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    Current state of GTX 1080 Laptops

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Ennea, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. Ennea

    Ennea wwwwww

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    Exactly as the thread title implies - what is the current state of GTX 1080 laptops? I've read there are several heat/paste issues amongst other things and buying is inadvisable right now?

    Drop some knowledge.
     
  2. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Not if you get it from a good reseller / system builder that know what they're doing and do a proper paste job. See the temps right above the benchmarks here: EVOC P870DM3 Review by Phoenix
     
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    Ennea wwwwww

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    I like to think I'm not the only one that isn't willing to pay $7000...
    Is there anything in the $2000-3000 range that is actually good?
     
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  4. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    oh the $7000 USD is not the actual price, I think it starts @ $2500

    The reason mine is so expensive is because I maxed out all the specs and chose the Silicon Lottery CPU
     
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  5. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    1080 runs wonderfully in these machines. I opted for the dual heatsink for a single 1080 and the temps are ridiculously low - overkill. As in I've never seen it go beyond 75 degrees on a bad day under long sessions with the fans sitting on their ass doing sweet FA.
    Once I get a few things sorted out I might post a video to dispel the myth that fans are loud in hardcore gaming.
    You don't need a $7000 top-fueler configuration like brother @Phoenix unless you want all the trimmings and NVMe drives to boot - remember, having these options is a value proposition in itself, not many machines let you configure or grow/upgrade into to this extent. If you're only after a peasantry single 1080 then $3000 is enough to get started.
     
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  6. Ennea

    Ennea wwwwww

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    Okay, so is HID's EVOC P870 the only real option or are there others?
    I just want to know what all my options are. Not just the model but also brand, seller, etc.
    (I may very well end up getting HID's P870)

    Thanks all.
     
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    You also have Mythlogic and Eurocom (horrible customer service *in my experience*, but no other reseller than HIDevolution offers factory delidding for the CPU. If you do it yourself, your CPU warranty is void. they really cater to ethusiasts like us and have the fastst RAM and latest SSD configurations if you need those.
     
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  8. slacker84

    slacker84 Notebook Geek

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    While I'm thinking of also upgrading my existing P870DM to the 1080 sli P870DM-3, there are other models that have 1080s, such as the MSI Titan (which is out), Asus (which isn't out yet), is also coming out with an 18 inch laptop, that's water cooled? or vapor cooled? It has a gigantic extension to the back of the laptop. Forgot the name, that isn't out yet though.
     
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  9. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    Asus GL701 is out, and there is no date on the 18 inch watercooled model that I know of. But Clevo's typically will have more upgrade options, and it should run a little cooler (not to mention the desktop CPU is nice).
     
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    EORUCIGN Notebook Consultant

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    Clevo P775DM3-G, MSI GT73VR, Clevo P870DM3-G, and Aorus X7 DT v6 are my recommendation to people who are willing to buy laptop that has 1080 graphics card.

    I am not sure ASUS makes laptop that has 1080 graphics card, and while Razer Blade Pro 2016 is definitely sexy and will be appealing to many users, since there aren't any review for the laptop, I am not going to recommend it to anyone.

    Some may question why I recommend Aorus X7 DT v6, since Aorus laptop does not have good reputation to clevo users. However according to notebookcheck.com, GentechPC, and Xotic PC they have improved the keyboard, display, and cooling solution. So now it is actually a decent laptop.
     
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  11. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    You have to be a total tool to buy that 18" laptop with excess baggage.. Epic fail!! I think @Mr. Fox has the perfect description for it, I'll let him enlighten us..

    Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk
     
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  12. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Is that the colostomy bag model with the castrated BGA filth?

    Or are you referring to the MSI with the lackluster CPU and stunted power delivery system?
     
  13. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    You should get the P870DM3, and HIDevolution is a great place to get it. I will not purchase a Clevo from any vendor that is not a @Prema partner. The P870DM3 is the only model you should consider. I do not recommend any other Clevo models. In fact I recommend avoiding any and all except that and the Eurocom Tornado F5. In my opinion everything else is garbage and should be avoided.
     
  14. Chronograf86

    Chronograf86 Newbie

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    @Mr. Fox , now seriously. I'm looking for machine with GTX 1070/1080. Really nothng else except these 2 models?
     
  15. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Yeah, absolutely, bro. I'm as serious as a heart attack. Everything else is garbage. These two options are far from perfect, but they are not worthless trash like everything else on the market. If you're OK with crippled BGA feces that doesn't overclock worth a damn, can't be properly serviced, has poorly binned processors and runs as hot as a Mojave summer, feel free to choose from the other ludicrous options out there. We're living in sad times for notebook enthusiasts because there is hardly anything worthy of enthusiasm. Two acceptable models is tragic.
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

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    From his perspective yes, if you want to push the The extreme then the P870DM is an excellent machine. However if you just want an excellent gaming experience the other models can be tweaked and run very well.

    People can be a bit hyperbolic at times.
     
  17. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    I enjoy hyperbole and sarcasm. But, I am totally serious that I would not entertain the idea of wasting any more than about $500 max on a BGA turdbook no matter what it had for CPU or GPU. I'd prefer to limit my loss to about $300 if possible, as $500 is a bit more than I would want to waste on a disposable BGA trashbook.

    If you eliminate the options with BGA and compromised cooling systems (like unified heat sinks) the only two options left with sockets and slots are the P870DM and Tornado F5. Unless there is an option out there that I accidentally overlooked. There really is almost no variety out there that I would consider to be an exciting or impressive product. One 17-inch and one 15-inch worthy of consideration is about a bad as it can get.
     
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  18. Meaker@Sager

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    Unified cooling systems make sense, the thermal pad layout has certainly been on the conservative side and that's something I have pressed so should hopefully improve.
     
  19. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    I am all for anything that works well and has consistent QC. So far, the examples of unified cooling systems have been poor, so they would need to change that scenario before I could view it as a good option. Having heat sinks that fit properly every time and are not sloppy or deformed might change my opinion about the concept. All I have seen to date have been examples of poor execution, so naturally my opinion of the design is going to be unfavorable. From my perspective it's pretty straightforward: If it doesn't work great, then it's no good.
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    Let's not confuse the design with the execution. But don't worry, on that front things are moving.
     
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    Fair enough. And, I agree with you... execution and QC are absolutely critical. I'll take the bait once they score a consistent win on the execution and delivery.
     
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    Check EUROCOM Tornado F5 model - it is 15.6" model with 1080 and 7700K
     
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    Hmm, $695 for GTX 1080. Interesting ...
     
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    This has to be the industry's only acceptable sub-17 inch high performance notebook in my opinion. Anything else is going be hidden in the shadows of its greatness.
     
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    There really aren't a lot of options out there for a 15 inch model with 1080 in them.
     
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    Men, every your post is like quote from some epic movie :cool:.

    I do really hope that GTX 1080 and 7700K combo will make it. Let's wait for reviews and feedback from first owners
     
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    I'll be looking out for the reviews too.
     
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    I hope I will be able to provide one soon with the 7700K and 1080.
     
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