Comparison m9750 vs Sager 5790 V

Wow - So I'm new to the whole ODM thing... I'm upgrading to a new laptop from my zd 8000 and wanted something easily upgradeable in the future. My first thought was an alienware - and while they definitely have a major "cool factor" price wise I'm not sure I'm getting that much... For instance...

Sager 5790-V Intel® Centrino® Duo "Santa Rosa" Gaming Notebook Qty: 1
17" WUXGA Super Clear Glossy Display w/ Wide Viewing Angle (1920 x 1200) Qty: 1
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7300 | 4MB Cache | 2.0GHz | 800MHz FSB Qty: 1
Arctic Silver 5 High Performance Thermal Compound Qty: 1
2GB DDR2 667MHz 2 x 1024MB Qty: 1
Nvidia GeForce Go 7950 GTX PCI Express 16X w/ 512MB GDDR3 Qty: 1
160GB | 7200 RPM | SATA-300 HDD Qty: 1
8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL MULTI DRIVE W/ SOFTWARE Qty: 1
Built-in Multi-Region TV-Tuner w/ MCE Remote (Vista Home Premium or Ultimate Only) Qty: 1
4-in-1 Memory Card Reader (MS/MSPRO/SD/MMC) Qty: 1
Integrated 56K v.90 Internal Modem Qty: 1
Intel PRO/Wireless 4965AGN / 802.11N Qty: 1
10/100/1000 Mbps Fast Ethernet Qty: 1
Smart Li-Ion Battery Pack for 5790 Qty: 1
Free Notebook Carrying Case Qty: 1
No Office Software Qty: 1
Built-In Bluetooth Module Qty: 1
Sager 1 Year Warranty, Lifetime Tech Support Qty: 1
(No Accidental Protection Policy) Qty: 1

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[1] Area-51® m9750

Video/Graphics Card: 512MB NVidia® GeForce™ Go 7950 GTX
Chassis: 17" WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD - Stealth Black
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7200 2.0GHz 4MB Cache 667MHz FSB
Memory: 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 667MHz - 2 x 512MB
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
Tuners and Remotes: Without Media Center Remote Control or TV Tuner
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 100GB Serial ATA 1.5Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/ NCQ & 8MB Cache
Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 8x Dual Layer CD-RW/DVD±RW Burner w/ LightScribe Technology - View Demo
Wireless Network Card: Internal Intel® PRO Wireless 3945 a/b/g Mini-Card
Sound Card: High-Definition Audio with surround sound
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support w/ Onsite Service
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mesh Cap
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mousepad
Alienware Extras: AlienInspection - Exclusive Integration and Inspection - $100 Value - FREE!

Sure, I'm not getting the free mousepad and alienware t-shirt, But this seems like a no brainer.

My only real issue is that I'd prefer to have the 1440x900 display. I think the higher resolution is a bit much for most applications.

 

I'd definitely recommend the 5790, and as far as the screen, I don't know where you configured that above, but with most Sager resellers (including XoticPC and PowerNotebooks) you can configure it with a WSXGA (1680x1050) screen; it's a compromise between WUXGA and WXGA.

 

Yeah - I'm really digging the 5790. Especially for the price. And the fact that I wouldn't be charged tax or shipping. I just wish they'd do something about that damn orange stripe - Its ugly!

I've explored a couple other resellers - I've looking at the Eurocom Website right now. It looks like some do have the lower resolution screen.


Are all of the 5790/m570Ru's Santa Rosa based?

 

It doesn't look bad to me, but I have yet to see it in person.

Yes.

 

Hmmm - So I've been doing a bit more research and came across the Sager 5760. The specs look similiar..... But I Really like the case design of the 5760 with the Media Buttons in front.

It seems to to be an older model though and I'm haVing a bit of trouble finding one to configure.

 

It looks to be an end-of-life product. I don't believe you'll have an easy time finding one now... sagernotebook.com, powernotebooks.com, and xoticpc.com seem to have dropped it.

 

If you're not getting SLi then go for the Clevo

The WUXGA res is fine for me, in fact text, icons etc. is the same size as on my VAIO (1280x800 on a 13" screen), everything just appears smaller because there is SO MUCH SPACE!

 

Yeah - Im definitely not too worried about SLI

I seem to have found and been able to configure one on the Eurocom website. I'm not sure if they actually have them available.

 

The 5790 is the replacement for the 5760. They're practically the same notebook, spec-wise, except the 5790 is newer, slightly cheaper, and has Santa Rosa (800 MHz frontside bus, Wireless-N, etc.). It also has better video card upgrading opportunities since it has the new MXM-IV slot.

Even though I've recently ordered a 5790, I do agree that the 5760 looks better. I thought the orange stripe looked pretty hideous at first too, but it's grown on me over time. I also really like the brushed metal lid of the 5790, so it's not all bad.

 

I think its more than the case design. The front Audio DJ controls seem like a pretty nitfy feature. Before I decided to get a "real" laptop I was considering teh HP dv9500t because of the quickplay feature.

I didn't realize the 5760 would have issues with upgrading video - I'm guessing that means that there's no possiblity for upgrading to a DX10 card down the road.

 

Its not a problem with the Sager 5760 (Clevo M570U) having with upgrading the videocard.... more than its the previous generation notebook.

The Clevo M570U is still considered one of the best 17" gaming notebooks.

Its using a Napa platform, which tops the RAM out at 3gigs and uses previous Merom Socket M Core 2 Duo's. And its got the previous Clevo videocard module design, which has recently switched to the standard MXM design in the new models (M570RU and D900C).

The notebook is currently being phased out with great prices... until the last units are sold.

 

and the last place i saw a retailer configure a 5760 with the 7950 GTX gpu (as opposed to the Quadro, which Sager for some reason switched to) was pctorque.com

i know for sure that prostar dropped their 5760 model, guy over the phone said the 5790 was taking its place.

 

The main reason for the Sager 5760 (M570U) has the Quadro 2500M [equivalant of its Geforce 7900GTX brother] is that:
- they (Clevo) are extremely low in stock of the previous 7950GTX videocard modules

But the system itself, with the Quadro 2500M is still the best bang for the buck 17" media workstation, as well as a gaming beast.... its just the future upgrades for it stops at the 7950GTX (old module)

 

So do you know where it is possible to buy this particular model? The only place I've seen it with reasonable pricing is Eurocom - I've enabled them to make sure its in stock and should hopefully hear back from them in the next couple days.

I've also ran across a few other resellers - velocity microworks, extreme, etc but know nothing about these companies - and their prices seemed horribly inflated - starting at greater than 2500.

 

Your best chance is to contact "the big Clevo 3" of North America:
- Sager (as well as their resellers)
- Pro-Star/M-Tech
- Eurocom

I know Sager is still selling them... look at Powernotebooks' and XoticPC's sites.

Eurocom still sells them, but you need to contact them to bring down the price... yes, you can haggle with them

Pro-Star & M-Tech might also have some in stock or on order if you contact them to ask.

 

Thanks for all the information. I'll make a few calls Monday and see what I can do. I'm sure they'd love to get their old inventory out of the warehouse. 'll post back in a few days and see what I can come up with!