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    Custom Cooling for P37x,

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by VSSS, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. F1r3

    F1r3 Notebook Consultant

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    In 6 months i will make a dot too ;)
    Temps are still good - maybe i repaste the CPU the next days to look after it works with a small dot better.
     
  2. D2 Ultima

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    So now to figure out where I can acquire this cooling solution for the slave GPU on the P370EM/P375SM I plan to buy...
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

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    When he offers it for sale since these are hand crafted.
     
  4. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    if I had ~ 100,000 dollars to spend, I would have bought all the equipment to perform different gadgets ehhh, I do not have much money so I wait for a company that has also performed other jobs,
    Today I got the information, and next 1-2 week will be considered as the final touches will be ready for the assembly line ;)
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Very cool (no pun intended) this is what I wish you could have for all high end machines.
     
  6. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Do you mean you've got the okay for it to be produced on a large scale for people to buy?
     
  7. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    I just designed a prototype, and HawkForce has exclusive rights to this product, how it will be for sale only via HawkForce. hawkforce pays for production and it all depends on hawkForce.

    I can only say that Hawkforce is not only interested in the implementation of my design cooling, but will also better support for the client, several projects are in progress so I hope with time, with the advent of the CPU Haswell, hawkForce you're ready with all projects ;)
     
  8. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    if hawkforce keeps this up i might be inclined to go with them instead of mysn next time around :p

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    Clevo notebook not only to benefit from the new cooling,
    after a small intervention can be applied in almost of every notebook
    I was asked I looked at possibilities for application of the cooling in the AW M18, in theory, I think that will be a significant improvement,
    temporarily shows a comparison of heat pipes

    [​IMG]
     
  10. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    dont the alienwares already have three cpu heatpipes?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  11. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    so I know that AW has three heat pipes for each hardware, which does not bother replace the heatsink and heat pipe for larger and more efficient.
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The AW heatpipe you show has just oxidised a bit, that wont really hurt performance unless you mean your heatpipe is more efficient.
     
  13. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    a busy Saturday and the work in progress, to show you a new sample Master Card, please pay attention to the fans do not hang around to 100%, the switching point is 95/96 ° C with OEM EC ;)
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Nice scores there indeed, what sort of temps do you see in a game like crysis 3?
     
  15. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    big thanks, it is not easy to force fans to operate at full speed, and fun voltages is also very dangerous, so voltage 1.1V and more I will not be tested for stability at high risk,
    at 1.1V bay can pull 10-30MHz Core for good points, but EVGA does not offer such possibilities
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Voltage should not be dangerous if you have improved the temperatures, the voltage of the desktop chips is often run at 1.2V 24/7.....
     
  17. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    yes yes , only desktop Up to 200W power ;) ,

    Crysis 3 Single GPU all Max 2x TXMSAA , 1.1GHz Core and 1.4Ghz Memory
    2013-04-21 14:56:37 - crysis3
    start
    Frames: 13671 - Time: 364965ms - Avg: 37.458 - Min: 28 - Max: 56
    [​IMG]
    stop
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Game setting (old pix) :

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Very nice temps at those clock speeds, now if only you could modify the fan tables...
     
  19. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    CPU fan also speeds up the GPU temperature drops, the same GPU AVG is at the level of 86-89 ° C,

    I am aware of the cooling will be available to the user finds what he would do crazy clocks, the risk is a fun,
    I greet
     
  20. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    for the help Fumark and auxiliary temperature Phishing can switch the fan on 100%
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]


    edit

    as fast as the growth performance in BF3
    850/1200
    [​IMG]
    1100/1400
    [​IMG]
     
  21. D2 Ultima

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    I'm confused about something. You said it's difficult to make the fans run at 100% speed... isn't it possible to Fn + 1 and max fanspeeds out? Or does that not work with current gen clevos?
     
  22. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    hello,
    my test notebook is Clevo P370EM ( HawkForce LunaP370EM),
    is equipped with the first CLEVO OEM BIOS does not have the function FN + FANSPEED Max,
     
  23. Forsaked

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    VSS you could use the Prema BIOS-Mod! ;)
     
  24. D2 Ultima

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    So wait, it's only Sager BIOSes that have the FN + 1 = fanspeed max?
    So if I bought say Mythlogic's Nyx3712, I wouldn't be able to do that? I'd have to use Prema's BIOS?
     
  25. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    myth usually enables that feature in their bios, iirc :) they like to tinker like that.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  26. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    I will say this. high fan speed lower temperature, lower temperatures greater appetite for overclocking, I am very worried about the cooling is not blocked by oc ;)
     
  27. DGDXGDG

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    still no full picture of the custom hs?:thumbsup:
     
  28. D2 Ultima

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    Oh good. I'm glad they're good like that, now I don't need to bother one of their smart nerd clones to ask them this XD. Are Prema's bios mods compatible with their machine? Or will it brick it?
     
