Clevo x7200 not compatible with GTX680M

... if an AMD GPU was installed originally. At least for Crossfire users.

I contacted my reseller and they told me that. You'd have to exchange the whole barebone. And they can't even do that since they no longer sell the x7200.

Bad news really

 

That is quite disappointing.

 

Huh?

Are there TWO versions of the X7200, one for AMD cards and one for nVidia??? Just like P170HM?

Never heard about it. I knew there was a newer version of it, but never read that it was to go with AMD?

However, I always wondered if that could be, because mx X7200 I got from Hawkforce who imported it from Eurocom with Xfire 6970m never run well - first it turned out I had engineering samples, but later the 6970m´s didn´t run that much better on my X7200 - I changed to SLI GTX 485m and never had any problems, so could it be I have the "nVidia" version from the beginning...???
Where did you get your X7200?

 

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I'll PM you with the whole email

 

Thanks, very interesting! +1

 

According to our data this information is not correct. There are two revisions of the X7200 mainboard, one with HDMI-in and one without and both are able to hold AMD Crossfire and NVIDIA SLI interchangeably. The only difference between the AMD and NVIDIA systems are the heatsinks and the SLI/Crossfire-Cable between the two MXM cards.

So there's no need to replace the whole barebone if you want to switch from one to the other. Heatsinks and SLI/Crossfire-Cables should be well in stock at the German Clevo service center.

 

Thanks for the info!
But does that mean GTX 680m will work in X7200? And if so, does the GTX 680m need a special heatsink or can you take the one for the GTX 485?
It´s the only option for me, because after my experience with the 6970m´s Xfire I wouldn´t buy crossfire AMD´s anymore .

 

Thanks a lot for the statement. I've sent MySN.de a PM containing the email which I was referring to in the opening post. Hopefully I was misinformed and we can actually upgrade to the GTX680M without hassle

I can only second that

 

The 680M is not officially supported in the X7200. Therefor there might be BIOS/VBIOS issues. The heatsink of the 485M and 580M should still fit because the PCB layout has not changed very much.

That's all we know right now. We don't want to test this upgrade right now. But we do have some GTX 680M in stock.

 

Why not - could be good for us, and good for you...

Any other reseller that can test it?
It´s a little hard to spend so much money on TWO of those 680m´s if they will not work properly...

 

Any news on this?

 

I don't understand why you wouldn't test it if you have the cards in stock?!

I don't know about others, but I'm not spending that kind of money to be the guinea pig!

 

They probably don't have time.. I'm sure they're trying to fill the flood of 680M orders before they do testing on old machines

Could message a few of the other resellers and see if any of them have a spare moment to test some

 

I rather think the price of the 680M keeps the "flood of orders" at a manageable level

But I really hope that someone tests it soon, shouldn't be bigger problems since its layout is almost the same and all cards (485M, 680M, 6970M) are MXM 3.0 B

 

I imagine you're right, that there are certainly less 680M orders then 7970M... Still probably dozens if not hundreds of orders for the bigger resellers. Still quite a lot lol..

 

Btw would I need a new power wire if I went for a 680M SLi, after using the 6970M's which "only" use 75-100 watt while each 680M uses ~150 under full load?

 

definitely max at 100W,since there is no 150w tdp envelope for laptops yet.

btw,the heatsink is deff compatible, hackness just used his 675m heatsink to install the 680m in his p150EM machine. thus, 485/580/675m heatsinks are compatible

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Great!!
So we just need someone to be the first one

 

Yes, maybe so, and it´s understandable, but if you´ll look one step forward, you can easily imagine this:
Reseller ist testing it for potential customer - as a service.
a) Test is positive. Potential customer will not only buy the cards, but will do business again when new laptop or anything like that is needed - a whole customer is won!
b) Test is negative. So it´s honest to tell it won´t work. No immediate business, but in the future the potential customer may get back to them, remembering them as a good and honest service company. Or he may even buy a new laptop, because he can´t uprade anyway ...

As I said before, both sides would win .
So come on resellers, do some testing ...

 

I would guess they are still filling orders for the 7970m, and then add the new 680m... they don't have time to test on older units yet. I would also guess all resellers have been working OT for several months, with all the delays and issues. Just give it a bit of time, and I agree, they would be helping not just us, but themselves by trying it. Just be patient. It will be in their best interest eventually.

 

All of the points above are valid, but sometimes time is the constraint. I don't envy what the resellers have been through in the last couple of months. But we have seen it before. It all works out and once the initial rush for the new hardware settles down, then comes the slower time, waiting for the next gen of hardware, so the only thing left is to make our older gen laptops compatible with the new upgrades. After all, that is the biggest selling point of these.

 

Im alos looking to upgrade the 460m sli to 680 4gb sli if its doable.

I was looking to sell my laptop first, to get m18x R2 with 7970 CF, but after reading the whole problems with the crossfire issues, i have decided that i'll keep the x7200 and try to upgrade to 680 sli if its possible.

Especialy since i think i can fit a SSD, a 2 TB hdd and a 1 TB hdd inside the laptop.

Now there are a few issues that need to be sorted out.

Rj Tech sells 680m 4 GB for 800 USD each

1)Do they come with FAN ?
2)If so, does the fan fit in the x7200 ? since one can select from them P150EM or P170EM. I'm thinking the fan wont fit the x7200.
3)Do i need to get a SLI cable also, or does the SLI cable from the 460m SLI ill also be compatible.

