Clevo control center and fans management

Hey guys i have a topic for you if you were so keen to help.
I own a p775dm3-g gtx1700 i7 7700, i just got it last week.
all drivers and such are up to date

I noticed that when i leave the fans speed to " auto " on the clevo CC, i can reach kind of high temperatures on very stressfull games like BF1 and ghost recon wildlands , like around 84-85 peaking to 90..it's been told to me it's ok on games like that but STILL.. today i made an experiment and i set the fans speed to " custom " and that was the preset that would push the fans max speed when it reaches 80 celsius.
I tried to play my games with this preset custom and the fans would do much more noise but would lower the temp MUCH more as well like it would NEVER go over 80, it would stay around 78 peaking to 80, it's almost a loss of 10 degrees! why is this? is this clevo management bugged to not properly activate fans as it should?
shall i just play my heavy game sessions with the custom fans speed preset?

thanks so much for your help!

 

Unsure if this works for the latest refresh but you can try unlocking the overclock fan profile. See here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0-owners-lounge.776183/page-388#post-10267591

Otherwise I believe you need a modded Prema BIOS or Intel XTU installed for it to unlock in CCC.

 

I have the overclock fan profile in my CC but that gets to work only when i activate the gpu overclock.. anyway can you explain why on automatic it seems to happen this while on costum I have these better results?

 

That's odd that it only works when the GPU is overclocked. Mine works no matter what my CPU or GPU is clocked at.
Custom is probably better than Auto as I assume with Auto Clevo went for quiet over best thermals.
In my experience Auto will only ever go to 80% fan speed whereas the Overclock profile will go to 100% fan speed.
You can activate max fans with the fn+1 button combination if you need to on the fly. It will revert back to auto rather than custom when turned off however.

 

The fan ramp up is too slow and speeds are too low on the Automatic profile. It should be renamed Quiet. I quickly found out if I gamed on it, things would heat up and I'd get black screen crash before the fan speed caught up

I use Overclock and it's the best option. Keeps temps low which is my aim and at idle it's still quiet. Best temps of course are on Maximum but it's overkill I only use it on benching and stress testing

Custom is ok but it's obvious Clevo spent all of 2 seconds there, a lo and hi threshhold and a single fan speed that applies across all fans is not design... it's neglect.

 

It's on the clevo manual the overclock thing, it says it will only activate when my gpu is overclocked from the control center.. but i never tried it out.. what happens if I set it to overclock?
so would you recommend to me to use custom? and if custom what values should I use?

this is how my fan control looks like ( it's in italian)
https://gyazo.com/1a50218b1cb77aab614f724f255713a2

i just selected overclock and it let me select it, does it mean that i have overclock function unlocked?


thanks for your help

 

Unsure how to activate the OC profile on the newer models, but if it activates from simply overclocking your GPU give it a 1Mhz OC and use the profile
As said above auto fans max 80%, overclock fans max 100%

 

https://gyazo.com/1a50218b1cb77aab614f724f255713a2

this is how my cc control looks like, i just clicked on overclock.. does it mean i have the oc profile activated?

 

Yep yep,
Looks the same as mine with OC fan profile enabled.
http://puu.sh/v1Eff/167a319071.jpg

 

But i'm not sure i have a prema bios.. i just have a santech which is a premium reseller here in italy that got their bios a little modded .. maybe it's like this prema thing.. well i'll try some game session with this overclock and see what it does.. ty for now!!

 

Unless Prema hasn't updated the partner page, they're not partnered.

Best of luck, hope the profile helps you get those temps where you want them!

 

I can use Overclock regardless of whether I'm running overclocked speeds or not. Clevo manuals are not perfect by a long stretch I think what matters is whether XTU is installed and whether CCC has the supportxtufantables variable set (perhaps ask in your owners lounge for p775 specific advice as CCC versions are usually tied to the model and my x.50 may be different from yours)

Overclock is superior because it ramps up aggressively when it detects load. It doesn't wait for the temps to get high first.

Custom? You just have to play around and find what annoys you the least...

Set the fan speed too high it may annoy you with noise.

Set fan speed too low and you won't get good enough cooling under load.

Set the temps too close together and it will turn on and off more often, that annoys some people more than noise levels alone.

Set the temp threshholds too high and other than it idling hot you may also get heat bleed through the chassis into palmrests and keyboard.

 

i just did 30 min stress game with ghost recon with the overclock profile : it seems it's working great the same way as that custom one ! temp stay around 79-80 peak to 81 .. and then when it's idling it gets quiet, seems perfect! i guess i have this overclock fan unlocked otherwise i would not getting this result right? is it something that my reseller enabled in the bios?
also i notice that sometimes there's like a second fan that activates.. maybe the gpu fan? idk.
An other thing.. it gets really noisey compared to the auto profile.. i mean when under load

 

Is it the CPU or GPU that is reaching 80C?

You could undervolt your CPU to get better temps.

 

No no the cpu.. the GPU peaks at 70



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Definitely go ahead and undervolt that CPU

 

But why ? Is 80 peak high? I mean it was peaking 90 before with the auto thing and it's been told me
That around 85 was still ok.. I thought 80 was a fresh thing for CPU under full load? I'm afraid to make less powerful my CPU becuse I play games that are a lot cpu-bottleneck like wow and others..


