Clevo with desktop CPU and Razer Core...Lack of Benchmarks?

Hey guys,

So I am really surprised as to not seeing anyone post some results regarding a Clevo P7 or P8 with desktop CPU along with a high end GPU in a core.

Linus in fact said that he did manage to get a P870DM working with the core and to be honest I expect some people to try it out at least.

Anyone heard anything?

 

Because Core is obscenely overpriced right now, and not available easily.
Keep an eye on the Sager/Clevo threads, you will see one from me in a week or 2.

 

I'm looking forward to that. If it turns out well, I may join the party once I have more cash to work with. I'm super glad you can borrow one for testing. Otherwise, it would be a risky endeavor to find out if it actually works well. I'd never buy a Core on a gamble that it would turn out to my satisfaction. You'd have to sell it used at a loss if it didn't work great.

 

Tops im willing to invest in an experiment is maybe $200-$300, if its going to be worth it. Thats why i also didnt want to buy one out right and then there is the availability.
Though selling it always nets a profit because of the availability, the only Core on eBay last week, sold for $750 + shipping. And it was a 1 month old unit.

 

Yup... like the old saying goes, " a fool and his money are soon parted" and this is very true.

The nice thing is, we've already got the best (at least for now) and there is no need to feel pressured to hurry up and do something. There is no crisis or problem that needs to be addressed. If it works it will be something super fun to play with instead of getting rid of an otherwise amazing machine. There is no need for a sense of urgency and no reason to feel compelled to hurry up and spend money on anything... neither a Razer Core, nor a Pascal GPU upgrade. There is plenty of time to save money, watch, wait and decide what the next step (if any) should be.

 

Yeap cant agree enough, no urgent need for anything. I almost Pre-Ordered one last week. But somehow convinced myself to wait.

 

What I'd like to know is about the bios Linus was able get from Sager to update to use TB for eGPU. I'm pretty sure he didn't pull a chip, flash and solder.

 

I'll see if I can get confirmation on that.

 

keeping tabs on this thread

 

We simply provided the latest firmware which we will attempt to keep up to date on our support pages. If you notice the firmware needs an update uploaded let me know and I can prod for it to be done.

We can't directly support the core as it's not our device and any changes to it are not up to ourselves.

 

I'm assuming you guys and generally manufacturers would have to support the eGPU concept in general rather than just the core.

 

It's more of following the TB3 spec with the eGPU enclosure people making sure they interface with that.

 

Can you do a few prods to see about that BIOS update Linus had? I don't think it was specifically for the core. It enabled eGPU's to function with TB3.

 

I asked him, and it was the stock TB3 firmware.

 

Really. I'm missing something here though. You had to flash and solder a chip to your machine. It wasn't plug and play was it?

 

Using a GPU over TB3 isn't that simple. Even though they will work in certain cases, just because a certain manufacture hasn't locked things off completely. They might not work properly, or you might have to jump through a lot of hoops to get it working. For example the Dell 9550, the user had to do a **** ton of stuff to get it stable.
Also TB3 standard has digital signage and licensing involved as well.

Then again,if it works, it works. I still have to look into how much of a difference using a custom BIOS and the custom TB3 firmware will help and/or improve on things. When i tried the core the firs time, i wouldn't let me power it on without the cases completely closed, which wasn't possible since my friend had the 980ti hybrid, and wouldn't let me jumper it as the Core was brand new. Right now he is waiting to get the 1080 Strix.

 

I knew about the licencing part but I didn't think it was so finacy otherwise those. Keen to see how it goes with a Strix in there.

 

Well, MSI should meet with Clevo and spread their PCIe x16 connector and generic docs for it

 

hopefully it will work with p750dm/dm2-g, desktop processor paired with desktop gpu... wew!...

 

Keep us updated! Looking forward to this too. If its not viable, i guess next up is building myself a mini itx pc! Gotta save up for a 1070 or 1080 first!

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did you test a razer core or other egpu with a clevo desktop replacement? do you have benchmarks?

i'm thinking that an old p750dm with nvidia quadro m4000 inside an egpu box could be a good solution for me
https://versus.com/en/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-vs-nvidia-quadro-m4000

 

Would be fun to have a high speed external standard.

 

@bloodhawk possibly did that...

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-g-gtx1080-tb3-hdk-pe4c-v4-1-m-2-ngff.796773/

 

a user tested p750dm with a razer core
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-egpu-n850hk1-with-tb3.801852/

but no benchmarks

 

All benchmarks over Tb3 will be the same for a given GPU, +/- 2-5% depending on the lanes available or if the TB3 implementation is limited.

 

i think that this new gecube gtx1060/1070 could be useful for these old clevo p750/770.
There aren't news about clevo quadros

 

For general use Quadros are useless and a waste of money.
They are only beneficial for certain CAD CAM application and that too only the mid to high end ones. Low end Quadros are a hardcore money grab.

 

i know
solidworks/catia/creo work better with quadros. p3000 have similar performances of gtx1060

 

What's the point of paying exorbitant prices for lower performing GPUs .. plus the mxm versions carry even more of a premium. If the work needs it then anything under the p4000 is a waste of money. Even the p4000 is only borderline justified.

 

yes, you are right! these quadro gpus are really expensive.
i know this test about quadros vs geforce
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-pascal,4572-9.html

i use these apps





a desktop p4000 costs 1000 euros and an mxm p4000 could cost the same but you need a thicker laptop. for this reason i'm watching for an egpu

 

If you try to use Quadros in an eGPU, specially a high end one, it will be bandwidth starved pretty fast.

 

this could be a problem