Also as a note, If mysn.de confirms the 680m to be working in the x7200(no bios issues regarding wheter or not the mainboard detects the cards), with fan and all, i will be buying from them and thats a promise. SInce i live in germany, and i also got the laptop from them as well.

 

Another neighbour, Austria here!
Seems like there are many x7200 users located in/near Germany in this thread

As for 1) and 2) rjtech states in the description "Heatsink is included" so that should be fine, as hackness wrote the 680M's heatsink is the same as the 580M/485M one.

But I too would prefer buying the cards from a more local store, and even more if I knew they are actually working in the x7200

 

I think the included heatsink is only for P150EM/ 170EM. They are totally different from the X7200 heatsinks.
I don´t know if heatsinks of GTX 460m are the same as GTX 485m, because then they should fit as stated by MySN.

 

Ah okay, good to know

 

yeah my point was that if u were already using 485/580/675m in ur x7200 then u could just reuse ur heatsinks

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Its so y not knowing for the start wheter or not it works.

In the end, one of the reasons i choose the x7200 is for the upgradeability of its components, esspecialy important was the fact that one could change the video cards.

Now im hearing all sorts of problemes. It wont be recognized by bios, it wont come with proper heatsinks, you may burn money for nothing, etc etc

Thats not what its suppose to be.
Or is it ?

 

you can upgrade to 580ms or whatever still, its not the end.

 

Too bad the 580s aren't much of an upgrade for us with the 485s. At least not for the cost.

 

I still think it will work.
If the 7970m will work, there is no reason that the GTX 680m will not work.
It will not be recognized in the BIOS, but that should be no problem as long as it doesn´t lock the enhanced graphics mode like in the M570RU back then.
When I got my X7200 with 6970m´s, the BIOS wasn´t updated to the version that "officially" supported the 6970m, and so it showed only "ATI VGA Card" in the BIOS. The cards did run and were recognized by Windows properly, though...
We only need someone to test it...

 

Here is one "funny" thing:
In the "Hardwareluxx" forum (german) the one.de support says they are testing the GTX 680m in the X7200...
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/communit...-2012-sandybridge-e-ivybridge-e-873755-6.html
Still no result, though.
BTW, they say that P270WM is delayed ´til Q4 and will work then with IB CPU´s, too.

 

Especially since it was their customer support who told me the barebone incompatibility issue only a few days earlier I'll try to reach their hardwareluxx rep to find out about the testing!

 

Wie gesagt i will want to upgrade in the future to 680m, the 4 GB variety.

Perhaps the people from mysn will be kind enough to check if it works or not in the x7200.
It is only a thing of pluging it in and seeing if the system detects it or not, i dont care if the the x7200 was not built for the 680m.

I don#t get this bullsh*t really. If a have a 5 year old desktop mainboard with pci express i can use a GTX 690 without problems.

Why these problems with the laptop motherboards ?

 

Especially since it's supposed to be an expensive motherboard, the X58.
1366 Socket, CFX & SLi ...

 

Ok guys so a german reseller is going to test the 680m in the x7200 on Saturday. They had no time last friday.

 

I have talked to rjtech (they have the 680m 4gb model on sale for 800 dollars)

They told me the 680m they sell is not compatible with the x7200 as x7200 does not support 680m (how they didnt sayd)
And furthermore, they sayd that heatsinks that allready fit the x7200, such as those for the 485m or the 580 dont fit the 680m.

And that is something i can hardly believe, unless the 680m 4 gb has a different layout.

We way for my sn to do the tests this saturday then, if that is indeed the german reseler.

 

Thats bs, about the same unqualified answer from a company as I mentioned in my opening post.
Hackness in his 675 -> 680 Thread said the 485/580/675M Heatsink fits perfectly.

Also it's not MySN as they haven't even replied to my PM's, it is one.de testing them.

Guys lets keep our fingers crossed on Saturday

 

Does it mean that one.de will sell the GTX680M in a near future?

 

Most likely. They said they would send me a PM with their price in the next two days!

 

Any verdict yet? Hope I can eventually upgrade my 485m's with 680m's

 

Any news yet ?

 

Well the One Support started testing at 10 Pm, so I guess he did not have any time to post yet. But look for yourself

Hd 7990m, gtx 680m, gtx 660m - Seite 2

 

Sad news. The One.de rep said it showed no reaction at all He's trying to get his fingers on a internal open BIOS sample, though... But I think this is pretty much the end of the road

 

That is quite depressing.

 

Indeed... but next weekend the guy is going to test it with the open BIOS, he said there might still be a chance to get it working with that one.
But I would not bet on it.

 

First: Maybe we need a second tester, just to make sure it is not something else that won´t let the X7200 boot. BTW, what does "no reaction at all" mean...? Doesn´t power on?

Second: If it´s really turning out 680m won´t work, it´s quite curious, isn´t it? P170HM boots up with no problems, but X7200 doesn´t, while X7200 take 7970m...
If that´s really a BIOS problem because of Clevos policy to lock everything, I will leave Clevo for my next notebook... definitely. Because that can´t be the way.

 

This is the answer of one.de about the opportunity to buy them a GTX680m:

"Dear Mr. ,

we are sorry to say that our notebooks don't have any upgrade kits.
So you can't upgrade the clevo P150HM with the GTX680M."

So don't expect too much about them

 

680m's work just fine in the HM line (Including the P180HM's) so IDK whats up with that.

 

Its a strange message. Are they saying that because they can't provide the upgrade it isn't possible? Are they on another planet or something.

 

I do hope theyre wrong
I dont want to have the 7970 CF as the only solution, the way things are with the drivers at present.