Could I upgrade a Clevo P750DM2-G/P775DM3-G with a Not-Clevo MXM Quadro P3000 card?

Hi! There aren't informations about clevo pascal quadro cards so my question is: Could I upgrade a Clevo P750DM2-G or a Clevo P775DM3-G with a Not-Clevo MXM Pascal Quadro card P3000/P4000/P5000?

At the moment there are workstations like Fujitsu Celsius H970, Dell Precision M7720, HP Zbook G4 17, Lenovo Thinkpad P71 or MSI WT73vr with these MXM Pascal Quadro P3000/P4000/P5000 cards. Why clevo doesn't have these cards?

Someone used a dell P5000 card for upgrading an Alienware 17x r4
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/quadro-p5000-with-m17x-r4.800489/
or a Precision M6700
https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1756247
https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1743402


I found these fujitsu cards. I know that these prices are totally fool.
I hope these are cheaper in the coming months

quadro P3000
https://www.kastl-gmbh.de/product_i...52854&XTCsid=325ba69f38dc803662b017c2d9b862e3

quadro p4000
https://www.kastl-gmbh.de/product_i...P4000-W--HEATS--34061682-FUJ-CP730092-XX.html

quadro p5000
https://www.kastl-gmbh.de/product_i...P5000-W--HEATS--34061681-FUJ-CP730091-XX.html



could I use fujitsu/dell/lenovo/hp/msi quadro pascal cards in a clevo?

 

Most people don't bother with Quadro's as unless there's a specific program you use that needs a Quadro they are a waste of money for the performance you get out of them

 

do you know that catia, solidworks, creo work better with quadros?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-pascal,4572-9.html








there are benchmark for a gtx980ti desktop
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-benchmarks-and-specs.169446.0.html





quadros are more stable than geforces

 

Hence my statement about unless you have a specific program that needs a Quadro. Most programs that used to state they needed a Quadro (editing, colour correction etc) no longer need them and you tend to get similar performance from the GTX 1080 for thousands of $'s less.

Would also be interesting to see what the performance is like now as that article is a year old and is based on the desktop models not the laptop ones. What you really need to find is a performance chart based on the laptop versions of the Quadro P series VS the laptop series of the GTX for those programs.

Also bear in mind that all 3 of those programs they tested with were already years old and not optimised for newer GPU's so you may find that the newer versions of the programs work much better with the GTX range

 

I use catia/solidworks
quadros pxxx mobile are too new so there aren't benchmarks at the moment

these are benchmarks for P5000/P6000 desktop
https://hothardware.com/reviews/nvidia-quadro-p6000-and-p5000-workstation-gpu-reviews?page=4





here some benchmarks for gtx1060 desktop and a comparison with m1000m/m2000m/m3000m
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-1060-Desktop-Review.169419.0.html



here some benchmarks for gtx1080 desktop and a comparison with m3000m/m5000m
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidi...sktop-Review-Pascal-has-arrived.165500.0.html


" Professional Applications
Using a consumer GPU for professional applications is tempting. The price differences to the Quadro cards are often very big, but the GeForce drivers are not certified and also pretty limited in some cases. Depending on the driver version (for notebooks in particular), the performance can fluctuate significantly. We took a "good" GTX 980 in the Schenker XMG U716 and a "bad" one in the GT72S as an example, because they differ a lot in Maya, for instance. Both cards offer a similar DirectX performance, but the different driver versions result in these big differences. By the way, the 980 SLI did not have an advantage over a single 980. The professional M5000M and even the M3000M are much faster is some tests like Siemens NX, despite the slower hardware. Still, the performance of the GTX 1080 with the driver version 368.13 was good in general."







here some benchmarks for gtx1080 mobile
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Laptop.171212.0.html

 

here a review of msi wt73vr 7rm with P5000

https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/msi-wt73vr-7rm

here some benchmarks for P5000
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-P5000.191073.0.html

 

here a benchmark for a P4000 mobile with SPECviewperf 12

 

here a benchmark for a P5000 mobile with SPECviewperf 12

 

here a review for a MSI WS63 7RK with a P3000
https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/m...mobile-workstation-nvidia-quadro-p3000-6gb/5/


here a review for a Lenovo P51
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P51-Xeon-4K-Workstation-Review.229212.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-M2200-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.210908.0.html

 

here a review of a msi ws63 with a p3000
https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-WS63-7RF-i7-7700HQ-FHD-P3000-Workstation-Review.232262.0.html

 

some news from Eurocom
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...a-precision-m7710.804833/page-3#post-10590681

did you test clevo p750dm2?

thanks for these infos
I know that MSI 16L13 uses also a MSI gtx1060 mxm 3.0b. Does P5000 work with tornado f5 ?

wow! those P2000/P3000 for tornado f5 are awesome
what about that p3000 for a p750dm?

 

you do know that DM2/3 uses a different heatsink compared to DM1 right?
Basically the problem with DM2/3 installing a standard MXM3.0a/b card is the heatsink, the positions of the screws are totally off( CPU AND GPU), you cannot install non-clevo 1060/1070/1080 cards without making a new heatsink.

 

yes, I know
do you think that a modded p750dm1 heatsink can fit in a p750dm2?

 

i have a p775dm1, i bought a p775dm3 heatsink ( easy&cheap to obtain stuff in china ) the screws are complete off, unless you have the necessary tools to solder the copper boards(not sure what they are called).

 

P751dm1


P751dm2

 

if you compare and look, the copper boards are in different positions, you would have to de-solder all of them and then rearrange.
I suggest buying a P751DM2 heatsink to modify.

 

we need to know if screws position are the same

 

The clevo 10xx series cores are in a different place so the heatsinks are different.

 

http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,346,0)SkyX9W

p3000 and p5000 are available for clevo p870dm/EUROCOM Sky X9W

 

X9W is the original P870DM...
Sadly the P870DM3 has no heatsinks available for MXM-B GPUs...

 

My bad. You are right! I fixed that post

 

could it also be that the DM2/3/KM motherboards are not designed for high power draw through MXM port?

 

Nope, not a hardware problem at all.
The DMx/KMx BIOS even have official support for GTX9xxM GPUs incl. the Notebook 980.
Early on during development they had MXM-B heatsinks but sadly they never made it into MP.

At that time they actually even had a 980 in their new MXM Pascal style format.

 

High $$$ order for 980??? Lol

 

I just edited my post to put it into a better time-line perspective. I am talking P870DM3 development stages (early 2016) before Pascal was even officially released. Back then Clevo offered 980s in new MXM Pascal format in low production volume and was ready to put it into MP if enough demand would have been there from re-seller.

 

They still draw a fair amount of power from the slot.