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    D901C's extreme challenge.

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by foxy_lady, May 6, 2008.

  1. foxy_lady

    foxy_lady Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    I want to report on customizing D901C.

    I obtained D901C last week. At first, I exchanged CPU X6800 to QX9650.
    I succeeded in the installation of QX9650 on D901C. System BIOS revision is 1.00.16E.
    My system is really running without problem. CPU Temp is 50C-60C.
    Vista Experience Index Score is as follows...

    CPU:5.9 RAM:5.9 Aero:5.9 Gaming:5.8 HDD:5.9

    My D901C recorded 3DMark06 score 14377.

    If it dares to enumerate the problem, the ability of the AC adaptor might be
    insufficient.

    AT YOUR OWN RISK, Of course.
     
  2. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    You did not mention : anything OCed in there?
     
  3. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Q9550 SLI gets 14,070 so that score is about right for a QX9650 :eek:



    Is that a question or a nudge to OC the 2 cards ;)
     
  4. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I guess both. I want to see a score with a QX9650 stock and OCed cards to 600/1500/900 and the CPU OCed to 3.4 and OCed cards also.
    Anybody want to take the challenge?
     
  5. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    you are joking, right? qx9650 is 130w. the max you can put into the socket of these laptops is a 95w quad core. you are going to fry your motherboard when all 4 cores of the qx9650 start getting busy.
     
  6. foxy_lady

    foxy_lady Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't overclock now...

    When running benchmark, CPU temp is upping to the limit of QX9650.
    Motherboard temp is 60C and CPU temp is 70C when all core get up to full power.
    Now D901C need more cooling capacity to overclocking.
    I tried installing nTune provided by nVIDIA. But GPU overcloking option is N/A.

    My D901C's BIOS is 1.00.16E. Now CLEVO released 1.00.13.
    This revision might be won't accept QX9650.

    Anyway, this customize will be short life.
    However, I dare to seek the more speed.
     
  7. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    i am not talking about overclocking, i am simply talkig the 130w on your processor at stock clocks will fry your motherboard.

    run wprime and it's long benchmarh a few cycles and see what your temps are then.
     
  8. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    I am wondering what are they doing those sellers from Europe which sell the D901C with qx9650 or with qx9770 :confused2: . i mean some changes to the case. q9770 has the TDP 136W.

    http://www.pcw.fr/index.html?lang=fr&target=p1912.html&lmd=39575.753912

    The multiplier is lock for the extreme processors in the D901C.

    PL
     
  9. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    SetFSB then.
    The thing is , there is no point in using these extreme CPUs in the D901Cs just yet,they will either die or kill the motherboard.
    It`s a 50% increase in TDP.
     
  10. foxy_lady

    foxy_lady Notebook Enthusiast

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    I tried to change Multiplier. But it has been locked.
    SpeedStep is seem free, but it was x6.0 to x9.0 only.

    I think so that BIOS have protect.

    QX9650's SpeedStep is also core voltage getting lower. It checked by CPU-Z.
    Real heat generation and power consumption might be lower than reference TDP 130W.
    45nm processrule will achieve it.
     
  11. pasoleatis

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    Yes, but how is it going to perform wneh it is required to run at maximum for a week for example? For my work this can happen. Is it going to smoke?

    PL
     
  12. sp@nky

    sp@nky Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well Foxy Lady, your just a few days ahead of me. I'm still waiting for my new processor and SSDs :p

    As far as frying anything, I VERY seriously doubt we'll have problems. As an electronics engineer I know what themal design envelops are about and what heat vs consumptions are. The latter are "allways" a better indication of the heat disipation that the part will generate, of course efficiency will affect it, but 45nm part wins here to, so no doubts in my mind. :D Keeping the heat sinks air passage ways and the fans clean and lint free is far more important (now were is that compressed air can...)

    ALL, and I mean ALL the test I have seen on the net, the total system power consumption for the 45nm chip is lower by about 10 to 20% compared to the equivalent 65nm parts. Foxy Lady, I known you wont have a problem with your power brick, in fact the lower power should be healthier for your battery.

    Since this is an eXtreem part, Intel has probably added an extra margin in the design envelope for the OCers. Obviously Foxy lady's temps show this to be true. even at it's heigher clock speed the temps are right in line. :cool:

    Of course the FSB is going allong faster, but some of the newer recommended 65nm parts also have the higher FSB. Again I doubt there's a problem, although I'm sure the south/north bridge chips life are shortened (there ticking away faster) but as I noted above, that is not specific to this QX chip.

    Well it's a bit long of a post to be my 2c, but it is my take on it.

    Cheers

    P.S. If some has an extra q6600 to send me ;) :rolleyes: , I'll even do a watts useage comparison, battery drain test and infrared temp pictures and will post it to settle this.
     
  13. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    So,will you try to take it beyond 3.0 ?
     
  14. sp@nky

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    Unless someone has found a way to activate the multiplier, no.
    I'll try OCing the GPUs tho
     
  15. pasoleatis

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    It is still possible to put the q9770 it has 3.2 GHz and 1600 FSB.
     
  16. eleron911

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    Ouch . That doesn`t sound to good.
    So sp@nky, you should see 16K easily with GPUs OCed,maybe close to 17k then :)
     
  17. foxy_lady

    foxy_lady Notebook Enthusiast

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    I already installed Vista SP1.
    Any problems was not found on VGA Driver. The system have very stabilty.
    On 3DMark06, The maximum FPS is over 100.
    However, The software and Background service that I installed has increased.

    My new tuning in the future tries new VGA Driver, and is a cooling ability improvement (For instance, the cooling silicon seat is newly installed).

    NTUNE by NVIDIA was not able to overclock my GPU.

    You have overclocking tool for GPU?
    I look forward to good news.