Considering np9262 but...

Hi all, I've been lurking around these forums doing research on my next laptop purchase and want it to be as future-proof as possible. I think that since this laptop supports quad-core I should be pretty set.

However I see that it doesn't support DDR3 memory, only DDR2.

I wanted to know if I should still pick this laptop or go with the 8660 which I also had considered (If only it supported quad-core).

I'm not sure if the DDR3 memory is so important that I should wait for it to be supported on a quad-core laptop with a 9800 GT.

I want my laptop to be upgradable for some time, I was hoping my laptop could last me 4+ years. Anyway, before I ramble on, what do you think?

 

Welcome to the NBR forums.

we went over this already...

It does not really need to move onto DDR3 (no major difference in performance), since it still remains king of notebooks even with the new mobile platforms coming out.

It has a desktop Intel P965 chipset:

"Delivers up to 12.8 GB/s of bandwidth and 8 GB memory addressability" -Intel.com

And the Clevo D901C can already support DDR2-800.

 

I heard of rumours that the 9262 will get a mobo update to support DDR3. In any case, like Gophn said, it's not a huge deal, DDR2 is perfectly fine, its certainly not a bottleneck, by far (probably wont be for atleast 5+ years)

 

It would be good enough for a long time to come.

 

The 9262 with DDR2 is amazing fast already.

EDIT:

BUY FROM XOTIC PC

 

It seems like you think ddr3 is going to give you crazy improvements to performance compared to ddr2. Laptop wise, its about a 400mhz difference, but the 9262 is a desktop mobo so it can support beyond 800mhz, I think. In the end, its not going to make that big of a difference. If I didn't care that much about baterylife and mobility, I would have gotten one a long time ago. So stop waiting and buy it.

 

When do you guys think this mobo update will arrive? I'm not sure if I should wait for it, since I'm already waiting for the Intel price drops to reflect on Xoticpc.

Also, I wanted to ask if moving this heavy laptop a lot decreases it's life or is a bad idea. I'm a college student and wouldn't really use it for class but would use it for reasearch or whatever around campus. Also I don't care about the weight, power interests me more.

 

There are no plans for a new motherboard.... since its not needed.

 

The odds of there being any sort of a motherboard revision are very small. As this system stands, it won't need revising until the release of the Nehalem-generation desktop processors, at which point it's more likely than not that there will simply be an entirely new system released.

 

why not look at the 570TU? DDR3, Quad core (Sept/Oct) Montevina 1066FSB yada yada yada.....

 

Why not? Three hard drives, dual GPU in SLi, desktop processors, ...

 

//well he can't have everything in life

 

//well he can't have everything in life

 

True, thank you all for the advice and opinions. They are greatly appreciated. One last question if it can be answered. Between the 9262 and the 8660, which do you think would last me longer (laptop life)???

 

NP9262 - in terms of keeping up with the pack for a longer period of time

 

Then again, its been on top for quite a long time without any major changes. But as laptop technology moves more towards mobility and power saving, its probably is going to be on top a bit longer without something taking its throne.

 

Indeed it has, for very good reason, and it will most likely continue to stay on top until the Nehalem-based desktop systems start coming out. Since that is presumably still on track for Q4 of this year, I would guess that we're probably looking at a Nehalem-based replacement for the venerable D901C sometime early next year (let's say first half of the year just to hedge our bets ). Given that, I would not seriously expect Clevo to release another update/version of the D901C.

 

so you mean that Nahalem processor will bring mobile processor having the same power performance with desktop processor, right?
I am really want a Sager Np9262(a laptop with extreme quality build&desktop processor) but since I dont need it right away, I will wait for the next generation of it. hope it's still the king of all notebook.

 

No, the 9262 is built on desktop hardware (mobo, cpu, but with mobile gpu) The Nahalem for the desktop is going to be quite different from the laptop version just like the differences in penryn. But because the 9262 uses desktop cpus, it can use the much more powerful nahalem for desktop. Laptop cpus will still be weaker.

Don't wait too long or you'll start waiting for the next next gen stuff. lol.

 

No. The D901C uses desktop components, not notebook components and, at any rate will never be able to support a Nehalem-based CPU because, amongst many, many issues, Nehalem does not use the FSB, it uses a new point-to-point communication system Intel calls QuickPath. In order to get a Nehalem-class processor into the D901C, you'd need a completely redesigned motherboard, which basically means that you need a new system. The D901C will therefore not be revised to accept Nehalem-class CPUs but will instead be replaced with an entirely different system.

That being said, whatever the Nehalem-based successor to the D901C is like, if it's at all consistent with the D901C, it will continue to use the desktop components, not the notebook components.

I wouldn't wait for a Nehalem-based replacement for the D901C, however, unless you're willing to wait a year or so. Intel hasn't even released the first Nehalem CPUs yet, and the replacement for the D901C will most likely not go with one of the first releases, but probably one or two iterations later, once the thermal budgeting has stabilized, and the CPU's contribution has been reduced a bit.

 

thanks guy.
I already know that Nahalem is mobile processor & Sager 9262 use desktop chipset so these things will never go together.
But my point (Nahalem processor will perform as good as desktop processor) has been answers.
well, I dont need it now. but I'm in love with it so I want to purchase it when I can
thanks guys.

 

yep, desktop processors perform just as well as desktop processors.
Hope you have fun with it. Share some pics and reviews when you get it.

 

funny hahhaha