Clevo falling behind?

With the release of the AW M17, the Clevo D900F is no longer the king of 17 inch gaming notebooks (Due to lack of Sli Capability).

Does clevo plan to do anything about this? I know about the m980, but 18.4 inches vs 17.1 inches is a big difference for a bunch of people.

 

17 to 18.4 is not a big difference... 12 to 18.4 is a big difference.

The M980nu has been announced for months, I don't know what's up.

And here's the way I see it. Clevo has what AW does, but AW doesn't have i7. Clevo win, AW lose? That's the kind of response you were hoping for with this kind of topic, right? Seriously...

 

This is life. It is nice to support a company which makes good products, but in the same time it is ok to buy form others if they fail to meet the customers' needs. Maybe they are not falling behind, but the competition just became stronger.

PL

 

No...Clevo has not fallen behind lol. Still the first company to formally introduce both an i7 and 280m SLI laptop, as well as showing off models of Intel Clarksfield and Atom laptops. We don't even know who's the king of the gaming laptops yet, depends on the M980nu's BIOS vs the AW's somewhat confirmed 5-10% overclockability on x procs. Something tells me they might be holding back a little on the M98 and adjusting their OC'ing accordingly, or making sure their pricing is even or better then AW's, which I dunno about, it'll be razer thin.

 

Is. 10char.

 

there might be slight competition with the models but look at the broader picture >> tech support >> no comparison as sager and their OEM's win hands down

 

I going to say yes with Neroflux here. 17 inch to 18 inch is a noticable difference in footprint.

 

well what's the point in that? "formally introduce"... a fat lot that'll help customers who want a laptop now

it is, actually.

 

Clevo can number crunch even when its hibernating

AW can play games in its dreams

Both amazing machines, but clevo is by no means falling behind, and I5 will pop up soon?

 

Since when has SLI ever really worked worth a dang anyways? Paper power, you'll never use, but will pay through the nose for. In a desktop, sure ..

 

Ya gaming the Alienware will beat the D900f but, who knows how the cooling will be.

correct me if I'm wrong but, who knows?

Quad core QX9300 + 2 very powerful 280m GTX's = alot of heat in a 17in chasis.

Clevo knows this, whch is possibly the reason theirs will be in the 18in. chassis

I'm not knocking the Alienware, That will be a beast of a machine, and still might get one if i'm not satisfied with the D900f...I have 30 days no questions asked return.

But, i doubt that will happen

 

Alienwares notebook sure looks pretty ... myself I care more for the CPU in the D900F. It's not all about the graphics for me personally. My current notebook (the one in my signature) I have x2 8800s. Nice as they are, I am not blown away by SLi.

I do believe Sager will soon have a SLI model out for those inclined to that way, I dismissed it as I wanted the 975 CPU with the option to go 12GB RAM.

 

The D900F has the chance to become popular as portable working station. The processor is great and the video card , even if is only one can do lots of stuff.

PL

 

Comparing the D900f and the AW M17, is as comparing a Microwave to a Toaster. (Can't think of a better analogy.)

Plus, trying to create a thread about comparison, when neither of the AW M17 or the M980nu is out seems inpatient, inefficient, and rather pointless.

 

a 17inch notebook screen only needs so much gfx power

why do you guys demand SLi? i can understand the masculin Moterhead mentality of alot of you but what exactly do you play regularly?

Clevo is smart any way CPU is the 'real' bottle neck.

Just you wait n c..

Crytek games key funder is nvidia mark my words its all a rort!


once HL3 Dialbo 3 and SC 2 is out you will be left looking at a GPU in device manager that you just want to yank out and pawn for some cpu clocks. (or if your curently playing any MMO for that matter) cpu the underated king of real substained gaming experences.

Fact is Clevo will have the next generation of GPUs (or what ever the next big jump is) paired with a i7 procesor long before Dell/alienware.

Atm its just midterm price/configeration sqwabbles.. what exactly is there to play on a high end pc atm? hardwaresales are loooow

 

Also remember this is Dell. They nursed the aging M1730 to its death last month on the 8700s and 8800s, and 1st gen Penryns. It was about time they came up with some "bleeding edge" tech (Montevina came out last summer...) Do you really expect them to keep the M17x updated when Clarksfield and GT300 is out? I wouldn't, lol.

