the net these past few month on the topic.

All the best
Frans

 

why dont they just make higher clocked dual cores too?

 

psh, why work with old technology... I'd like to see some 4.0ghz core2quads

 

so many programs dont utilize 4 cores anyway, why would we make a 8 core i7 when most dont even use 4?

 

I think that won't stay true for long, so they go the innovative way.

 

This has been said for a while now and as it turns out it just isn't so. Indeed multi-threading is the future but is not that close as you may think.

As I have read on numerous sources around the web and as it turns out, programming applications to be multi-threaded is quite difficult and takes some time. Furthermore, making an application take advantage of multi-threading is one thing, optimizing it is to take FULL ADVANTAGE another. You can get an application which uses multi-threading but it will not be able to use it fully and this is actually the case with most multi-threaded applications. In time programmers, especially those have the time and money will be forced to implement multi-threading but for most it is still a slow process.

So bottom line is, multi-threading is nice and will be a great step forward, but just not yet. More likely in an year, maybe two. By which time many may have already changed their laptops.

Personally I am looking forward towards the future 32nm CPUs.

 

Answering a question with another - haven't you noticed how clock speeds don't multiply anymore? Unfortunately verging the 4ghz threshold is a limitation to manufacturers at the moment. Up untill several years ago CPU power was doubling over the years until they reached that point and figured that cooling systems just could provided the speed to heat CPU's of around 4Ghz+ down fast enough.

This is why we're getting other innovations in cpu tech such as multiple cores, to counter this effect. Too bad they can't find an alloy which would do the job without heating up so easily. I also wonder if we'll ever hit a barrier with multiple cores in a similar way...

 

Yes they will . It's a physical limitation, even if they use gold ->the highest conductive material<- they would still be limited to somewhere around 4 Ghz if I recall correctly. The same will happen to multicores.

This is why everyone is running to get the smallest manufacturing process so they can squeeze in as many cores as possible. I heard they want to hit 22nm by end of 2011. I would also expect to increase the CPU size itself.

 

It's just how the cycle goes. Hardware starts out big, then companies strive to make it smaller. Then they make a new, better technology that's big again, and then they strive to make it smaller.

While they're working on making it smaller someone else is inviting a newer technology, and so forth and so on...

 

Thanks for confirming my suspicions on this one.

Getting back on topic, I'm a fan of the new style of chassis which is defintely an improvement (aesthetically) over the it's predecessor. Still, M980NU owners get the best overall deal in the 17"+ arena out of these, even without looking at the hardware.

 

Wait, in the picture that shows the hardware components, there are 8 x 1.3 ghz processor's indicated, assumable 1 for each thread, so does this mean the total processing power translates to 8 x 1.3 ghz? or is it still 4 x 1.3 ghz?

 

Nah, they'll just find a way around it. They always do and always will.
Source

 

Thanx Cookie. I didn't know that. Hmm, so they finally managed to find that super-conductive material . Nice.

Ever since the1980s they already knew that 3.9-4.5 Ghz should be the CPU limit. Electrons just can't run faster in current materials.

By the way. One way to make the CPU run faster is by cooling it down as in, freezing it. Metals at temperatures below -200C become become super-conductive and this allows for higher frequencies to be reached with ease. This is how those guys poring liquid nitrogen over CPUs get frequencies of over 7 GHz or even more. The quest has been for many years to find a material that allows this without having to freeze it.

 

8 x 1.3 is the best case scenario, yes.

 

reading this thread makes me dont wanna upgrade my laptop in the future.
even there are 8 cores but most of my apps doent support multicore CPU.

 

Yeap, I have the same feeling haquocdung.
It will be worth it if CPUs have multithreading and high-clocks as well at an affordable price point, just like the i7 minus the price . But for laptops this just isn't the case yet.

 

So how much do you think it would cost to have dell switch out my Motherboard and CPU when the I7's come out?

 

Probably a lot or else they won't do it. Why not just do it yourself? Save yourself some cash..