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Undervolt is not synonymous with downclocking.

You can undervolt at the same clocks and have zero reduction in performance with the added bonus of running cooler.

I myself have -160mV undervolt and still run perfectly fine at 4.0Ghz on all 4 cores of my 6700K.

I'm quite sure most of the NBR community undervolt on stock clocks.

 

Thank you I'll check it out if I find any guide about safely doing it for a non expert user ))


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Download ThrottleStop latest version and run it
Click FIVR
Change the dynamic CPU core offset (Adaptive)
Change the CPU cache offset to same as CPU core offset (Adaptive)

Stress test - if machine shuts down you've undervolted too much - If it remains stable you're good, try a lower voltage

I suggest for Kaby Lake starting at about -80mV and working backwards by -10mV every stress (100% CPU usage for 3-5mins) it passes.
Once you've found a stable undervolt I suggest increasing voltage again by 10 to 20mV for full 100% stability.

Do a stress before undervolting, take note of the core temps and compare it to after. Post your results

 

Double post delete please

 

Ok i followed all your instructions and unvervolted -80 , so far so good i did notice a slight drop in the temperatures but not that much though.. i'm really scared to crash my machine.. how can i know a safe value to push the undervolt for my i7 7700 ( desktop version) ? an other thing, does throttlestop need to be always opened for the undervolt to be effective? because I always have to see its icon in the application bars..
thanks so much!

 

It should save the voltages and you can exit but the application is so lightweight using less than 0.1% CPU and very little memory that there isn't a need to worry about it running in the background.
Most people set up a task scheduler to run TS on startup and forget it's even running.

A crash wont affect your machine, just unsaved work. Once you crash just dial it back 20mV and you'll be set for the life of the machine.

 

But what is it going to happen ? My pc shuts down or black screen ? Do you have a good program to recommend for CPU stress load ?


edit: i lowered to -140.. still no problem.. but i'm starting to wonder if it's actually working..i mean i'm sure throttlestop is working but the voltage more or less is the same.. and the temp too.. is it actually working or is it 140 too little? should i make a quick video to show what happens during a stress test with undervolt and a stress test without the undervolt?

 

Ok i think i found a sweet spot.. i had lowered it to -150.. did a stress test for 5 min with this program " heavyload " .. all was working.. i went to play ghost recon,.. after 15 min of game screen turned black and then right after the system rebooted.. was that a crash rigth? i set it back on 130 now and seems to be stable.. i think the only good stress tests are directly heavy games.. now my question is.. is it really helping? i really don' t notice any significant drop in the temperatures.. i don't know if it is being effective or not.. maybe for non K cpu downvolting is not useful? Idk..
thanks for your help )

 

Sorry cyclone weather here and having to rely on really bad 4G internet due to it (Cyclone Debbie kicking our asses here in Aus)

You can use TSBench within the appliation to stress test.

Unless the undervolting isn't working there should be some affect on temperature.

 

@crusher88

You should be getting a tiny reduction in temps. Just not glaringly obvious.

@Plur

Curious does that stand for Peace, Love, Unity and Respect?

 

What is a tiny reduction? Should i just record a clip for you guys? I really can't see a clear difference i don't know

 

@Plur

Curious does that stand for Peace, Love, Unity and Respect?[/QUOTE]

It sure does

 

It sure does [/QUOTE]

here's what i recorded.. should i ask for help in the throttlestop thread too? to me it looks all the same
thank you!

 

It sure does [/QUOTE]

I haven't heard that in a while

 

here's what i recorded.. should i ask for help in the throttlestop thread too? to me it looks all the same
thank you!

[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately I can't view it due to data restrictions.
Huge mix up with my fibre connection has left me without internet connection and my 4G data is getting low.

Perhaps someone else can watch and see what's going on.

 

Unfortunately I can't view it due to data restrictions.
Huge mix up with my fibre connection has left me without internet connection and my 4G data is getting low.

Perhaps someone else can watch and see what's going on.[/QUOTE]

Oh damn sorry .. I don't want to stress you .. I can try in the throttlestop thread maybe they can help me ? And ty so much for helping !!!


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@crusher88
My fail quotes have triggered a chain reaction.

Here's what you can do. Use TSBench at stock voltage, note the temp and press the CLR button, then wait 5mins for machine to revert to normal temps then do a test at the undervolted voltage.

Post back your temperatures.

 

@Plur

i just looked at my own video and actually the temps are even higher when i undervolt.. no kidding.. the max temp at stock voltage is 70, and the max temp with -130 undervolt is 72.. i had already done in the video the clear thing using hwmonitor.. i don't know

 

Compare Cpu package power in your stress testing, both with and without under voltage. Lower package power will normally provides lower max temps(lover voltage = lower power). Test with wPRIME Right click run as adm, then select 8 threads in advanced settings. Fire up 1024M stress test.
Run also CINEBENCH_R15

 

thank you! i asked in the TTT thread and apparently i was using wrong the application that's why it seemed to me it was not working.. i was doing the test at the same voltages
ty!

 

YOu can turn on the overclock prfile and just not overclock the gpu. That way you can adjust the fan. You can also do it from the control center. I stumbled across this thread trying to figure out what the 2 options to the left of the Fanspeed option in the control center are.