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    Did new laptop models arrive recently? Are new models coming soon?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by poorgreeklover, May 10, 2017.

  1. poorgreeklover

    poorgreeklover Notebook Enthusiast

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    There are 2 entries in the News section on the Clevo website that mention the same phrase

    "Dear customers,

    A complete series of new products, ranging from entry value level to high-end performance. Please come and discover how CLEVO can provide innovative solutions to meet your business needs."

    One is about a new product event that happened in Steigenberger Airport Hotel in Frankfurt on May 2nd and 3rd , 2017 and the other is about Computex in the Nangang Hall, 4F, #L1009a from 30th May. to 3rd June.

    I have also seen mentions of P950HP6. Is something new coming soon? When it will be available from resellers? I am interested in buying something in the range of P650/P670/P750/P775 with GTX 1060 6GB and I really don't want to wait more than 1-2 months. Is there a reason to wait at this point, with the hope of getting a new or an existing improved model or a good price cut?
     
  2. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    I went to that event.
    Can expect N130/N131 - 13" aluminium.
    And P950 should be an alternative to current P6, not a replacement, it will be a new full metal chassis, a bit more expensive i think, actually almost the same price, comparing to the P6 you get Thunderbolt but will need to sacrifice the G-SYNC, so that´s it for you.

    To be honest the only model i will probably get is the N130/131. I still have serious doubts about the P950... i don´t know.
     
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    The only new thing I would like to see coming from Clevo is a HEDT (more than consumer quad core) CPU plus dual-GPU successor to the P570WM and a full metal chassis would be ideal for that. Don't care how big and heavy it is... that just makes it even more awesome. If a 17-inch version of the Tornado F5 with desktop CPU and SLI is coming next, they're going to need something of that caliber to maintain their King of the Hill claim to performance fame.
     
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    My dream machine that's no too out of whack would take the NP9153, get a delid deal with intel for the CPU to come without a heatspreader, do direct die cooling to make the chassis thinner. Then have two heatsinks wrapped around the corners with high quality of fans to cool that and an MXM 1080 on an edge connector (again to keep it thin).

    Get a hardware optimus switch and ditch the 2.5" bays for a trio of M.2 slots.

    Fill the rest with battery and speakers.

    A hybrid to actually offer the form factor of the NP81xx series with the performance and modularity of the NP81xx series.
     
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    I would be nice to see a manual graphics switch like Alienware used to use on their 18-inch SLI beasts. If it allowed for on/off/combo options it could be useful for a number of things, including flashing soft-bricked GPUs or still being able to use a machine with no discrete graphics in the event of a hardware failure would be a good thing, too. It could also be useful in the event that battery life actually matters because Intel has everyone beat on that measurement. It would be especially nice if it did not require a software interface (i.e. BIOS selectable and/or an actual physical switch on the motherboard). It would suck if it could only be switched between protocols by software within a Windows environment.
     
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    Count me 100% IN!!
     
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    Whatever come out as long as you can maximize the processor and gpu at 4k dollar, count me in!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    You will always get decent bang for your buck on the high end compared to others :)
     
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    What makes you say that?
     
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    Just because it´s almost the same as a P650 but without G-SYNC and a higher price.
     
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    But lower footprint in weight and size. It's the poor man Razer Blade, at least for European customers where a blade costs an arm and a leg.
     
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    Form factor is a big consideration though as are build materials.
     
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    Yeah guess that´s true... need to consider it :D
     
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    p670hs/hp are phased out by a new upcoming barebones in couple of weeks.
     
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    Hi bro, can you explain this because english isn't my first language? What do you mean "phased out"? Does it mean discontinued, production of 670hs/hp will stop? I was very interested in one so are you saying I should wait until Computex to see the new model? If the new 670hp6 is the 17.3 equivalent of the 970hp6 I don't really like it, my logic says to prefer the bigger size in this case for better thermals, won't the 650hp6 have better thermals than the 950hp6 by the way?
     
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    clevos with amd raven ridge apus and amd rx570?
     
  18. tanzmeister

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    yes, phased out means discontinued and new model will be placed instead of it.

    no, it's not going to be replaced by 970hp. it's going to be another model supporting G-sync
     
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    Ugh, APU + Dgpu combos.
     
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    Intel i7+rx570 like samsung odyssey 17?
     
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    They tried, at least. :oops:
     
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    65W Ryzen 7 please...
     
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    65 real watts or AMD watts?
     
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    As soon as AM4 is available on mobile I'm sure both will be covered.
     
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    I would be interested in a Clevo notebook with 4k HDR screen, a dual core Intel CPU with an embedded high-end GPU (not available on quad cores), and no Nvidia card. That would be great for photo and video work.My present Clevo notebook does have an Nvidia card, but the embedded Intel GPU is always in use. I'm not into gaming, and then an embedded GPU is perfect.

    Of course the rest of the notebook should be high-end as well, the best chipset, good speakers, good connections, perhaps space for two NVMe drives, the lot.

    Any chance we will see such a notebook?
     
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    We have been waiting for such a system for a long, long time. There's no indication that it'll come any time soon.
     
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    Clevo n650du or n350dw don't have a dgpu

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-F516-Flex-i5-6400T-Clevo-N350DW-Notebook-Review.160681.0.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/n650du-reviews.803292/
     
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    Yes, but it is not just that it is lacking a dgpu. It should have a top-of-the-line dual core Intel, those CPUs have far better graphics then any quad core! And it should have a top-of-the-line 17 inch 4k HDR screen, not just any HD screen. The system you are referring to are low-budget notebooks, the notebook I'm looking for is not low budget, despite the fact that it doesn't have a dgpu.
     
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    I'm curious! what cpus?
     
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    @sicily428 Dual Core with Iris Pro gpu. Macbook has them.
     
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    For servers, yes. Don't know about desktops , you may need to dig around.
     
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    The best one is the Intel Core i7 7576U. It has the Iris Plus 650 GPU with 48 execution units instead of the 24 execution units of the HD 630 GPU that is used in the quad cores.
     
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    And extra cache to go with it.
     
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    Yes, and what's also important, it seems that the Intel encoders produce better results than the Nvidia encoders. Higher quality pictures.
     
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    For gameplay recording nvidia had the lead last time I saw.
     
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    Quicksync vs nVidia maybe. CPU vs nVidia no.
     
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    Yes, Quicksync of course. A German magazine did comparing tests, and Quicksync gave much better results in picture quality.
     
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    I think Linus compared this with the Ryzen launch and got different results for quick sync vs nvidia.
     
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    I was trying to remember that test. Don't know about the comparison between QuickSync and nVenc. But CPU encoding is better than the two of them.