Exactly as the thread title implies - what is the current state of GTX 1080 laptops? I've read there are several heat/paste issues amongst other things and buying is inadvisable right now?
Drop some knowledge.
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
Not if you get it from a good reseller / system builder that know what they're doing and do a proper paste job. See the temps right above the benchmarks here: EVOC P870DM3 Review by PhoenixMr. Fox and i_pk_pjers_i like this. -
I like to think I'm not the only one that isn't willing to pay $7000...
Is there anything in the $2000-3000 range that is actually good?Mr. Fox likes this. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
oh the $7000 USD is not the actual price, I think it starts @ $2500
The reason mine is so expensive is because I maxed out all the specs and chose the Silicon Lottery CPUi_pk_pjers_i and TBoneSan like this. -
1080 runs wonderfully in these machines. I opted for the dual heatsink for a single 1080 and the temps are ridiculously low - overkill. As in I've never seen it go beyond 75 degrees on a bad day under long sessions with the fans sitting on their ass doing sweet FA.
Once I get a few things sorted out I might post a video to dispel the myth that fans are loud in hardcore gaming.
You don't need a $7000 top-fueler configuration like brother @Phoenix unless you want all the trimmings and NVMe drives to boot - remember, having these options is a value proposition in itself, not many machines let you configure or grow/upgrade into to this extent. If you're only after a peasantry single 1080 then $3000 is enough to get started.Last edited: Dec 1, 2016Mr. Fox and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
Okay, so is HID's EVOC P870 the only real option or are there others?
I just want to know what all my options are. Not just the model but also brand, seller, etc.
(I may very well end up getting HID's P870)
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
You also have Mythlogic and Eurocom (horrible customer service *in my experience*, but no other reseller than HIDevolution offers factory delidding for the CPU. If you do it yourself, your CPU warranty is void. they really cater to ethusiasts like us and have the fastst RAM and latest SSD configurations if you need those.Last edited: Dec 1, 2016Mr. Fox and i_pk_pjers_i like this. -
While I'm thinking of also upgrading my existing P870DM to the 1080 sli P870DM-3, there are other models that have 1080s, such as the MSI Titan (which is out), Asus (which isn't out yet), is also coming out with an 18 inch laptop, that's water cooled? or vapor cooled? It has a gigantic extension to the back of the laptop. Forgot the name, that isn't out yet though.
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Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative
Asus GL701 is out, and there is no date on the 18 inch watercooled model that I know of. But Clevo's typically will have more upgrade options, and it should run a little cooler (not to mention the desktop CPU is nice).
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Clevo P775DM3-G, MSI GT73VR, Clevo P870DM3-G, and Aorus X7 DT v6 are my recommendation to people who are willing to buy laptop that has 1080 graphics card.
I am not sure ASUS makes laptop that has 1080 graphics card, and while Razer Blade Pro 2016 is definitely sexy and will be appealing to many users, since there aren't any review for the laptop, I am not going to recommend it to anyone.
Some may question why I recommend Aorus X7 DT v6, since Aorus laptop does not have good reputation to clevo users. However according to notebookcheck.com, GentechPC, and Xotic PC they have improved the keyboard, display, and cooling solution. So now it is actually a decent laptop.Last edited: Dec 3, 2016 -
You have to be a total tool to buy that 18" laptop with excess baggage.. Epic fail!! I think @Mr. Fox has the perfect description for it, I'll let him enlighten us..
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Is that the colostomy bag model with the castrated BGA filth?
Or are you referring to the MSI with the lackluster CPU and stunted power delivery system?jclausius, i_pk_pjers_i, TomJGX and 1 other person like this. -
You should get the P870DM3, and HIDevolution is a great place to get it. I will not purchase a Clevo from any vendor that is not a @Prema partner. The P870DM3 is the only model you should consider. I do not recommend any other Clevo models. In fact I recommend avoiding any and all except that and the Eurocom Tornado F5. In my opinion everything else is garbage and should be avoided.deathwingbg, Spartan@HIDevolution, GTVEVO and 2 others like this.
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@Mr. Fox , now seriously. I'm looking for machine with GTX 1070/1080. Really nothng else except these 2 models?
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Yeah, absolutely, bro. I'm as serious as a heart attack. Everything else is garbage. These two options are far from perfect, but they are not worthless trash like everything else on the market. If you're OK with crippled BGA feces that doesn't overclock worth a damn, can't be properly serviced, has poorly binned processors and runs as hot as a Mojave summer, feel free to choose from the other ludicrous options out there. We're living in sad times for notebook enthusiasts because there is hardly anything worthy of enthusiasm. Two acceptable models is tragic.Niaphim, deathwingbg, TBoneSan and 2 others like this.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
From his perspective yes, if you want to push the The extreme then the P870DM is an excellent machine. However if you just want an excellent gaming experience the other models can be tweaked and run very well.
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I enjoy hyperbole and sarcasm. But, I am totally serious that I would not entertain the idea of wasting any more than about $500 max on a BGA turdbook no matter what it had for CPU or GPU. I'd prefer to limit my loss to about $300 if possible, as $500 is a bit more than I would want to waste on a disposable BGA trashbook.
If you eliminate the options with BGA and compromised cooling systems (like unified heat sinks) the only two options left with sockets and slots are the P870DM and Tornado F5. Unless there is an option out there that I accidentally overlooked. There really is almost no variety out there that I would consider to be an exciting or impressive product. One 17-inch and one 15-inch worthy of consideration is about a bad as it can get.Last edited: Dec 12, 2016TomJGX likes this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Unified cooling systems make sense, the thermal pad layout has certainly been on the conservative side and that's something I have pressed so should hopefully improve.
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I am all for anything that works well and has consistent QC. So far, the examples of unified cooling systems have been poor, so they would need to change that scenario before I could view it as a good option. Having heat sinks that fit properly every time and are not sloppy or deformed might change my opinion about the concept. All I have seen to date have been examples of poor execution, so naturally my opinion of the design is going to be unfavorable. From my perspective it's pretty straightforward: If it doesn't work great, then it's no good.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Let's not confuse the design with the execution. But don't worry, on that front things are moving.
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Fair enough. And, I agree with you... execution and QC are absolutely critical. I'll take the bait once they score a consistent win on the execution and delivery.
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Eurocom Support Company Representative
Check EUROCOM Tornado F5 model - it is 15.6" model with 1080 and 7700K -
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This has to be the industry's only acceptable sub-17 inch high performance notebook in my opinion. Anything else is going be hidden in the shadows of its greatness.
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Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative
There really aren't a lot of options out there for a 15 inch model with 1080 in them.
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I do really hope that GTX 1080 and 7700K combo will make it. Let's wait for reviews and feedback from first ownersMr. Fox likes this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
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I hope I will be able to provide one soon with the 7700K and 1080.TBoneSan, Chronograf86 and temp00876 like this.
Current state of GTX 1080 Laptops
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Ennea, Nov 29, 2016.