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    Couple of questions on NP9170

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by unpilot, May 8, 2012.

  1. unpilot

    unpilot Notebook Consultant

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    Looks Like I will pull trigger on a NP9170 soon. I am sold on the performance increase with the 7970. However I am wondering if ir is worth the extra cash to go with 1600 ram vs 1333. On Xotic I can get double the ram and stay winthin my budget if I go with the slower ram. Will it really matter in general use and also gaming?

    Second I am looking at the Intel N6235 wireless upgarde...is it really better than the standard wireless that Sager puts in?

    I am coming from a HP envy with the 5850 that gets so hot I can cook eggs on the bottun when I game. Knowing the 7970 is not out I wonder about heat when it comes out. I hope it is cooler than my 5850.

    Thanks for any input
     
  2. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Its better to have Less faster RAM then more Slower RAM as long as you have enough RAM. 8GB is typically more then most people need right even for gaming. The speed difference isnt much, about 4% increase when you go from 1333mhz to 1600mhz.
    Look at it like this. If you're using 4GB of RAM to do everything you working on, its better to have your RAM running at 1600mhz then it is 1333mhz. The reason is that extra RAM in your system isnt doing you any good if you're not using it, and out of the RAM you're are using its better to have faster.

    The upgraded wireless cards do pick up weaker signals better and hold them better so depending on where an how you use your computer wireless it can be beneficial. They can also transfer up to 300mb/s vs 150mb/s on the stock card, which wont help internet speeds but will help transfer speeds within your network.

    Sager's have really good cooling systems so overheating shouldn't be an issue, just make sure you clean it out from any accumulated dust at least every 6 months, preferably more frequently.
     
  3. b0b1man

    b0b1man Notebook Deity

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    Me too, man! AMD is on a killing spree 3 years in a row!

    Get the faster RAM, your CPU has a 1600mhz memory controller and it would be a waste to get anything slower than that. Just do it! Its not -that- much more expensive. You will have a little more speed in transcoding/rendering too!

    Yes, the Intel 6235 has bluetooth 4.0 + 2x antennae. The standart is with 1 antenna. You will get more range, better reception, higher speeds, lower latency....upgrade it man! I'd even go further - I'd get a Killer Wireless N 1103 that has 3 antennae and stellarly low ping times. But it might be overkill.
    RIght now Im using the older Intel 6230 (difference between 6230 and 6235 is that mine has Bluetooth 3.0 and the other has bluetooth 4.0) and I have perfect gaming experience with it. So, go for it, get Intel 6235!

    Heres the deal - your HP has crappy stock GPU paste and not good enough cooling system.
    Clevo is known to have WORLD-LEADING cooling and P170EM is at the peak of the best cooling available for laptops! WORLD class. Better than Alienware. Better than you and me put together.
    Trust me...you will soon forget about fried eggs and bacon on a laptop.
    Just upgrade to the IC Diamond 7 cooling paste (Xotic puts it on default I think).


    Add to my rep, please :p
     
  4. JoshM

    JoshM Notebook Enthusiast

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    What is the difference between the 6235 and 6300 cards? From what I can gather, there's increased transfer speeds, but I can't tell if it would actually help with ping/latency...
     
  5. jaug1337

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    Rather simple actually. Let me explain briefly.

    The 6300 is a triple-stream (3x3 antennas) without Bluetooth.
    It supports faster speeds (if only your router does the same) it delivers premium Wi-Fi speed (up to 300 Mbps, 450 Mbps with WiFi-direct), a rather greater range.
    SOURCE: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wireless-products/centrino-ultimate-n-6300.html

    The 6235 is with Bluetooth and is a multi-stream (2x2 antennas) card.
    It has a long range, but not quite as good a latency thrown down as the 6300 has, nor the same range (the 6300 is basically tier 1).
    SOURCE: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wireless-products/centrino-advanced-n-6235.html

    People usually go for the 6300, unless Bluetooth is a choice of matter to you. The 6300 also has a very efficient range.

    I hope I helped ;)
     
  6. w3ak3stl1nk

    w3ak3stl1nk Notebook Consultant

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    Hrm... your information seems conflicting on Killer Wireless-N...

    The Killer Wireless-N 1202 high-performance, 2×2 MIMO Wi-Fi module introduces Bluetooth for the first time, providing users with the ability to play online games or stream media while simultaneously having Bluetooth connectivity, an essential feature for online gamers who use Bluetooth-enabled peripherals.

    http://www.mythlogic.com/killerwireless.php
     
  7. JoshM

    JoshM Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks, this was really helpful! I'll probably go for the 6300 since it's only $10 more than the 6235 and I never use bluetooth. I know a lot of people talk up the Killer card, but the price is just a bit much and I really don't want to deal with proprietary software cluttering the machine unless I absolutely have to.

    Thanks again!
     
  8. b0b1man

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    Wise choice for the 6300. Best range there is.