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    Crysis 3 on NP9370

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by [JC], Mar 2, 2013.

  1. [JC]

    [JC] Notebook Consultant

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    I've downloaded Crysis 3 to test my NP9370, specs:

    Intel i7-3840QM (2.8GHz Turbo Boost 3.8GHz, 8MB L3 Cache)
    16GB RAM 1600MHz DDR3
    2x Nvidia GeForce GTX 680M GPU With 4GB GDDR5 Video Memory (SLi)
    OCZ Vertex 4 256GB
    Seagate Momentus XT Hybrid 750GB
    Windows 8 Enterprise x64

    Unfortunately, I can't play Crysis 3 on "Very High" (highest setting), only on "High", so I'm wondering if I can overclock the notebook, is it possible? =(
     
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    really? with that setup u should be able to get playable framrates at max. settings...

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    On "high" I can play fine, smooth, totally playable, but when it comes to "ultra high", I feel a little frame drop when I'm in the middle of too much movement.
     
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    It really is a very demanting game. No single GPU can max it with 60fps i think. So probably even 2 of the best mobility GPU won't do it.
     
  5. crosslimit

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    A GTX 680 desktop gets 44 frames on very high (SMAA 1x @1080p)
    So yes you won't be able to Max out. My advice, play on high it looks awesome as well.
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

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    I've been running it on high with my overclocked card and it's very visually impressive.
     
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    Is your card a GTX 680M SLi, how did you OC that?

    I already play smoothly on High, but I want Very High! ^^
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

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    I have a single GTX680M running at 980mhz core and 2700mhz memory.

    Smooth on very high will likely need a very healthy overclock on the cards.
     
  9. crosslimit

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    Maker what tempos are you getting? I tried running on 980/2000 but temps are 90 degrees, not comfortable with that... Also why so high on the memory, what does it do?
     
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    it provides the gpu with.... wait for it!..... bandwidth! :D

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

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    What voltage are you running as mine is at stock voltage (my chip can pull that speed off).

    Also the memory speed helps my FPS but I have done a pencil mod to increase the voltage to it so don't expect to get that high.
     
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    Stock voltage here too and honestly I dont notice any fps gains between 2000 and 2500 which is the max possible, before the game freezes.
    Also whats a pencil mod? dou you just draw some lines on the gpu?

    jaybee, I have no clue how a gpu works so i dont know what you mean by more bandwith :D
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

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    It's changing the value of one of the resistors in the divider the controller uses to work out which memory voltage to set by drawing graphite over it and using a multimeter to check it.
     
  14. jaybee83

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    @crosslimit: haha its just a lil inside joke that was targeted at meaker and his monster OCed 680M :p
     
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    Can anyone indicate me a newbie tutorial for overclocking GTX 680M SLi ?
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

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    Your best bet is nvidia inspector and use the drop down menu to set both cards to the same speed.

    Also *huggles bandwidth* its ok, I have measured a direct increase in crysis 3 FPS so I know you are good :p
     
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    I put the slider like this for both GPUs:

    5At9yV9.png

    Now I can run Crysis 3 on "Ultra High" - AA Off - V-sync Off - Post-processing High - 1920x1080 Full-screen with 30~40 FPS (full action) - 40~50+ (normal action)

    Is it secure to let the settings like in the image?
     
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    sure, just keep an eye out for ur gpu temps (should be below 90C for prolonged gaming sessions) and potential artifacts indicating a too aggressive oc. otherwise u should be just fine :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Hum... Prolonged gaming is like 1~2 hours of Crysis 3 continuous?
     
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    sure :)

    10chars
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

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    Well at 90C you will just throttle and your performance will get erratic so anything below that.
     
  22. crosslimit

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    why so much oc on the memory? Id oc the core by atleast 100 and the memory 200. dont know how it is with a SLI setup though. just try it out and monitor your temps with something like MSI afterburner.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    With SLI you get much less extra memory performance than you do shader performance since identical copies of the data must be stored on both card's memory.

    Consider the 680M already has a much slower memory interface and you are trying to go through a lot of effects and pixels then adding a chunk of memory speed makes sense.
     
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    Little more tests, and the best OC at the moment:

    GPU 1 + GPU 2:

    GPU Clock: 750Mhz
    Memory: 2500Mhz

    Max Temp GPU 1: 78~85 C
    Max Temp GPU 2: 85~89 C
    >>> I'm in a tropical country, and when I was running the test, I turned off the AC just to see what would happen...

    Crysis 3 totally smoothly, even in very intense action moments...
    1920x1080 Full-screen // All settings maxed out

    I let AA off because I read a bunch of tutorials and I saw that in FullHD display (my case), it doesn't make difference, only stress even more your GPU for nothing...

    SAGER NP9370 I Love You!!!

