Clevo w/ 7970 users with NO issues. Show of hands please.

Some of these issues might not be with the card itself, and instead with the game. Some games I play that should work fine with my desktop card (GTS 250) don't work well at all, and others that should kill the card work perfectly fine.

 

1. Identify the issue you are going to test.

Use a current benchmark. If not benchmarking software than a game that has a benchmark you can run. GPU utilization is not relevant. If you are getting 1000 FPS and 1% utilization would you really care? If there is a well documented FPS problem then GPU utilization would be something you would look at at some point. Keep in mind if you do find a reproducible issue ATI isn't going to make it a priority if it is an old game or old benchmark.

2. Document and post all settings and drivers

The goal here is to share information so people can collaborate on troubleshooting. If there isn't enough documented information to compare your progress will be extremely slow.

3. Troubleshoot and document.

Try different drivers and settings and post your results. If multiple people can reproduce the same issue on current software you have a much better chance of getting ATI to look into it.

4. Be patient

New graphics cards are always going to have issues. Also keep in mind that with ATI you will usually get more bang per buck and with NVidia you will usually get better drivers. If you feel you are the kind of person that cares more about better drivers you may want to consider switching.



You have mentioned some of this yourself. I don't recall seeing you ever post a 3dmark11 score, or maybe I missed it. That sounds like an extreme amount of troubleshooting you have done. Have you contacted your reseller or run a 3dmark11 test?

 

Joe i think you just need to wait for the new drivers...

 

appreciate the lengthy reply, but i have documented pretty much everything in the 2 threads that are floating around this forum concerning this issue. I do score well in 3dmark11 (p58xx) but in some games my fps is on par with my overclocked 6970m. Anyway, this link here ( Test GeForce GTX 680M vs. Radeon HD 7970M - Notebookcheck.com Tests) confirms that clevo 7970m is underpeforming when compared to an alienware m17x with 7970m, despite the fact that Clevo is running with a faster CPU in those benchmarks. In some games m17x 7970m is 25% faster than clevo card, though review does mention that alienware has the benefit of disabling Enduro.

i guess nothing to do now but wait for better drivers...

 

yeah dude for $300 you might as well buy a nvidia gtx 670 and just build a gaming desktop.

 

Man i just got my laptop yesterday but i wasnt able to play with it until right now. I just did 3dmark benchmark test after windows update. I love this computer. I'm planning to do more stress test to see any problems. So far It's a beast!!!! and worth it!

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5684 3DMarks

 

The thing is there's no guarantee the next driver will give any performance boost or stabilizing it (current beta drivers gave minimal gains) , we might have to wait for months (right after waiting a month to get my laptop). AMD is the first to release next gen cards, but last to release stable drivers...

 

Received a P170EM with a 7970m last week, and so far so good. Everything runs well and gaming is awesome on this beast. Reading these forums has obviously helped, and I anticipate an official driver release from AMD will smooth everything out a lot more.

 

If laptop run at 60+ fps in any game so why to worry about utilizations?

 

They wanted to run ultra mode, and BF3 ultra on the HD 7970M is only around 34FPS.

 

what resellers say about this problem?

 

One reseller said there isn't an issue and another said that AMD have been informed about the problem.

 

Just out of curiosity, were those resellers PowerNotebooks and Mythlogic, respectively?

 

Correct Doc.

 

But according to notebookcheck.net thats where it should be for ultra..? What's the issue?

 

The issue is that its not playable, coz sometimes it stays in the 50's and somethimes it drops to 20 , and even when you lower your settings you get the same fps -LOwer utilization = lower fps. Its just anoyng when you are in middle of a gunfight and it drops to 20 fps.. However the single player campain runs almost al the time 99% utilized, and everything maxxed i get 40-60 fps even with 4xMSAA

 

thats very curious why it works in single player but comes up short in multiplayer

have u tried throttlestop/overclocking etc?

hopefully driver fixes settle that

 

Is there some reason you believe this graphic card release will be different from every other new graphic card ATI has released? The ASUS and MSI notebooks don't even have the 7970m available yet.

