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    Clevo, Sager or Xotic. Who picks the hard drives?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by carguy84, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. carguy84

    carguy84 Newbie

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    Who is to blame for using possibly the slowest hard drives out there? While I've been extremely happy with my laptop in all other aspects, the hard drive performance is a joke on a $3000 performance laptop. I thought at first it must be normal for these hard drives to write at 16MB/s....until my Hitatchi Travelstar 7k200 200GB arrived from Newegg today... 58MB/s write speed.

    How ridiculous is it to spend so much money on a laptop, to not get the fastest, most basic component? Had I known the hard drive was going to be so slow, I would have saved my money and not ordered one with my laptop.

    If you're wondering, the drive I got with my laptop was the 200GB, 7200RPM "upgrade" - the Seagate ST9200420ASG. If you own this hard drive, do yourself a huge favor and try the 7k200.

    Anyone want the Seagate?

    Chip-
     
  2. theorist

    theorist Notebook Consultant

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    i own the seagate too... i got the exact same one. i thought i had the fastest hd on the market for notebook 200gb. darn.
     
  3. masterbw

    masterbw Notebook Evangelist

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    Jeez, I thought Seagate is pretty much and plus that attractive 5-year warranty. Actually Seagate is a decent brand with moderate performance.

    By the way, Clevo only sells the barebone chassis, while Sager also sells barebone, but they also sell the complete system with the drive of their choice, and it's the same for other resellers.
     
  4. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    You can specifically choose which ever HDD you want (brand, size, speed)
     
  5. Kyprus

    Kyprus Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a seagate 160GB 7200.2 and its great. Here's the HD Tune screen shot.

    [​IMG]

    Maybe you got a defective drive.
     
  6. Derq

    Derq Notebook Evangelist

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    weird stuff :S
     
  7. carguy84

    carguy84 Newbie

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    Hey Kyprus, I'll try that tool and report back what it shows.
     
  8. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

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    On my 200GB 16MB cache Hitachi HDD:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    So far I´m very happy with the overall performance of the disk.

    ;)
     
  9. masterbw

    masterbw Notebook Evangelist

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    Very nice speed.
     
  10. By ToR

    By ToR Notebook Evangelist

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    Seadate 7200.2 are great drives...16MB/s (asuming average here) is not normal, there is something misconfigured or you got a defective one...for sure.
    My seagate 7200.1 gets around 40MB/s average speed, and it's supposed to be little slower than yours.
    Did you check with your reseller before buying the new one?
    Check Tomshardware charts for 2,5" HHDs to get an idea of how it should perform:
    http://www23.tomshardware.com/storage25.html?modelx=33&model1=772&model2=427&chart=145
    not the same model but close enough.
     
  11. wickeddeus

    wickeddeus Notebook Geek

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    I would check to make sure you have the latest drivers for them.
     
  12. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Sager has recently noticed and verified that some of their Seagate Hard Disk Drive shipments came in with a different jumper setting on them, which may be preventing optimal performance.

    Please Review Page 20 section 3.2, and remove the jumper if it exists in order to enable the SATAII functionality of the drive is the Sager NP926x, NP579x, NP2090, and NP2070 laptops.

    Sager will double check all Drive configurations before shipment starting 10/19/2007.
     
  13. nunodg

    nunodg Newbie

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    I've already noticed this problem in my Clevo D901C with two Seagate 160Gb 7200.2 disks in RAID 0. The HD write speed was very low. I've done some tests and found that it was related to high disk temperature.
    In my tests, the jumper was removed.
    Look at http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2423264.

    Nuno
     
  14. carguy84

    carguy84 Newbie

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    My jumper was on my Seagate drive. I've already removed it from my laptop, I'll take off the jumper and throw it back in and see if that fixes the problem. Thanks for the link, Justin!
     
  15. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    No problem Carguy :)

    Let us know how it all works out.....
     
  16. theorist

    theorist Notebook Consultant

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    hi guys. okay i DID have the jumper on mine.

    i did hdtune twice. once before the jumper and once after the jumper was removed.

    i have a 200 gb seagate momentus 7200 rpm.
     

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  17. Audigy

    Audigy Notebook Evangelist

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    Humm a little lower performance as expected on an 200GB 7200rpm drive(2 plates 100GB each).

    The latencies are somewhat higher than usual and the graphic shows lots of spikes, showing some problems to maintain a constant speed.

    There is another problem that is causing that... maybe the bios is not recognizing the correct hdd speed, or the buffer it´s not active on Device´s Manager...
     
  18. theorist

    theorist Notebook Consultant

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    okay... now please take a look here. i did a completely fresh format. then used hdtune immediately. this is what i have now.

    is this more consistent with a healthy hd?

    also, why does the graph go DOWNWARD?
     

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  19. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Because at first it starts to take the test from the center of the platter. After it moves away from the middle of the platter (inside -> outside so to speak) the reading head needs to move more and it takes more time to perform a complete circular move. Get it (not quite in a completely logical English, sorry)?
     
  20. hanko panko

    hanko panko Notebook Evangelist

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    Thx Justin.

    Sagernotebook did not remove the jumper on my Seagate ST9200420 AS. I did. It should run faster now.
     
  21. p_boucher

    p_boucher Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Hey guys, bought a Seagate from an online reseller (not as an upgrade from a clevo reseller).

    I've always loved how Seagate drive sounded (well, the absence of sound lol). I had trouble with all other drives brand BUT the seagates. They are for me very reliable. I bought the 160bg because well the 200 was out the week after - darn.

    Anyway, my drive performances are in line with most performers:
    [​IMG]
     
  22. theorist

    theorist Notebook Consultant

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    mate, thank you for this.
     
  23. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    ill be dropping in a hitachi 7k00 tomm. the wife will get my wd scorpio.. lol..