    -----------------------------

    Little question: Why GPU 2's temperatures is always higher than GPU 1?
     
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    That's awesome! The game isn't that good unfortunately. It's like we're rendering a movie.

    To try and answer your question, it might be only the positioning of the GPU 2, or a little more dust, or it's handling more process than GPU 1.
     
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    Because the heatsink shares its cooling with the CPU.
     
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    GPU 2 will always have a higher temperature than GPU 1 because it shares the fan with the CPU.

    GPU 1 gets a fan all to itself :)
     
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    Thanks, nice information!

    On NP9370 we have 3 coolers, 2 bigger, 1 smaller, which one goes to GPU/CPU?

    Dual_GPU_9370a.jpg
     
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    i dont get it. i see 3 separate fans so why share a heatsink? doesnt make sense to me...

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  31. [JC]

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    Yeah, so do I...
     
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    I don't either. What's even more crazy is if you get a single GPU in the system you don't get that fan shown on the right in my image. So the CPU heatpipe is just floating out in space.
     
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    say what? braindead zombies design that thing? :p
     
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    Well firstly, Crysis 3 I believe will get a lot more optimized as drivers come along for it. Crytek has never been known for their uhh... optimization ability... with their engines. *cough* water tessellation map rendered in all areas in Crysis 2 DX11 *cough*
    So expect to see even better performance with later drivers. Also, if you aren't using the beta driver (or higher) that came out when Crysis 3 released, I believe Crysis 3 won't take advantage of nVidia SLI and will run on a single card. So check your drivers and even if you have the latest, later upgrades should help immensely.

    Lastly, yes why in the world does the CPU and GPU 2 share a heatsink O_O.
     
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    [JC] it's much better if you OC your cards to +135Mhz for GPU and not more than +400Mhz on the memory. 2500Mhz is way too high, i bet it throttles!

    jaybee83 it's not like they share a HS, the radiator form the CPU is located on top of the radiators of the 2ng GPU. So the slave GPU fan has to do twice as much job cooling the GPU and the part of the CPU
     
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    That's pretty nice. I see you get some random drops too with that beastly oc, I even get them on low.
    What's that on the temps, 89? And backplate off right? (Sorry can't see on mobile)

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
     
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    89-90 degrees temps, ~42fps average is the video.
     
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    My Crysis 3 on Origin runs super smooth on highest settings but every time I quit the game it freezes and stops working. Anyone have a suggestion ? No other issues than that. I tried uninstalling...re installing....Nvidia Experience settings....updated game...you name it I tried it. Spec I run is 3840 I7...2x Intel 520 in Raid0....SLI GTX680M x2....24GB RAM


    cheers
     
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    maybe try and run different gpu drivers? got the latest beta installed?
     
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    I updated the Nvidia Driver to 314.07, dropped the OC to 750/2300Mhz, upped the settings in-game and the notebook is cooler:

    AA: 0x -> TXAA High
    Anisotropic filtering: 8x -> 16x
    Post Processing: High -> Very High
    Blur: Medium -> High
    And the rest: maxed out

    Totally smoothly @ 1080p

    OMG! That's awesome...
     
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    Lack of horizontal room means the cpu fan now sits on the cpu heatsink rather than a well beside it making it more shallow and therefore not have the same airflow over the fins especially bad since this model supports 55w cpus and xtu.
     
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    First of all get rid of nvidia experience. It's crap.
    I think I have the same problem as you. Don't know for sure though, hasn't played crisis recently.
    My solution is instead of exciting the game in main menu, ally-tan out of the game and close it via taskbar.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
     
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    Why Nvidia Experience is crap? I don't think so.
     
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    So if you plan to be the least CPU-bound, then a P170EM/P175SM is best with the XM CPU and if you plan to have the most GPU powah available without maxing the CPU, then the P370EM/P375SM is the best choice?
    Well maybe I should not say the Pxx5SM models yet, as they might redo the layout a bit for more cooling
     
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    I made this log with Nvidia Inspector, could someone please tell me if the GPU is running fine?

    Logged while running Crysis 3 @ Full HD 1920x1080 - Everything Maxed Out

    PS: I set the fans at 100% all time (Fn + 1)!

    LOG: http://tny.cz/e3e0beef
     
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    Your second GPU is not in use.
     
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    Thank you so much!!!

    I think this occurred when I installed Nvidia Experience because I've already set SLi, now I checked the "Maximize 3D Performance" in control panel that was unchecked...

    So, this amazing graphics maxed out with only 1 GPU? hahahaha
     
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    Well your second GPU was just being lazy, get it kicked in and get some more frames :D
     
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    omg, that log almost made my tapatalk crash cuz of its insane length o_O next time please just attach a text file with the log data ;)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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