 

Yes , I use trottlestop 5.00 and it actualy improved the utilization in the singleplayer- without TS, it was around 70-99 %, but it isnt working in MP. I also oc it to like 950/1350-1400 when I play Games like crysis 2 or battleifeld 3. It's not necesary in other games as they run fluently without overclock. The issue is actuly beeing discussed in this thread.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...rfperforming-low-settings-some-games-bf3.html

 

I've been saying this on every 7970m thread dude... no matter what settings its the same unstable 20-60 FPS on BF3 multiplayer, singleplayer is fine. I even overclocked at 940/1400 and its the same performance it still goes down to 20 fps at times, on the same map/server where I got 45-50 FPS nothing lower on my gtx 560m on low settings. its the 7970m with poor drivers and/or enduro...

gameplay with FPS/temp/usage%overclocked at 940/1400
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTXuujwhkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir7GT8xmPtM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir7GT8xmPtM

 

This guy has m17xr4 with 7970m, most likely disabled enduro and says he gets a stable 45-55 FPS with with v-sync.
Alienware M17x R4 - 7970M - Battlefield 3 Ultra Graphics - Multiplayer Gameplay (TDM) - YouTube

This could be proof its enduro in the clevo machines making bf3 multiplayer unstable. I contacted him and asked if he had enduro on or running only on 7970m, waiting for reply....

 

I know, I've been also following all the threads here trying to solve the problem but yeah, all we can do is just wait for propper drivers with enduro support. A lot of other games play fine but my main concern was battlefield 3 which I play the most, and wanted the extra power of 7970m for.

 

Yeah I care only on BF3 online performance, thats what I play the most. Alienware users seem to be stable on it right now with 12.5 drivers which cannot work on a clevo 7970m because it does not support enduro. So the stable performance WILL come sooner or later for us, whether amd provides enduro support or Clevo to support a Bios that will let us run only on 7970m.

 

Just wanted to add got my p150em yesterday with 7970m. No issues so far. Played portal 2 and diablo 3. Both high fps.

 

"High" FPS, lol.

 

Just chiming in, I've had my P170 w/7970m since Wednesday of last week. So far no problems what-so-ever after the first run of any game (have to set the game's performance profile to High performance after first run).

I had Sager put IC Diamond on mine and so far the highest temperature I've recorded is 82C, and I haven't noticed any frame-rate issues on any settings (even Metro 2033 at all max except for AA), but I also haven't had any fps reading programs running so that may be my rose-colored glasses.

 

enduro=auto transmission
both suck

 

thats a pretty stupid analogy as automatic transmissions actually work, make life less complicated, and since many go up to 6-7 gears now they conserve gas.

 

enduro should turn off automatically when laptop is pluged in

 

I agree with Fantomasz. If you're plugged in, why would you NOT want your big GPU running the show? Apart from maybe cooking your leg or something.

 

can we just disable internal graphic? will this help?
I don't have my clevo yet so don't know.

 

Nope. No multiplexer installed in the Clevos.

 

I've posted this link in the 7970 vs 680 review thread, but in case you didn't care about the comparison...

AMD 7970m BF3 Multiplayer test - YouTube

 

well that doesnt seem too bad but i can see at some spots where it gets annoying

 

Got mine today! And happy to say that I have no issues!
Ran Kombuster for 5 minutes never went above 81C. Played some BF3 and D3.
BF3 ran like a dream, I am getting 35-55fps(sometimes higher) in ultra in both single player and multiplayer.

The whole utilization issue as far as I know is a non-issue. I checked MSI afterburner every 15 mins or so and CPU usage was 99% most of the time (sometimes i saw high 80's or mid 90's). And my temps never went up higher than 78C while gaming.

D3 I am getting around 70-80 fps in the highest settings which is odd. But I play that w/ Vsync on anyway to avoid the ugly tearing so I get constant 60fps when on.

Also my 3dmark11 score looks to be accurate:

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor,CLEVO P170EM score: P5900 3DMarks

If you are on the fence about this card, don' be! FYI got my laptop from myth.

 

got mine in a 9170 about a month ago...zero issues as far as i can tell. chewing through everything i throw at it without any glitches.

games i play:

d3
path of exile (beta)
fallout new vegas
firefall (beta)
skyrim

all on max settings with great fps, but i am coming from a very old laptop so anything would have seemed awesome...main thing is i have had no discernible video issues so far and i have put many hours into these games.

edit: i see lots of the complaints are temp issues...with above games listed on max settings i cannot seem to get gpu temp above 68c so again no issues here

 

i have to put my hand down now

 

Mine seems to be working fine although maybe not as optimally as other's.

Ran Kombuster. No GPU temperatures or load were reading. Exited.

Switched on "high performance in CCC" for kombuster. Everything worked now.

The GPU temperature goes up to about 75 deg C in the final test, which is higher than other people's quoting at 68 deg C (this was in the 98% GPU load range).

Temperature idles around 40-44 deg C.

I ran 3dmark06, scored around 22k
3dmark11 scored 5480 or so (going by memory)

I run Folding@home and Seti@home processes off the GPU, so it probably hinders output slightly.

I'd say everything appears to be OK. Playing Alpha Protocol at max settings and it's pretty intense