Deciding between an EVOC P775TM-R and P870TM-R

make it 15w

 

Better off integrated then really.

 

Make it a clean manual switch between integrated and the graphics card and the problem is solved, no optimus, no graphics card only. People can get longer battery life on the go and optimum performance when not running on battery.

 

Complexity, development and cost is added as a result.

 

We are not talking about entry level devices here so the price increase will be small compared to the total cost of the device.
I have used both an Alienware 18 and the MSI GT72 with such a switch and it was nice to have longer battery life on the go and in dedicated graphics mode there was no interference from the Intel graphics.

 

We are talking smaller production runs which are more sensitive to development costs for a feature some people on here decried.

 

From what I gathered most of the criticism was directed towards an optimus solution. Obviously costs would be higher for smaller runs but if implemented successfully this could be ported over to other models. As one of the criticisms against many DTR / high end gaming laptops is that they are either crippled by optimus or on the other extreme that they do not have any useable battery life this is the best solution to make both sides happy. So no, it would not come for free but the benefits would outweigh the costs.

 

Other models don't use the desktop chip so it does differ a bit.

 

I can see that but I would expect that as before Clevo will have more than one model with a desktop Intel CPU. Up until last year they still had two models without optimus or switching and before that they had three and adding to that they also had some more models with desktop CPU's and soldered graphics that were probably using optimus.

 

I think it would be a nice feature to have don't get me wrong but it's a fine balance you have to strike.

 

Indeed hard to say how much such a feature would be appreciated for a gaming laptop but previous generation Clevo laptops were mostly doing double duty as DTR, that goes especially for the 775 and the 751. For a DTR this is a feature that other manufacturers pay a lot more attention to and if HP, Dell, Lenovo and even MSI have some graphic switching in their DTR models it was probably one of the things that held back sales of Clevo DTR's that would usually not last much more than 2 1/2 hours compared to 5 to 10 hours for the other manufacturers.

 

Most people who can afford the bigger DTR can afford the thin laptop or tablet to take with them for a more mobile experience generally.

 

It is not just about being able to afford things. In my case I just find it annoying to switch between devices more often than necessary.

On the other hand if enough people would not care for mobile battery because they use something else if they need to be more mobile then we could also have substantially bigger DTR's but we don't.

 

If you have ever heard of game theory there is such a thing as break points.

Say you have an enemy with 4hp and your gun goes from 2 to 3 damage, it's a 50% increase but wont feel like a difference because it still needs two shots to kill it.

These machines are similar in the sense you go much bigger and it's no longer something you can throw in a bag and plug it into a new location.

 

I am not sure that game theory really helps here unless as an excuse for manufacturers for subpar performance being OK because 100% of desktop performance is not achievable anyway.
And it also seems as if bags have gotten smaller and smaller over the years if we are looking at the development of laptop/notebook sizes.

 

The manufacturers will follow demand, portability is important to people, that's why they are buying a notebook rather than a mini itx build.