I looking for new laptop. Clevo x170 definitely x170km-g working with VR? I mean Pimax 5k VR. How do connect vr goggles, and working with vr?. Laptop have a mini-display port.
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There are two mini displayport ports on the back, so it'll definitely work. There's also 2 usb type c ports on the right side for headsets that use those.
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If x170km-g laptop coming with display UHD 4k 120hz and G-sync?
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It will be 60Hz at the moment.
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I have a good idea to buy screen uhd 4k 60hz and overclokcing to gain more hz only?
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The 4k panels don't tend to overclock well.
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Can i get a clevo x170km-g with a @Prema firmware in Europe ? https://clevo-computer.com/ had it?.
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Dream Machines used to be a Prema partner, but no longer are for some reason.
Because of that, there are currently no shops in the EU that offer the Clevo X170KM-G with the Premamod BIOS.
You can still get the Premamod BIOS by buying from a partner shop here in the US, or you can ask Prema himself after buying a Clevo X170KM-G from a local shop.Jaces9900 likes this. -
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As above, though the latest systems may have an agreement for exclusivity. No idea if he does but worth checking before hand with him.
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If i9 10900k support a M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4 ?.
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The X170SM-G with 10th gen Comet Lake CPUs supports 3 NVME m.2 drives and 1 SATA m.2 drive.support needed and Aiden Pearce like this. -
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It's down to where the PCI-E lanes are wired from. The original x170 they were all from the chipset (Intel did not leave much of a choice) the new one there are 4x lanes from the CPU available.
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Which processor better for a gaming(primary) in 4k UHD and adobe premiere pro? i9 10900 or i9 11900k. For a longer period of time. I Think about 10 cores for a future games.
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Since we don't have official benchmarks for the i9 11900K yet, we can't definitively answer that question yet.
Rumor has it that the performance difference is a wash. The 10900K wins sometimes in games, and the 11900K wins sometimes in games. The 11900K does have significantly higher minimum framerates (1% lows) however according to preliminary tests.Aiden Pearce likes this. -
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Also depends on how they perform at the same power limit.
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Considering that Intel's Alder Lake CPUs are supposed to be released in September, I'd strongly recommend skipping Rocket Lake and waiting for Alder Lake.
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It will be very interesting to see how long it takes until the first laptop with this socket can be purchased.
My guess is not earlier than 2022 so we would be looking at more of a 10+ month wait.Clamibot likes this. -
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We will see if people play ball with it or try and get some exemption.
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GeForce RTX 3080 Ti come an april in deskopt. If coming soon to notebook?
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The main issue is the memory bus width with the larger chips. Then you put cooling on top of that.
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When i buy a clevo x170km-g rtx 3080 with only cpu i9 11900k 8 cores. I have a bad idea and i regret then I don't wait to alder lake and buy it?
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Don't feel bad if your hardware is no longer state of the art a year from now. If the hardware you got is significantly better than what you had before, then it's worth it. What matters most is how long the hardware will last you.
For example, I got the Alienware Ranger (Alienware 17 R1/Alienware M17X R5) in my signature a few months after Skylake was released. Although the Haswell CPU in my Ranger was already 2 generations behind when I got it, it can still handle any of my workloads to this day. Although I probably won't be able to achieve 120 fps with it in newer open world games that can effectively utilize 8 CPU cores, even with a powerful enough GPU, it's had a very good run.
In short, buy what you need when you need it, and don't worry about better hardware coming out the next year. You can play the waiting game forever. Get hardware that will last you a good long while so it's a good value. Just because the hardware becomes obsolete to the market doesn't mean it'll become obsolete to you as well. -
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I still enjoy games very much my 1080 cards still
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New socket means you can upgrade if Clevo let you do that. And @Prema is still around and can make his magic. Socket 1200, DDR4 and PCIe 4.0 is yesterdays tech. And already near its end of life. Only a few months away.Last edited: Mar 31, 2021support needed, 1610ftw, Clamibot and 1 other person like this. -
I buy today this laptop from Clevo Computer. I9 11900 without k. Dealer the seller convinced me because cpu hit 95* in load.
i9 11900 65W
rtx 3080 16gb 165W
4k UHD
64 GB RAM SAMSUNG 3200Mhz
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Even if it comes in the next Clevo DTR the socket 1700 may be delayed until next year, especially in the Clevo. In fact I would be surprised about a Clevo DTR with a new platform being released so soon.
The other scenario is that it may never come because of:
MXM dying out
Clevo not releasing this kind of modular product anymore
Clevo releasing a DTR with AMD instead of Intel chipset
So hard to give any advice if people are looking for something with a certain urgency.
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I have also looked into buying x170, as I need to replace my 11 years old Clevo W870cu (keyboard stops working about every hour and laptop needs to be unplugged from power to fix it. It's likely a motherboard issue). I want again a machine that will last 10 years. Weight is not a huge problem as it would be moved around mostly in the house.
At present x170 is only offered with Ultra-HD display with meager 60Hz (newer 120Hz version of that display exists, but is not on offer). Intel Core i9-11900K is still 14nm and with Alder lake round the corner it's worth to wait. PCIe 5.0 for nvme drives would be amazing. I would even welcome Ryzen CPU in laptop but AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX with only PCIe 3.0 is a big joke. For me it will most likely be choice between MSI GT76 Titan or Clevo X170 - whoever is faster to roll out Alder lake based laptop.support needed likes this. -
I think in future to upgrade to a new motherboard and cpu in the same chasics. 6 month is too much time for me. The psyche sits down.
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6 month cycles were more of a thing 16 years ago.
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Which better Cpu for me? i9 11900f or i7 11700kf ?.
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If you want good stock performance and don't want to do any tweaking, go for the i9 11900F.
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Leaving i9 11900f beacause i think is turbo to 5.2ghz looks good and betther than i7 11700kf.
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Top bins won't mean too much under stock power limits, see the gamers nexus reviews.
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I order with i9 11900F. And I waiting for my laptop to shipped. I Buy from clevo-computer.
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Also your experience with the 11900F.
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After some research I wanted to try a system with premabios. I stayed with gen 10 but a 3xxx graphics card. I ordered from HIDevolution based on them being a prema partner and decent reviews from customers. I’m looking forward to joining the X170KM-G owners group.
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You can always go for 11th gen later if you really want.
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Are you saying that the PCI-E lanes are all wired from the chipset on the SM-G, but they are all wired from the CPU on the KM-G ? -
I see the distinction now, Full HD vs Ultra-HD.
HIDevolution lists a few versions of the X170 with a UHD panel but then don't bother listing the refresh rates. I would guess they are the 60hz panels like on the Clevo website.Last edited: Apr 17, 2021 -
I think that the X170 Thunderbolt 3 port is not full 40 gbps spec speed. It is half spec which is 20 gbps. Not that it matters that much to me.
For the cost of this device, it would be nice if it came equipped standard with a full spec thunderbolt port and a full 1080p video camera instead of the 720 camera that it comes with. And the 240hz panel also.
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Agreed that it should be faster but I guess the X170 is not really a device you would use with an eGPU which is the only application where one would regularly need more than 20 gbps.support needed likes this. -
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Just like the Ryzen desktop boards have had for some time.support needed likes this. -
So the only difference is the port type being a USB type-C instead of a Thunderbolt 2 Mini DisplayPort connector.
I wonder what other applications that thunderbolt 3 USB type-C port could be used for.
Clevo x170 working with vr ?
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