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    D901C can use 45nm CPU list (i tested every one)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Salivaxiu, Apr 9, 2008.

  1. Salivaxiu

    Salivaxiu Notebook Enthusiast

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    E8100 all ok but boot cant view Core number

    E8200 all ok but boot cant view Core number

    E8300 all ok but boot cant view Core number

    E8400 all ok

    E8500 all ok but boot cant view Core number

    Q9300 all ok

    Q9450 all ok

    Q9550 all ok

    X9650 all ok but boot cant view Core number

    X9750 X9775 i dont konw......

    maybe ....we can updata cpu to 45nm .... :p
     
    Salivaxiu, Apr 9, 2008
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    You have access to quite a few CPUs :)

    I haven't tested Q9550s yet as there are none around :(
     
    Neil@Kobalt, Apr 9, 2008
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    Did you do anything different compare to the 65 nm procesor you tried before? BIOS update or some settings?
     
    pasoleatis, Apr 9, 2008
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  4. Salivaxiu

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    65nm??

    all ok !

    E2140-X6800 all ok
     
    Salivaxiu, Apr 9, 2008
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  5. pasoleatis

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    Did you do BIOS update? Or did you just put the processor in and it work?
     
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    Clevo has not released a official Bios Update yet. There are still a few bugs with the processors at this time.
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Apr 9, 2008
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    Can that be taken to mean that, once the bugs are worked out, a D901C that has that BIOS will be able to accomodate the new 45nm CPUs?
     
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    It could be? It is up to Clevo to develop a working bios to resolve the bugs... ;)
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Apr 9, 2008
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    We have been testing with the BETA BIOS for the last few days with Q9450 and it's absolutely fine apart from with 4GB RAM where it is a little buggy :(
     
    Neil@Kobalt, Apr 9, 2008
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    Any idea on a timeframe for this? I have been holding off on ordering a 9262 until the 45nm processors are available.
     
    daikyu, Apr 9, 2008
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    This sound bad because I was thinking to put 4 GB in my laptop.
     
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  12. Justin@XoticPC

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    That is correct, there are still bugs with these processors and the D901C. :confused: Clevo is still working out the bugs.
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Apr 9, 2008
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    the bug ....beacuse...

    in bios CPU micro code....error....

    so ....

    i use phoenix editer edit the bios .... can change boot logo

    now i change the logo to my play game UT3 logo...hahaha
     
    Salivaxiu, Apr 9, 2008
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  14. Salivaxiu

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    D901C Theoretically can support 400 FSB

    beacuse the broad PLC use ICS 9LPR363DGLF

    but.... oc my E6750 cant boot D901C

    maybe my cpu cant OC 400mhz ...bad luck~! cry~~~
     
    Salivaxiu, Apr 9, 2008
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    Cristian, as you have an order with us I have emailed you seperately.
     
    Neil@Kobalt, Apr 9, 2008
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    "a little buggy" with 4GB RAM in what way?
     
    Shyster1, Apr 9, 2008
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    Can anybody tell me if the Q9550 will have better (lower) temperature than the Quad Q6700???
     
    6edo, Apr 9, 2008
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    The Q9550 is supposed to have the same TDP as the Q6700 - both at 95W. The info is posted on the first page of this review from hardwarezone.com.

    Here's a screenshot of the table from that review(click on it for a bigger view :rolleyes: ):
    45nmCPUs.JPG
     
    Shyster1, Apr 9, 2008
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    Thanks Shy... well it is suppose to have it... but is there any difference?
     
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    Well, on page 11 of the review I cited to above, the benchmarking results indicate that the Q9550 consumed about 10% to 15% less power than the Q6700. Since power = heat (to put it in a nontechnical way), the results obtained by hardwarezone.com suggest that the Q9550 should run a little cooler than the Q6700.
     
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    mmmh, that's good...
     
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    I just hope that Clevo will get the bugs worked out before the June 30th deadline for the Sager upgrade on the 8800's. I still have to send my unit in and would prefer if I could do the proc and the gfx at the same time. :(
     
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    QX9770+9850M GTX

    Final D901C
     
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    o...error...

    9950M GTX
     
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    two questions:
    -wats the difference between the Q6750 vs. Q9450?... same everything but Cache. I assume price would be similar. I know one is 45 nm and the other is 65... so wat does that do for you?
    -does it look like the D901c will need ANOTHER mobo update? or is a BIOS update alone looking sufficient?
     
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    there will not be another mobo upgrade required for the Q9450. we just have to wait for clevo to release a bios update that supports it. main difference is more cache which helps performance and slightly less heat output. the performance difference will not be large at all, if even noticable. same with the heat output.
     
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    There is no processor q6750. If you compare q6700 with q9450. The FSB and the cache are different. Plus the q9450 has some newer instructiions like SSE4 ...
     
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    The basic differences between the Q9450 and the Q6700 (which I assume is the chip you meant to refer to??), are laid out in a comparison article published by hardwarezone.com on April 1. Here is a link to the article " Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550/Q9450 - 45nm Prevails."

    The stats they report are as follows:
    • CPU Model..............Clock......L2 Cache...FSB..TDP..Est. Price (US$)
    • Core 2 Quad Q9450..2.66GHz..6MB x 2....1333..95W....$316
    • Core 2 Quad Q6700..2.67GHz..4MB x 2....1066..95W....$530
    Spec-wise, as the listing shows, the Q9450 has a slightly slower clock (by 10MHz), a bigger L2 Cache (which is only shared by two of the four cores), a higher FSB (by 333MHz), and, apparently, a $214 lower price.

    Basically, the Q9450 will give about the same performance (maybe a little better or a little worse, depending) and do so with about 10% to 15% less power usage (i.e., will run a little cooler - that's mainly due to going to 45nm from 65nm).
     
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    NoNoNo!

    Fianl 45nm LGA775 CPU is 400 FSB

    QX97xx
     
    Salivaxiu, Apr 10, 2008
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    As far as I can tell, it depends on what chipset you're running. Of the current Intel chipsets, only the X48 chipset supports an FSB running at 1600 (i.e., 4 x 400), and requires 1600MHz DDR-3.

    The Intel chart comparing all of the current Intel chipsets doesn't show any other chipsets with a 1600/400 FSB. The X48 does support the Q9xxx series of quad-cores, so, yes, a Q9450 will handle a 1600/400 FSB; you just have to get the right chipset/memory configuration.
     
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    A Q9450 will handle 400FSB if you OC it - but you don't need an X48 board to do that of course. X48 will do for a QX9770 (400 x 9) and Skultrail etc for QX9775s (socket 771 boards).

    Regds the Q9450 vs Q6700 yup they do run cooler and are more efficient - need less vCore esp when Ocing. The Q9450 is a faster CPU (perhaps better performing is more accurate) and if you are looking at buying new then Q9450 is defo the right option.
     
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    Sorry but I just don't see the QX9770 with its 136TDP being able to work long term in the unit.
     
    Wu Jen, Apr 11, 2008
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    What do you mean by this? A 135 w CPU and a fictional gpu? :D
     
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    Any news from Clevo/Sager?

    I consider to replace my E6850 with a E8500, to improve speed and power consumption.

    But are we still waiting for a new Bios?
     
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    Right! You can order notebooks with the new CPUs, but they didn't put the new bios for download.
     
    6edo, Jun 1, 2008
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