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    Clevo p150HM Bios, KBC/EC and VBios Version.

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by rach3o, Feb 16, 2018.

  1. rach3o

    rach3o Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello Guys,

    I bought my laptop for a really high price and i want to fix it and I really need your help, i'll explain my case in details:
    I bought a clevo p150hm with gtx580m i7 - 2820qm 2.3 GHz 6 years ago form these guys: v3gamingpc.com, and now they are not responding to my msgs anymore.
    4 years later in 2016 my laptop started turning off and beeping with a black screen. so i started testing and changed a lot of things and updated the bios and the KBC/EC versions. It turned out that my VGA died. but back then i didn't know:
    when I bought the laptop it had the following versions:
    Bios Revision: 1.01.14NS1
    KBC/EC : 1.00.11SA2
    VBIOS: 70.24.26.00.01

    when i got the problem I flashed my bios and I replaced it with Clevo Bios and KBC/EC:
    Bios Revision:1.01.14
    KBC/EC :1.00.13

    Then realized that it had nothing to do with the bios... but it was too late... I already flashed it.
    Anyhow yesterday I installed a new Dell VGA GTX580M and it has a different vbios: 70.24.33.00.02
    it is working fine but when i stress test it, the temperature rises up to 89 Celsius and stay there for a while, which is too high.
    My questions:
    1- does it have something to do with the Bios and ec/kbc versions or the vbios ?
    if yes, how to proceed? i searched the forum thoroughly i found that people are saying that dell gtx580m does not work on clevo... but actually it worked.
    2- i've been searching for a bios update and I couldn't find one.
    3- were the old bios and ec versions Sager ? or were they clevo?
    4- can someone provide me with the newest version? i want to switch back to sager "if they were sager" and i will do it cautiously so i wont brick my laptop (i wont restart after flashing)
    5- after installing the new VGA should i flash it with the old VBIOS also?

    My current Setting is the following:
    Bios Revision:1.01.14
    KBC/EC :1.00.13
    vbios: 70.24.33.00.02

    i think the fan speed isn't reaching its maximum...
    and while working on the laptop the fan speed go louder and then go back suddenly without me even playing or doing anything heavy
    keeping in mind i changed thermal paste and installed arctic silver 5.

    Help Guys i really appreciate any help.
     
  2. Danishblunt

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    Alright I'll be your savior.

    Sell the GTX 580m as soon as you possibly can. Fermi cards are ticking timebombs, they die left and right. Get a GTX 680M instead.
    The temperatures have nothing to do with your BIOS, it's just typical Clevo, terrible heatsinks. Just look for P150 heatsink mods. Every P15x model has the same heatsink as you do. You can basicially apply all of the mods made on those garbage heatsinks.
     
  3. rach3o

    rach3o Notebook Enthusiast

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    OMG I bought it Just yesterday, but the old gtx580m survived 5 years before it broke down, and when stress testing it it wasnt reaching these high temperatures. what can i do with my current situation?
     
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    If it isn't shipped yet, tell the guy that u didn't want it and then find a GTX 680M.
    Otherwise beg for mercy that the seller has return policy. If not, resell it and get a 680M. I would advise not to go for fermi cards in this day and age.
     
  5. rach3o

    rach3o Notebook Enthusiast

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    what do you mean by fermi cards can you please explain? i meant i bought it a while ago and received it yesterday XD.
    and if i got the 680 i would be having the same bad heatsink problem no?
     
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    Fermi cards are basicialy GTX 4xx/5xx cards. There are few exceptions such as the GTX 670M which is also fermi, so stay away from that card as well.
     
  7. rach3o

    rach3o Notebook Enthusiast

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    and if i got the 680 i would be having the same bad heatsink problem no?
     
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    rach3o Notebook Enthusiast

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    okay cool ill check those, but i want to ask you something, where can i find the newest modded bios by prema for my machine?
    and do i change my vbios to the old one?
     
  10. Danishblunt

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    Only when you ask Prema politely. His mods are now private.
     
  11. rach3o

    rach3o Notebook Enthusiast

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    @Prema I ask you, with Utmost respect and politeness can you please check my Post and guide me what to do and what are the solutions for my problem?
     
  12. Danishblunt

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    I'm just going to point this out, if you install Premamod and a vBios that unlocks your card, you're going to have a much bigger heat problem.

    SO before even considering Premamod and such, you may want to mod your heatsink first.
     
  13. rach3o

    rach3o Notebook Enthusiast

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    i guess the premamod for the bios and the vbios will for sure manipulate the fan speed (that is low now i think) don't you think it will help with the fan speed?? and for sure i will fix the heating problems just like in the guide you game me the link to when i get home....
    btw sorry for forgetting to thank you again and again
     
  14. Danishblunt

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    premamod does indeed have fan profiles will be able to make the fans faster, however since the heat problems are a contact issue, you will only get a vastly louder notebook, temps will still be way to high.
     
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    rach3o Notebook Enthusiast

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    i contacted Sager guys and told them about my case and they sent me their bios and ec :
    so do i switch from those:
    Bios Revision:1.01.14
    KBC/EC :1.00.13
    to those:
    Bios Revision: 1.01.14NS1
    KBC/EC : 1.00.11SA2

    ???
    anyone got a better prema modded bios?
    i will be using the method that @Blacky mentioned:
    "If you flashed your Sager laptop with a Clevo BIOS, it is generally not recommended to go back to a Sager BIOS, since this will most likely brick your machine. This applies to models produced after 2010, like the P150HM, P170HM, etc., previous models, like the M570TU should not be affected.

    There is however a method discovered by Prema that should allow you to flash back to a Sager BIOS.

    This involves flashing both the EC and BIOS one after the other without restarting the laptop.

    This method is not without risks, and it is highly recommended to only use it if you are really desperate.

    In order to do this, you must edit the ".bat" file (this file may be: autoexe.bat, update.bat, step1.bat, ECFlash.bat, etc) that is responsible for flashing the EC and remove the
    from this line "afudos EP15HM13.sa1 /E /shutdown" - the "/shutdown" part

    Ex:
    [​IMG]

    Go into DOS and flash the EC using the new bat file.
    After the EC has been flashed, don't restart the laptop! Just go and flash the BIOS.


    You should be fine."

    any recommendation before i go with it?
     
  16. Danishblunt

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    Why do you want to flash. Are you trying to kill it? If so take a sledgehammer, it's way more effective.
     
  17. rach3o

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    isnt sager bios better than clevo's? and this method should work no?
     
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    and the fan levels are way better no?
     
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    is there not benefit in sager bios? is there any added value?
     
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    If it's anything like P170HM other than a boot logo change NO theres real benefit. The Sager P170HM did enable XTU in bios but that was the only real change. P150HM even with Sagers bios did not bring anything new to the party as far as I can remember.

    As Danish said fix the cooling first, do a repaste with a more modern paste and check the thermal pads are in the right positions for the new card (I'm not sure if the old and new cards have everything in the same place).
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2018