*Confirmed* Geforce GTX 560M for Sager

It's finally out on the sager's webiste and is available for NP7282, NP8150, NP8170 and NP 8130 from today. Not for S1 Special promotion offers though, enjoy

Sager website, 05/30/2011

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Forgive me for my lack of knowledge. I have no idea about the gtx 560m but i just assume it is the top of the line now, above the 485m. Am i right?

Should i delay my np8150 order and wait for the 560m?

 

No, it is not even close to the 485m. The 485m is at least twice as powerful at the 560m. The 560m just replaces the 460m...

 

Yep, NVIDIA's naming scheme bites the big one.

 

One advantage the 560M will have over the 485M is the Optimus technology for allowing longer PC usage when on battery for the Clevo W170HM
& Clevo W150HM models.

Optimus Technology

 

The 400 series has Optimus too when in a machine with an Intel IGP as the output, exactly as the 500 series does, infact the 520M, 540M and 555M are based on GF106 like the 460M.

I also wouldn't count on the 560M usurping those 3 cards in the current Optimus supporting Clevo's, the 560M is for MxM machines like the P150Hx, P170Hx.

 

Hopefully one of the resellers can confirm if the Clevo W170HM
& Clevo W150HM models support Optimus using the 560M.

 

Sorry. The only models supporting the 560M are...

X7200-NP7282
P170HM-NP8170
P150HM-NP8150
P151HM-NP8130

 

Hello Larry,

Thank you for the clarification. Can you answer if the models you listed will support Optimus technology using the 560M card?

 

They don't/won't.

 

It's not that complicated. The first number indicates the generation of the part, the other two digits represent the relative performance position within that generation. You can reasonably know that a 560 will not be faster than a 485, but you can also reasonably know that a 560 should be faster than a 460, or at least on par.

Where nVidia fumbles is sometimes they don't do anything to a part before bumping the generation number. OK so they tend to do that a lot.

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Since Sager is out of the 1920x1200 market I won't be getting anything from them regardless of the GPU.

 

Another interesting material about 560m, nice and steady boost of 10% from 460m in most game titles. And it shouldn't be much more, i guess. It's not the top of the line performance card. Check out Here and the preview of MSI GT683R
It's in german, but google chrome FTW)

 

So 16591 in 3dmark 06 and 2200 in 3dmark 11 are pretty nice scores for a midrange card and gaming niche it was created for, i must admit! Hope to see some 5k runs in 3dmark 11 OC'ed in SLI)

 

I'm sure it comes as no shock to anyone here that the 460M can run at the 560M's clocks just fine, I tried it for about an hour maxing the GPU to 100% utilization and no crash or excess temps.
I've already made a vbios mod for it for fun, not suggesting everyone overclocks especially given that the 460M is decent in it's own right already but thought I'd give that mention.

 

How do you explain the 3 or 4 cards that share the name GT 555M?

 

So the true successor to the GTX485 would be something like a GTX585.

Thanks for clarifying this!

 

Only toshiba's Qosmio x770 and Alienware Mx17/18 will support optimus.

 

I don't understand the question. What do you mean?

Yes, it would.

 

I'm sure I also wouldn't be shocked if the 560m overclocks as well as the 460m.

 

Because they're GT and not GTX...

 

There's 3 or 4 mobile cards, of varying performance levels, in use by different notebook manufacturers that carry the same Nvidia name, GT 555M.

The GT 555M is the monkey wrench in your explanation of how Nvidia's naming scheme is not borked, and how a consumer can reasonably tell where a card's performance places based on it's model number.

 

Not at all. I see you didn't read my post. The GT series is completely different than the GTX series.

 

Your post was meaningless so I ignored it. If the GT had it's own special set of naming rules that were different from GTX it would make Nvidia's scheme even more confusing not less.

 

The real question now is how far the 560M will overclock in it's own right. If the 460M can easily go from 675MHz to over 800MHz (1600 Shader), can the 560M also go 125MHz faster? If the 560 could also overclock by the same margin, it will be a healthy 20% faster than a stock 460M.

I'm going to hazard a guess that memory clocks will have the same range on both cards.

I'm also curious about temperature and power consumption although the 560M does have a higher TDP than the 460M.

 

I'm curious to see if thats the case too, a 560M owner will have to be coaxed to push the clocks for our own curiosity.

The point I was driving at with my post about overclocking the 460M is just that it can at least match the stock 560M clocks with ease though I figure the 560M has potential for a higher ceiling than the 460M, it'll definitely be interesting to see if it does.

 

When in doubt, go to Nvidia's website to get the product overview.

GeForce Graphics Processors

 

Those are only two of the GT 555M.

Absent from Nvidia's site are the 128-bit DDR3 GT 555M that Sager uses and the 144 core/128-bit GDDR5 GT 555M that was spotted in the MSI GX 780.

 

My buddy just ordered the sager 8130 with the 560m and is awaiting the laptop now. Once he gets it, I'm sure I can coax him into getting some info about how high the card can go. Time will tell!