  29. bonnie.clyde

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    But what kind of dramaturgy! ... and publicity? ;)
     
  30. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    gentlemen, the cooling of the publication is not Enabled, the company that it will produce the cooling has marked some important points trademarks
    I have to publish look to do the greater part illegible and will look dull, (
    only when an agreement is made for the quantities will be supplied a product that you can publish, waiting to reward ;).

    Prema Bios Mod works on every Clevo P370 EM, I do not use it to get reliable results of comparative OEM -> Custom Cooling
     
  31. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    showing with my first prototype

    [​IMG]
     
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    Ah so a dell type interface and your own heat pipes? Interesting.
     
  33. VSSS

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    so this was the first prototype to see if it should be done, but the P370 its housing construction and the location of gpu is unique as it makes a lot of problems in the construction of a new cooling
    edit
    using high quality heat pipes can be more to extract. structure first and the last and had even 10 degrees less. if I applied in my Cooling and m18 hmmmm
     
  34. SFVogt

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    Hello,

    since the announcement in a german forum is about half a year ago. Can we still expect a release?

    Best regards
    from Germany
     
  35. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    you read exactly?, info for you on the HWL @ schenker Forum is written, read my post # 57 + # 13 on NBR, you wanted this to me did not take a the HWL, I will ignore you, so do not be surprised clown/ actor..
    By the way please not to use my materials (video) for your image (even if this is the worst quality that do not have my permission), you want to build an idealistic Post please use your own experience.
     
  36. Meaker@Sager

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    I wonder how this will compare to the 375SM model.
     
  37. VSSS

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    hello Meaker

    I have a lot of work lately because lack of information here, but
    will be fine :thumbsup:
     
  38. SFVogt

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    Hey guy,

    it's a simple little question, no more. Be factual, please.
    I understand, i have to be very patient. I wait further...

    Kind regards,
    from germany :hi2:
     
  39. VSSS

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    update of 07.2013,
    Design HS of 7970M is not fully compatible with the 8970M would remind the HS sample was optimized for the 7970M

    [​IMG]
    4x2* voltage transformers
    [​IMG]

    4x1* voltage transformers
    [​IMG]
    as we know were two types 7970M (voltage transformers * 1x4 and 2x4), my Design was optimized versions of 2x4 voltage transformers,


    with a standard clock test were successful 1x4 voltage transformers, but the overclocked version of 4x1 voltage transformers test was not successful,
    Voltage 1.1V 1.1 GHz Core , redesign in progress ;)

    VERSION 7970M 4x2 * Voltage Transformers went through all the tests successfully,

    not only the user, manufacturer (Clevo) is interested in improving the quality of cooling, possible that soon you will get a compromise Custom + OEM cooling from the manufacturer? :)

    next problem is the power supply, with extreme overclocking the CPU clock and GPU, 300W PSU does not have more resources,

    a good solution for enthusiasts is the PSU from 330W P370SM or P570WM

    [​IMG]


    improvement notebook is just a hobby, sometimes one test takes me weeks.....,
    There are a lot of details that need to be fine tuned, the market for fast changes of design, even a small detail makes a great change in the structure.


    AMD 8970M CCC 13.8,13.9 and 13.10 problems with CrossFire?

    IDLE clock slave card 900/1250? , Please install the latest EVGA Precision 4.2.1 and add to Startup

    by the way

    Tape Mod V2
    ;)
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    I greet
     
  40. Meaker@Sager

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    I was not aware of differences in power delivery, is that 4 core + 1 mem vs 4 core + 2 mem?
     
  41. VSSS

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    the pictures are two versions of graphics cards that have different voltage* regulators*, ThermalPad fills the space between the element and the heatsink, and my tests conclude with graphics cards that have a doubly soldered voltage regulators are stable as the other and Heatsinks is a very good fit,
    voltage regulator must be cooled, Heatsinks height must be adapted to other solutions, the thicker ThermalPad the less heat is transported, the solution does not satisfy me,


    I have not checked the documentation which fuses are the core and the memory of which,
    It logically comes with four on the core, and two on the memory


    [​IMG]
     
  42. Meaker@Sager

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    It's just a new revision with better soldering, there is no difference in the number and organisation of components as far as I can see.

    The odd soldering may be due to the first design needing to be fixed to avoid the early issues they had.
     
  43. VSSS

    VSSS Notebook Consultant

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    exactly the design is better for overclocking, and the two components are soldered to one another, the first bar is also clean solder the second bar is extra possibly with hand-soldered, is one set (shown in the photo) connected to another fuse,
     
  44. VSSS

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    Update:

    Custom HS for Slave
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    via OEM HeatSinks :
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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    You may as well buy the primary heatsink from a SM series to go with that.
     
  46. VSSS

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    interesting, and what you do with the CPU fan speed as inserted the SN heatsing? , Which does not change the situation will still be loud, my idea was that the laptop was quiet,
    HS from SM to EM is not a miracle solution :)
     
  47. Meaker@Sager

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    I mean for the primary heatsink, no point beefing up the second and leaving the primary alone, the latest design has thicker heatpipes.

    The latest SM lets you sacrifice some CPU cooling to beef up the second GPU heatsink.
     
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