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    D900C / 9260 Supporting Quad?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by blueyedsoul, Apr 12, 2007.

  1. blueyedsoul

    blueyedsoul Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey all,

    I'm doing a little pre-shopping looking for a desktop replacement / gaming notebook in the next month or two, and I've been checking out info on the D900C (Sager 9260). I noticed that XoticPC is offering this notebook with the option of a Q6600 quad-core processor. In fact, they're the only ones I've found with this option so far. I'm just wondering if anyone knows if the quad-cores will actually be supported by this notebook. Also, if the Q6600 does work, would it necessarily also support the QX6700?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Although all the specs coming out of Clevo read:

    CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6xxx; Core 2 Extreme X6xx

    The D900C has a Intel 965 desktop chipset.

    The cooling on the recent D900x series has improved since the D900T, the dual fan and 4 pound copper heatsink on my D900K keeps my dual-core desktop CPU under 50 C degrees at all times [using the Clevo Fan Speed Toggle Fn+F2], even during long sessions of gaming. So I am not so worried about the CPU temps on this beast, the GPU temps are probably going to be more noticeable.

    It is entirely possible that the Q6600 can be installed onto it.

    I am going to try and confirm that, but my answer wont come as quick as I would like since the D900C won't get shipped until a few more weeks.
    _______________________________

    UPDATE: got confirmation through Clevo (as well as some resellers) that Q6xx (Quad-core) will probably work on the D900C [successful test with Q6600].... when the first units shipped to the US within the next two weeks, we will know the true capabilities of this beast.

    When the first units arrived, I will try and test a QX6700 Extreme in it. Its going to be a screamer.

    WOW, this is the fastest notebook on the planet.
    The world's first and only Quad-Core notebook, when will wonders cease. :)

    Game On People,
    -Gophn
     
  3. blueyedsoul

    blueyedsoul Notebook Enthusiast

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    Simply awesome. I must have it!

    Thanks for the quick response Gophn. You're definitely the go-to guy.
     
  4. Donald@Paladin44

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    The official word is:

    "So Far Q6600 will not be possible on the D900C. While the quad core option is being studied, it currently will just not fit in the available thermal design of D900C. Will Intel Release lower TDP quad core CPU? Will we be able to adjust enough thermal headroom to fit in a quad core? It’s completely unknown at this time."
     
  5. pyro9219

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    I'm honestly wondering if XoticPC is just doing this because it's pin compatible. Where is this tested compatibility information coming from?
     
  6. Andrew Baxter

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    Gophn, who is your source on this? It's hard for me to determine what's true and what's not. I trust Donald's word because he's been a reliable news source and somebody that's always forthright, but Gophn was right when he told me last time the new Nvidia Direct X 10 cards would be in the D900C (which the guy at the Clevo booth at CeBit reiterated to me when I asked) :confused:
     
  7. Donald@Paladin44

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    Andrew, my source is the senior engineer at Sager. I have posted direct quotes from him on both issues (Quad Core and DirectX 10 cards) in my Post #4 above, and at http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=1861629&postcount=77 wherein he was very detailed.

    In addition he told me that the Clevo guy at the Clevo booth at CeBit was out of line with his comments which were not only inaccurate, but which he was not authorized to say.

    For complete clarity please read both of the quotes from the Sager senior engineer referenced above.
     
  8. Andrew Baxter

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    I'm sure Clevo tends to get a bit excited about the products they're offering, I sense that maybe they're probably overstating what can really be delivered here -- maybe in theory they could do this but in practice it'd be a stretch or possibly foolish. I can only say that let's wait 2 - 3 months and see what happens. I'd like to be a believer, but the realist in me sides with Donald.
     
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    Well, what they are saying is that neither Quad Core nor DirectX 10 have been successfully tested in the D900C/NP9260 at this time so they cannot comment on what might or might not become available in the future. They simply don't know because right now neither work in this model. They are working hard to find ways to make them work because it is their strong desire to be able to offer them in the future.

    What should be taken from this is simply that you cannot say what will work until you have been successful in getting it to work, and at this point neither component works.
     
  10. pyro9219

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    Ship me one of these machines and I'll take it with me to work and have them run tests on the quad core *dreams*

    Voting this thread down because I'm tired of hype driving people bonkers for days.
     
  11. blueyedsoul

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    And XoticPC has pulled the Quad option :(

    Guess we'll have to wait and see.
     
  12. pyro9219

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    figures...
     
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    sager 9890 support CPU with TDP 84W... Pentium 4 640...

    Intel just release some q6600 with a tdp 95W (step 0) instead of 105W....

    Maybe step 0 could fit into sager 9260.

    Best regards...

    PS: Sorry for my very bad english...
     
  14. ahmad_ie

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    According to Eurocom Clevo D900C Main Chipset is Intel G965+ICH8-R

    This chipset officially support quad processor :)

    So there is very high chance that D900C support Intel Quad Processor
     
  15. pyro9219

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    The problem isn't the chipset, it's the cooling. I don't remember which pinset each has, but the Q6600 and the X6700 both generate more heat then their dual core processors. I've not heard much on the cooling of this machine, but I'm thinking that even if support doesn't work with the default cooling mechanism, maybe they will release something like a rev2 that will be able to handle quad core as well as DX10.

    Keep in mind that there is alot of testing to support that Quad core CPU's are slower then dual core when it comes to things like gaming, because the bridge between the chips is an extra burden on the system. The quad core chips are really meant for media creators, transactional systems, and other high-end multithreaded applications.
     
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    I'll believe it when I see someone post on here that they are USING a machine that came with a Q6600, and I want CPU-Z screenshots to prove it, as well as thermal information. :D

    Very cool though.. I wonder about the X6700 then..
     
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    Power usage and heat generation are through the roof with any Kentsfield CPU, as they are two Conroes fused together. I like the mention of the 8700M though, it is a little more concrete than Clevo pulling it off their site.

    I think you mean QX6700 ;)
     
  19. pyro9219

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    I knew what I meant, but I was in a hurry when I wrote it =P

    I can get those really cheap since I work for Intel..