D901c 8800M Upgradeable to 9800M?

As the topic states.

I can't seem to find any source to all the claims that the 8800M d901c's can be User Upgraded to 9800M...

Anyone have sauce?

 

yes... people have already gotten 9800M GTX SLI in their D901C's.

 

>.> you can indeed upgrade, but the question right now is what for? Better off getting a second 8800m instead of upgrading to a single 9800m gtx.

 

really but what about power consumption? more battery life when gaming outlet-less, no?

And I just want to know because I would plan to go 9800 Sli one day with out having to buy whole new laptop.

 

>.> the 9800m series isn't built on a smaller die, they still use the 65nm fabrication process so actually the 9800m gtx would consume even more power than a 8800m gtx.

 

What that contradicts the whole 9series line! seriously, Nvidia and all other places claim the 9-series is just the same cards as the 8series but optimized to use less power....?!?!

 

>.> there are some 55nm cards finally showing up from nvidia, but everything for the mobile department seems to be re badged graphics cards example, old 8700m gt is now the 9600m gt ddr3 and the 9800m gt is a re badged 8800m gtx.
There are a few new cards like the 9700m gts and the 9800m gtx, but to my knowledge they are all still based off the g92 65nm core.

 

Oh so the "lower power consumption" refers to the desktop counterparts?
that would make sense.

 

The only 55nm gpu's from Nvidia right now are the 9800gt and the 9800gtx+. The all 9 series cards support hybrid switching, but it isn't always implemented in the final product. I think Hp is planning to provide some laptops that support hybrid, but as it stands right now the two desktop gpu's are the only units that are even available for users to use hybrid.

 

Erhm...
Hybrid Switching...
Definition: To switch between discrete graphics and onboard graphics, without having to reboot the systems.

So only the 55nm gpu's have power-saving benefits? and HP is bringing them to the laptop world.

 

>.> yah so when you say it like its really nothing to do with the nvidia gpu saving power, your just changing over to the igp to save power.

 

T_T So in conclusion what your sharing is that the 9800gt+gtx are nothing but the 8800gtx renamed. Period.?
So the specs about the 9800 having 112 shaders while the 8800 has 96 is...false?

 

8800M GTX = 96 shaders
9800M GT = 96 shaders
9800M GTX = 112 shaders

the 8800M GTX and the 9800M GT have the same (near same) performance and specifications, however, its not as simple as a re-brand since there are slight differences in the driver support and power specifications.

But in the end, the 9800M GT performs about the same as the 8800M GTX.

.... and the 9800M GTX is the fastest since it has the most shaders
- but the performace/cost difference (compared to the GT) may turn people away since it may not be worth it.

 

>.> no lol the 9800m gtx does have 112 shaders, how can I put this...its nothing new, think of it as a desktop 8800 gt that has been made to run in a laptop and has been downclocked, its nothing new. Gophn already butted in so I'll let him take it from here.

 

actually the 8800gtx = 9800gt. it is the same card. my friend yesterday flashed his 8800mgtx from his 5793 into a 9800gt and its running fine and everything shows it as a 9800m gt.. all 4 of the 9800m gt gophn ive had literally in my hands have actually had a sticker on them that said 8800m gtx right on the board.

im considering doing this to my dell to have the first xps with 9800gt sli lol

 

kind of sad eh, good thing were here to stop ppl from falling for this trickery.

 

I believe this dispute can go everlasting.

I completely understand that there is a HUGE difference between the desktop cards and the notebook counterparts.

But lol....T_T this thread was built to confirm that Clevo D901c with 8800gtx installed look the same inside as the ones that come with 9800M's (assuming that 9800M cards are not available by them selves, so I cant say that the install has been done ;])

 

well doesn't matter to me anymore...done with gaming laptops. Can't wait to start my mobile desktop project. Should have my parts next weeks and then I can start working on the case.

 

Wait MOBILE DESKTOP!
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
What a PC on wheels?

 

Case shouldn't be to much thicker than the d901c, maybe a inch thicker. System will use desktop components except for the cd drive and hdd. I'm also going to rewire the psu to be external. It should come out looking something like the xbox 360 laptop. Its not meant to be used like a labtop, but it will be more than portable enough to use while I'm out of town. Key reasons for a project like this are, mobile entertainment center with real speakers"hopefully a 5.1 surround sound system" fully upgradeable graphics card up to 150w tdp. I won't be using a quad core cpu, because I have still not seen enough programs that fully utilize quad core. Case will be built to conform to Micro atx motherboard standard , meaning I will be able to continue to upgrade the system. Slimline cd drive "deciding whether to use slot load or not", as well as raid hdd's "haven't decided on how many yet, depending on space restraints".

