Do I have to cancel my order for pascal ?

Recently, I order this on pcspecialist :
Chassis & Display
Defiance Series: 14" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 970M - 3.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
M.2 SSD Drive
240GB KINGSTON SSDNow M.2 2280 G2, SATA 6Gb/s (550MB/R, 330MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Def. Audio + MIC/Headphone + SoundBlaster X-Fi MB3
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-8260 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11AC) + BLUETOOTH
USB Options
4 x USB 3.0 PORTS AS STANDARD
Battery
Defiance Series 3 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (45WH)
Power Cable
1 x European Power Lead & 180W AC Adaptor
Keyboard Language
14" DEFIANCE SERIES BACKLIT FRENCH KEYBOARD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence
Operating System Language
France/République Française - French Language
DVD Recovery Media
Windows 10 (64-bit) Home DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 DAY DELIVERY TO FRANCE (25 €)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days

Price : 1 367,00 €

The question is on the title...

 

Pascal for notebooks hasn't even been announced.

 

But with what we saw for 1070 and 1080 what do you think for mobile variants ?
Is this laptop good for next games in 2016 ? ( BF1 , overwatch, ?)

 

Did BF1 show any gameplay at all? I assume it's on the frostbite 3.5 engine or something like that. Overwatch plays fine on a 970M. I would personally wait. The coming chips will run cooler.

 

Please cancel your order and wait for 6 months at least for Pascal Notebooks to show up. From the performance we've seen lately, it seems like a big improvement and much lower temps.

 

Can't wait 6 months xDD I don't need this much perf and I think that in my country price would increase so much...
I think ill let Pascal gpus for a new tower

 

Then you answered your own question. 970m is still quite powerful, and if you can't wait forever is a good option.

@Phoenix dang 1080 sli is gonna be insane, I think I'll stick with 980 Ti sli for now, but I know I'm gonna wanna upgrade to the 1080 Tis.

 

Yes thanks, I need to know how powerful gtx 1060 can be , if its between gtx 970 and 980 it could be badass

 

If a 1070 beats a 980 Ti the 1060 will almost definitely beat the 970 and probably at least match the 980. That's speculation so don't take it for fact, but its what I would guess. I just can't imagine them cutting it too much compared to the 1070, so around 970-980 level makes sense. But we can't know for sure until we see more real performance numbers.

 

Compared to the Ti yes on temps, it's higher power and higher performance than the GM204. Certainly better performance per watt. But not quite as much as the 980ti over the 980 as the 980 sits on the more efficient part of the curve.

 

then you answered your own question. Get what's best now and enjoy

 

If you want to, and able to, sure. Why not?

 

Going back to this one, with the history of previous Nvidia GPUs, you could take one tier on a generation and it would be similar to the tierdown in the next generation, and it has been fairly consistent. So a 950m = 860m, 960m = 870m, etc etc. So hopefully that is a trend that continues, and that with the numbers they mentioned about the 1080 and 1070 gives some optimism that it might be better? Wait and see... wait and see....

 

The current machines are not going to suddenly stop working when anything new launches of course

 

That depends on NVIDIAs driver magic...

 

We better stop saying this, the vendors might get the idea that they can disable previous issued hardware to force us to purchase new stuff,

The "Pro-Consumerism Business Stimulus Legislation of 2018"; "...a chicken in every pot, a new laptop in every lap, and VR Blinders on every head!!"

When Moore's Law runs out, the new Law of the Land will be Forced Obsolescence.

...

 

It's pretty much the worst time to buy a new laptop.

If you really need one, then you must get one, but otherwise make a new desktop with the 1080/1070 card(s) and wait.

The performance improvement / difference is so pronounced for the desktop 1080/1070 vs 980/etc vendors are already doing high $$$ rebates to sell out the last generation stock they have on hand.

You might wait as long as you can for the laptop GPU's to at least be announced, so the same rebates take effect for the 960m/965m/970m/980m laptops.

 

I'm sure there are some companies out there that would love to do that, Sager is not one.

