Dell XPS M1730 vs. 9261/D901c

what was wrong with the m1730 and what did they fix?

 

WOW the Alienware M17X looks real nice

do u know any othere up coming Gaming laptops ?

I would like a Quad core Laptop
8800 Gtx Ultra
with santa rosa

hhmm what else did i miss

 

Hey lord, Go buy an Alienware... You'll regret it in the end... I know I did..
Come on.. YOu can't even compare a mobile system to a desktop system...

I have a 9261... the dell is a piece in my book...


Joe

 

You've obviously missed the D901C which has all of that. Well except for Santa Rosa, which is slower. But if you want to go slower so be it.

 

There is no question that in terms of Specs and Performance the d901c is the best notebook on the market. I also don't see any moves from the contenders that might take that from it soon ... unfortunately.

You might argue its value proposition thought. For instance, the total cost of ownership is not as low as one would expect when reading the specs, neither you have the Quality Assurance that one might expect from the big brands. International presence is also week leaving one at the mercy of third parties that have little power to deal with complains that go over their responsabilities.

Trance

 

I agree with you. 9261 is the most powerful desktop replacement system. However, if one is looking for a notebook to carry around, a Santa Rosa platform makes more sense especially for gaming. Games are typically GPU limited, so a more powerful processor (eg 3GHz instead of 2.4) makes very little difference. Quad core makes absolutely no difference in games either, most of them do not even utilize dual core.

SLI on notebooks is not officially supported by nVidia, it is up to the manufacturer to produce drivers, and all of them, be it Sager or Dell, are way behind.

So for a portable notebook with good gaming a Clevo 5790 with 8800 is probably the best solution.

 

It all depends on what your needs are. I bring my notebook to a location once a month then pack it up and go home next month. For me the D901C was the obvious choice. Each user has to make that determination on their own.

 

This is short-sighted. Quad Core and SLI are becoming more and more prevalent in these days.

You have to acknowledge the fact that everything will be designed on these platforms and very soon.

You can decide how much you want to 'limit' yourself.

 

Yes, quad-core will become more important in the future, but by the time it starts bringing some advantange in games the 9261 will be obsolete. And even then, GPU is going to have much more impact on games than CPU. There are very few applications today that benefit from quad core, and it is going to take several years before that changes.

I like the idea of SLI but not for notebooks where power and heat are very important. In any case, support from nVidia has been poor. The most annoying thing is that they refuse to support mobile GPUs themselves, forcing the users to go to the notebook manufacturers for drivers. I mean isn't the fact that we have to rely on laptopvideo2go instead of nVidia for up to date drivers bad in itself ?

 

There is much more to the D901C than gaming. I use mine for photo/video editing. A quad core rocks when encoding. If your sole point is to game with it I would seriously look at getting a console system, I mean....they have no problems whatsoever right? RRoD!!

 

I personally have not bought this notebook mainly for gaming. In fact my needs for gaming could be solved with a desktop, but since I needed something powerfull for my work ... I thought why not?

Working with it is a breeze. Something that can be seen live only. For instance, even with SQL Server, IIS, Visual Studio, a Word Document and an Excel Sheet on, calling IE and google for some extra technical info the reponse is immediate. I tried to do the same with a M570RU and it was not so smooth with just a couple of Word Documents open.

Trance

PS: I take everyday the d901c to work and back home.

 

Well my refund from dell for my xps1730 is sat in Xoitic pc's bank account as i await my np9161 and thats all i have to say on this topic.

 

After having gone multiple rounds with HP, Dell, and Sony and their respective customer "service" representatives, the first to get a HDD fixed that was crapping out right out of the box, and the second and third to get what should be easily available technical data on an older (i.e., no longer under warranty) system, as well as the endless heart-ache from trying to get an erroneous billing reversed, the big brands' "quality assurance" promises seem to me to be just more sales puffery without any real substance behind them.

Set that against the apparent fact that, just as the biggies do, Sager will take back a system that has a manufacturing defect and replace it, and that both they and the resellers seem to be much more knowledgeable and, most importantly, much more willing to divulge their knowledge to their customers, and I'd argue that the value proposition is still firmly in favor of the Clevo/Sager systems.

 

i tryed calling dell, but they say that there is no such thing as a "upgrade program" eventhough they've clearly said so. One of the maine reasons why i bought the xps when first released and didnt wait for the 8800's was because of the promise of an "upgrade program". im feelig like ive been cheated ='(

 

you most likely have been cheated... companies will say anything to get you to buy their product. I always go with the fact that you should speak to a person on the fone whenever spending over 2k on ANYTHING!. get their name, get all the facts and have all your questions answered. Now, you CAN argue that you were promised this and see what they can do for you. Considering i assume you have the 8700 in yours, the 8800 just needed a mobo revision from clevo. See if dell did anything similar. How far you get will depend on how nice the sales rep. you get is. Try doing this two or three times. If you get the same person again, hang up quick lol


hah... this reminds me wen i necromanced a thread back to life.. your like 4 months late lol

 

Thanks doodles, ill keep trying. But they can't go around saying one thing to get their product sold and then pretend that no such promise was been made, Isn't that missleading advertisment or sum?