 

Oh, ok, I was think a Shuttle XPC....mini-PC

 

That is a brilliant idea; I'd love to see how it comes out. Also, I don't know if it was a typo or not, but calling it a "labtop" seems like the absolutely perfect name for the new class of system you're inventing - not a laptop (obviously), and not a desktop ('cause of the connotations), but a labtop - something portable enough to set up quickly on the lab worktable, but self-contained enough that it can be packed up quickly and moved easily in order to stay out of the way of ongoing work, or to move to a different lab.

What are you going to be using for the case? Completely custom build, or are you going to modify something else to work as a case? Also, even though you're aiming for something along the lines of the so-called "slimline" designs, are you aiming to have full-size GPU(s) in the system, or not?

 

I was thinking something along the lines of this:


but more polished and more sophisticated in design and implementation.

 

O_O OM-gosh!
Bwhxeon I dare you to do that! Just do it! and show us the end result!!!!.. But use a cooler looking suitcase >_>

 

>.> lol it will look more like this. By using a slimline cd drive I'll save additional space which will be needed for extra room for cooling. The base of the case that everything will be attached will be aluminum and hopefully the lid and panel to access the unit will be made of carbon fiber. The main thing I'm trying decide on is the placement of the components. If everything will be accessed from the bottom of the unit or from the top like th 360 laptop. If everything is accessed from the top then everything will have to be cooled by using blower style fans, which might end up being a good idea anyway. The other way to assemble it would be more like a laptop and everything is accessed from the bottom. This way I can use much larger fans to cool all the components and do something crazy like add a large 250mm fan to really increase airflow.

I'm also thinking of using a lcd tv, so I can use hdmi so I can #1 use the tv's speakers to save space #2 remove the tv from my desk and use the screen for watching tv #3 have hdmi. I keep reading abut people wanting to connect their game stations or dvd play ext, to their computer screen and I though that would would be really nice, why not just use a screen with all that built in and can even be used independently from the computer .

 

That is way more polished than the dorky example I found - is that your actual work in progress, or something that someone else put together? At any rate, that is a nice labtop (not a misspelling, I've decided I like the word so much I'm adopting it, even if I'm the only one - credit to bwhxeon for the neologism).

I also very much like your thinking on using an LCD TV instead of a notebook display unit, for the reasons you stated and also because that might solve some of the issues that crop up with the standard display units used in notebooks, which do not generally provide their own EDID data - if I recall correctly (always a dubious proposition), TV displays are much better at providing EDID data, which is necessary in order to use NVidia GPUs in SLi.

In many respects, you're putting together exactly what I've really been looking for. I almost never take my notebook out of the house (or unplug the AC adapter), except when I take it to my in-laws, where it also just sits around plugged in all day, so my usage is really more desktoplike than notebook like; however, I need the ability to quickly close it up all in one package that can be easily moved around (e.g., stuck in a cabinet drawer) and without having a lot of separate bits and parts to be packed away as well.

You might just have hit apon a new market niche!

 

Well was gonna keep it a secret, but I already have a few people who want me to build them one after I finish the prototype model. The picture I posted is actually the 360 laptop built by Benjimin Heckendorn who is well known for his console mods. The basic design for my model is based off his, but its the internal components where my system will differ. I'm still up in the air about my cooling solution, I've planned 3 cooling solutions, water, air, or a cooling system using a metal called gallium. The cool thing about gallium is that its a non toxic metal unlike mercury and is a solid when under 80 degrees fahrenheit and a liquid at temperatures above that. The gallium design is the most efficient of the 3, but the problem is the cost of the metal.

The other thing I'm working on is the power supply. I've looked into some dedicated gpu/cpu power supplies to handle the major components and then using a 120 watt laptop power supply to power the lcd and the motherboard and fans. My biggest goal is to get the labtop down to 1 plug instead of using two to power the lcd and the system. =/ I have some pretty tough decisions to make down the road, because if people had to choose between something this big with a external power supply and one built into the system, I think they would want it built in.

There is one thing thats been surprising me though the more I look into this, a lot of desktop cooling systems never seem to be tested at their max cooling capacity. Several reviews that I've seen for gpu's say they can get a 4870 cool at 60c while only under 30% fan speed. At this point I'm not really worried about keeping a gpu cool in a system, because as long as I have proper airflow a gpu fan at say 50% should be able to keep it well within specs. Also as of right now, I'm not planning on building a system that is sli capable. That might change further down the line if I find that my cooling system is indeed as efficient as I hope it is.