 

Which is precisely why the thread will eventually get to be pages and pages long - it's like asking whether Superman would beat Batman in a fight, or the other way 'round.

 

Wait, so who's Batman and who is Superman in this scenario?

P.S. Superman no brainer!

 

Unless you rock a suit with kryptonite, which the Dark Knight did and beat the snot out of Superman.

 

lol, well this thread does reek with fanboy-ism, so I do believe your dead on.

 

Agreed

10 Char.

 

Not at all. See the NP9280 and the W870CU.

 

Well 18.4" -> 17" is 1.4".
17" -> 15.4" is 1.6"


Having owned many laptops (Still have work issued M4400, W90Vp, and just sold my Whitebook) There is a definite difference between a 17" chassis and an 18.4" chassis. I'm talking the thick/dense gaming notebooks or the 9262/9280's of the world.

Something like my old HDX18t was 18.4" but was much thinner and lighter than my W90Vp, but then again it only had a 9600GT under the hood.

 

Cheaters never prosper!

Batman has to come out of that suit at some point!

I mean I know the computer is going to be a beast...but I don't care about paying 1800 - 3000 for a MacBook Air. Don't need to ship my computer in an envelope...if it has to be 2 or 2 1/2 inches thick (for greater cooling) so be it.

I'd rather have that, than melted hunk of a paper weight.

 

Alienwares notebook has an open bottom to let more air in to cool it. with a good cooler, the temps should go down greatly. clevo, like any other company is watching and will make changes to its products to meet the needs of its customers or they will fall behind.

 

With the pictures of the M17x. The two grapics cards are on the side of the computer. One near the Esc key and one near the Keypad on the sides of the computer and the cpu and intergraded grapics card is in the center. With the two hard drives.

My sig show a M17x but it is the Frist Generation not the new one. The one main Differnce between the two Laptops is The vents on mine are on top and bottem of the laptop and the fan are on top of the gpu facing up. So you can put your hand above the key pad and feel the air intake.

Bad part is you see alot of dust this way.

 

what is the W870CU?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=387411

It's the M860ETU's successor with Clarkfield. Clevo is ahead of the game...

 

Clevo is always ahead of the tech game, I just wish for once they were ahead of the style game, I'm so tired of their thoughtless and over used laptop styles, although I must say their M980NU is a half decent and positive start at getting up to speed in the style game, minus the keyboard being shifted off to the right like that.

 

Yeah I agree about the off center keyboard. The only thing I don't like.

 

Trust me, most OEMs can only focus on one or the other, but apparently not both, so it's better to go for performance over appearance - I know, I got suckered into buying a _Sony VAIO Z1A back in '03 because it was just waaay too sexy, but apparently all the dev $$ went into that sleek silvery case, because the hardware inside was, and still is, mediocre at best.

 

I rather my laptop be subtle and just as fast, like a BMW M3, rather than a shiny toy like a Vette. To each his own, there's a market for both, believe it or not!

 

I have to be honest I feel more uncomfortable pulling out an Alienware powerhouse at an professional event or school presentation than NP9280. Sagers' notebooks are discreet, subtle, but deadly fast.

 

And from what a read, aw support sucks @55!

I still was blown away by Clevo crunching the wprime 32 in 7 seconds

The q9000 was put to shame haha!
But never the less, still a great cpu.

I think SLI isn't big at all to date as it doesn't use 100% of both cards (forget these synth benchmarks), 1 powerful enough GPU solution should do fine.

 

AW did suck @ss big time, I heard nothing but bad things about it, Dell on the other hand, has good customer service and the best warranties in the business, AW isn't AW anymore, Dell has finally taken 100% control and AW's customer service has been assimilated by Dell's. AW also carries Dell's warranties now including Complete Care as well, so there should be some big improvements in AW systems now.

 

I also like the fact that I can pull out a Sager anywhere and it isn't flashy, just practical and fast.

 

Working mostly at my clients sites, I prefer a notebook that is allot less flashy. They don't have to know what else I can do with it ... the AW says it all. As someone else said, to each their own. I think we talking two very different notebooks, that are targeted at very different consumers.

Hell going from my D901C to my D900F they wont even notice its a new notebook! They don't need to know how I spend their money!

 

For me as long Clevo will make the portable workstations it does not fall behind anybody, but I am only one client who will buy one every 4-5 years. The gaming part is useless to me.

PL