Desktop replacement laptop

Hi there guys
just wanted to ask.

You know how like for laptops you can only upgrade the RAM and the HD?

is it the same for desktop replacement laptops?
I have a Sager 9750V

i mean, can you upgrade the graphic card and stuff?

 

Well as long as they are the same connector type / same socket / same power requirementsm yes.

And... what else do you mean by "stuff"? .

 

Ram - yes
HD - yes
CPU - yes
TV tuner - yes
Wireless card - yes

Graphics card - Maybe. It depends on what the architecture is and whether you can find a new card that is the same. (MXM or whatever)

 

Ram - yes
HD - yes
CPU - yes
TV tuner - yes
Wireless card - yes
Graphics card - YES

The videocard can be purchased through most Clevo vendors [as a special order], RJtech has 7800GTX and 7950GTX for sale.
http://rjtech.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=ACC

They are quite costly though. But if you want to upgrade the videocard, then remember to get the latest BIOS for the unit before doing the upgrade.

 

I wasn't completely wrong... it depends on what chassis you have. In his case, he probably has a 7800, so he could go to a 79xx.

But you wouldn't be able to upgrade to a 8600/8800 when they come out.

And yes, even if you do the install work yourself, it's really not cost effective to be worth it.

 

lolx, i mean if you can upgrade it, thats great

because the other day my friend was asking me
get a desktop instead of a desktop replacement laptop

and i wanted to explain that in desktop replacement laptop, you can also upgrade some components..... but i dont know which

 

i guess, i should rephrase my question

what CAN you upgrade in a desktop replacement laptop
that you CANT upgrade in a laptop

also,
what CAN you upgrade in a desktop PC
that you CANT upgrade in a desktop replacement laptop

 

Well... the answer is surprisingly the same (but general):

It depends on what kind of desktop/notebook:
- from that will determine if the system has more or less proprietary hardware (which is the main restraint for DIY upgrades)


Notebooks:
Most notebooks are created from proprietary barebones (chassis, cooling system, motherboard, and LCD panel.. to a point), then the rest are standardized parts that you can find anywhere:
- CPU
- RAM
- HDD
- Mini-PCI(e) cards for Wi-fi and/or TV-Tuner
- Optical Drive (which could also be proprietary due to the bezel or IC)

As for the upgrading videocards in notebooks, only less than 1% of notebooks have the ability to upgrade/swap out the videocards. These notebooks are usually high-end gaming or media workstation notebooks. They have modular videocard designs (MXM - miniPCI express module) that are there for upgrades or swaps... without having to swap the entire motherboard, like with a typical integrated GPU notebook. [Most notebooks have basic intergrated videocards.]

Clevo [as well as some other select notebook ODMs] have only a few models [high-end/gaming notebooks] with such an ability for upgrading the videocard.

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Desktops:
The same pretty much goes for desktops. If you purchase from mainstream OEMs (like Dell, HP, Compaq, eMachines, etc....), you would see that the case [as well as some of the power supplies], motherboard, and in some cases, cooling systems are all proprietary. The rest of the parts are usually standard:
- CPU
- RAM
- HDD
- PCI(e) slots for expansion cards (and videocards)
- Optical Drive

Most of these proprietary OEM desktops have integrated videocards, but unlike a notebook, there are expansion slots (AGP, PCIe, PCI) for installing a new videocard... but not all of them give you the best kinds of expansion slots [AGP 8x or PCI-E 16x] for GOOD videocards. Most of them will usually leave you with a craptacular PCI slot, which is not worth it to get a gaming videocard for.

Although some smaller OEMs have been making desktops fully industry standard, in that all the parts are upgradeable/swappable with other standardized parts.... which most computer enthusiasts would choose to buy... or just make it themselves.

Personally, I will never be caught owning a proprietary OEM desktop [even if its given to me, I would just salvage the standard parts to build a new custom system]... its just more future-proof (for upgrades) and easier to work with [configurations and the feeling that you know whats in your computer].

Hope this clarifies things for you,
-Gophn

P.S. Now this should be posted in the Hardware Components and Upgrades sub-forum. Its just a very common question.

 

thanks gophn ^_^

oh, what about mine in that case?
Sager model 9750V, can its graphic card be changed?

 

Yes, your Sager 9750 (re-branded Clevo D900K) has a modular videocard that can be upgraded/swapped out.

I know, I have built and own [& also, am currently typing on] this notebook.

The videocard can be purchased through most Clevo vendors [as a special order], RJtech has 7800GTX and 7950GTX for sale.
http://rjtech.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=ACC

 

^5 mans XD

oh yes gophn, what i dont like about this notebook is that
i cant remove the battery (you could but not easily like those slottable ones toshiba have) thus overchargining it

now my battery could only last 10 minutes
but i made a post before saying will it overcharge and some has replied saying that this laptop comes with an inbuilt power disconnector or something like that which allows the battery to be automatically disconnected once its charged to 100% preventing it from overcharging and lowering the maximum battery life capacity.

but now.... my battery's condition....

 

even with an auto power disconnector, one should never keep the power plugged in.

the battery is easy to remove, its the 3 flat screws on the bottom of the notebook (you can use a coin). Although the battery is one of the foots for the notebooks.

I have had my D900K for a little over a year now, my battery is as healthy as it was when I bought it, and I never really remove it.

I just let the notebook discharge when it nears 100%, then plug the power back it when it reached near 5%. Its not a big deal to do... and it has paid off compared to many people who just do not understand the importance of not overcharging (or just taking the battery out and forgetting about it).

So the lesson is to keep your battery healthy but charging it to full, then discharging it, (repeat).

If you are just going to have it stay in one place for a long time, then removing the battery would be fine, but just dont let it sit there for months... because that can also ruin the battery's longevity.

 

yeah i did that as well i suppose
just that sometimes i forget XD

like when you're playing games and such, who monitors the power