 

This is too late, I will get my order tomorrow

 

I think you will be pleased to have it

 

Waiting for Pascal Mobile means waiting at least 5 to 6 month if we're basing ourselves on the same schedule Nvidia used for Maxwell 980M.

It all depends on what you need, if your defiance (I also ordered my computer from PCspecialist, they're good I like them ), was bought in order to play all game High 2x MSAA, don't wait...

but if you're seeking VR, playing at 1440p, and extreme performance, yes Pascal is worth the wait.

You got yourself a nice computer, have fun with it ! And don't worry about pascal and stuff, plus a defiance pascal version would cost way more in october .

 

That was the purpose of my order ;d I think that this pc can handle 1440p60 ultra with my games ( diablo,tf2, overwatch ?)
( Damn my pickup station is closed today I can't get my laptop T_T)

 

Diablo 2 should be able to run at higher resolution on a good amount of cards, as it is a bit of an older game and not that demanding. Overwatch might require something a bit higher to run at a higher resolution, whether it is a graphics card higher up in the 900 series, or whatever Pascal brings, not sure on those yet.

 

TF2 yes, Overwatch maybe not...it's quite fast paced, lot of animations etc. Don't know if it can run on 1440p/60fps, the engine powering the game was built from scratch by Blizzard?

Early benchmarks place the GTX 970 epic/1440p with 54 to 64 fps. So if you slightly lower the settings, (high not epic, and 2xAA) it might run good. Blizzard and NVidia will release optimisation patches too so yeah it might run well.

 

Sure, easily. You might see lower than 60 FPS in Overwatch with those settings, but it should still be playable. D2 doesn't support that resolution; it'll scale down to the highest it does support.. I don't know whether TF2 and Overwatch do or not.

 

D2 has a mod that lets it run any resolution your system will support.

 

Overwatch will need some detail changes, 1440p is a lot more demanding than 1080p.

 

Nice! Kind of tempts me to reinstall and go make another kicksin build.

 

I received it today !

 

Very shiny

 

Congrats! You'll have to let us know what you think about it after you give it a spin. Enjoy!

 

My new laptop is thinner, lighter, way FAASTER than my old msi gx70 ( the laptop behind the new)
Edit : God this laptop install Windows update in 3 minutes xD ( my old one took one night xD)

 

What was the overall length of time it took to receive your laptop from when you made payment?
I ordered this laptop in end of April but cancelled 2 days later because my hunch said pascal was going to be sooner than first thought around October. Plus I still have my "Optimus vi" with 960m which I guess is doing ok for what I'm playing and owned a 970m twice prior. But I did want this laptop a lot. But hope pascal comes in this laptop.

 

Hate to break it to you. But if you're into Fallout 4 and Doom (2016), or pretty much any games from major studios released this year then better get yourself equipped with Pascal lol. My 980M is struggling with Fallout 4 maxed out FHD. 4K is almost unplayable

 

Yeah, 4k is still best on a higher end desktop card. Hopefully Pascal will change that, but we still have to wait to see what is coming to notebooks.

 

4K I can understand, but it's "struggling" on FHD? I would think most configurations would be landing a good 50 - 60 FPS in that game with a 980M.

 

I would agree. Maybe try not maxing out every setting, and maybe lowering a couple settings, might help it still run at ultra high settings at good frames.

 

It's going to depend on detail settings and thermals as to how performance is going to be, a solid 1080p should be well within reach.

 

Lol sorry I didn't specify. But who would play Fallout 4 on PC without some of the most amazing mods out there? Yeah some of them may have impacts on graphics.

 

By any chance did you put the LOD and view distance at max ? Imagine an open world game where everything is rendered in a 10Km (sorry metric system I'm from France ^^) radius...

My 980M offers honorable performance on the game, but again I never max out AA and textures distances, everything else ultra-ed.

 

Well mods tend to prioritize looks over performance.

 

Well maxed-out gaming without compromise is the whole point that me (and I'm sure many others) are into these beasts now isn't it? Pascal is on track to be a lot less compromising than previous gens to me.

 

Well it certainly has a process advantage.

 

Ah, that makes more sense. No worries!