Crazy Lag 1080M Sli

Hi guys.


Got a P870TM1-G Specs are
8700k Delidded at stock clocks
2x 1080m in SLi mode
64GB Corsair RAM XMP PROFILE 3000MHz
2x Micron 1100 One runs Win 10 both are 2TB
2x Samusng Pros in raid 0 Latest firmware 4 something Holds all Games 1TB Each
512 San Disk Runs win 7 pro

I downgraded drivers and reinstalled both windows several times no go. I opened the machine and switched the cards around the pc shuts off. i figured out what card is doing it. so i tried it both out by itself and im still getting the lag on the one that doesnt shut my pc off. Now when i put both of them back and i put the one that does shut off my pc when its in the main its doesnt shut my pc offf but i still have the awful lag.Think my cards are going dead???

PS I also did try rearranging the ram to make sure i didnt have a fault stick no go. I did have page file turned off. I turned it back on the main drive and the game drives and doubled what windows recoomended and it still didnt fix it.

 

Just RMA it, you still have warranty no need for you to fiddle with it and potentially breaking your warranty.

Considering the garbage temp it probably killed some VRM or something, nothing you could fix without breaking warranty.

 

He never mentioned temperatures...

 

80c-90c max. ( WHEN RUNNING A GAME) other wise it stays around 35-45c .I have fujilopy extreme on both cards with thermal grizzy.

 

So similar to the founders edition desktop card then.

 

I guess im not familiar with desktop graphics temps. I know the norm for laptop specs is around 90c for 1080m when gaming

 

Which is not a good thing. 90s c on any GPU over time will kill it. There is a reason why people start to freak out at above 80c.

Also the founders edition cards were a disaster (no suprise there), normal temps for any decent GTX 1080 (EVGA etc.) stock cards is under load around late 60s to mid 70s.

basic thumbrule:
Don't play with above 85c on the GPU.80 - 85c should be the absolute max you should tolerate, anything higher is nono.

 

I was told by the company i purchased my clevo from that this was normal temps for a 1080m sli setup.

 

There is a reason why almost all clevo buyers mod their notebook right after buying it. It's a disaster out of the box.

 

I did i put the fujilopy extreme i delidded my cpu and applied liquid metal to the cpu i have prema bios i even got 3000mhz memory working without xmp.

 

I've not seen people reporting particular failures on the founders 980/1080 cards.

 

Because most if not all sat the temp limit lower in MSI afterburner.

 

Most users of the cards won't even know what MSI afterburner is let alone make changes.

Maybe tone down the hyperbole a tad going forward?

 

So you think people who spend tons of money are literally to stupid to go on google, download MSI afterburner and move a slider a bit.

Yeah no, by far the most enthusiasts know what MSI afterburner is. And know how to use it. I've yet to see a single GTX 1080 desktop user who doesn't know what MSI afterburner is and doesn't know what overclock etc. is.

You could argue that there exists a small portion of people who don't know ahout afterburner etc. But the majority does know.

People who are not interested in overclocking etc. usually buy pre build PC's with a GTX 1060 or 1070 at best because they see the "Gaming" tag on it. But then again idk what to expect coming from a guy who thinks a I7 - 8700 is a 65W TDP CPU at turbo speeds.

 

And you have never learned when the “65W TDP limit” comes into effect. Aka why Intel use PL1 and PL2 power settings for their chips (short vs. long boost)!! You have a lot to learn from @Meaker@Sager

 

Please don't put words into my mouth, just because someone is not interested in the internal workings of their machine does not make them stupid.

You keep equating enthusiasts with users, enthusiasts are the minority of even higher end gaming systems. Even then on this forum which tends to have a higher percentage of enthusiasts on it you see questions like "what program should I use to monitor my GPU?". When you throw desktop into the mix most people with a 1080 will still be regular users who had a certain budget in mind and walked into a store and got a pre-configured system or ordered one online.

Also in regards to the 8700 and power limits there has been a fair amount of discussion around the web regarding a lot of higher end Z370 boards going out of Intel spec and OEM/SFF boards now following that spec and getting different results, it always pays to read outside of the bubble of a particular site or strand of hardware to get context. As @Papusan mentioned there can also be differences in burst and sustained turbo which does still follow Intel spec.

 

guys i think i have a faulty motherboard. No way in hell both of my cards are bad. I bought new memory and swap out the sticks. I even removed every drive i had in the machine expect the windows on and still. Im gonna contact rjtech to see what they gonna do. i really should have just purchased one from @Donald@HIDevolution im such a douche trying to save cash if they dont do anything im gonna sell on ebay and buy from hid. Temps are now 80C idle on both cards put in individually

 

80C idle on both cards... Have you tested max fans to see if they work as intended? Fn+1

 

Even without fans at true idle there is no way it should be that hot. Could be a failed heatsink.

 

Unless something went really wrong with the GPUs themselves, I'd say it's lack of contact between them and the heatsink.

>top tier gaming laptop
>watercooled desktop temperatures
Pick one. Here are temperatures on MSI laptop - a company you look up to so much.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-G...-HD-Laptop-Review.229770.0.html#toc-emissions

 

Yes sir i used hotkey and turned to max it works

 

Guy from rjtech said it might be a motherboard issue. That theres no way both cards would go wrong hes gonna let me know on monday what they gonna do. I might have to spend time without my precious laptop no worries i have a modded 8770w from hp with a 980m in it. Im thinking about modding it with a 1070m the eurocom is offering and selling the 980

 

Watercooled desktops are around 60c on stresstest.

Also the GT 80 series has indeed high temps, hence I enjoy the 73 / 75 series more. All clevos have garbage temps tho. So there is that. Again putting high end components into a laptop is idiotic in itself imo. GTX 1070 and a 7700HQ will do just fine with decent temps.

Also it's not even sagers fault, it's the notebook itself. You cannot leave it stock. Leaving a clevo notebook stock and using it is asking for trouble.

 

Is this ground hog day? I thought we did this yesterday?

 

lmao.

 

A recent video regarding MCE/CPB is worth a watch if you want to see what the impact of running intel spec is: