Does anyone know why Sager 9260 does not support 8700M in SLI?

Hi Does any one know why the Sager 9260 can't support the Nvidia 8700M GT in SLI mode even tho they just have one NVIDIA 8700M GT?

 

they are probably waiting, thats like putting two 7900gs's in sli right now, why would someone do that when you can do 7950gtx's or something better, there wil be a new card released soon.

 

I disagree completely. There's no reason not to introduce 8700's in SLI when a single card configuration is currently offered.

8700GT is best mobile DX10 GPU atm and there's no reason not to have it in SLI configuration. The new Dell XPS model coming out is supposedly 8700's in SLI.

I believe there's a technical issue holding this up. Maybe it's resolved with mobo rev 5.x but I suspect not as the clevo website shows 5.x features (i.e. quad) but not 8700's in SLI.

 

Hi Kozi I just made a order for the Sager 9260 so does this mean that we are out of luck for the mobo rev 4. to have 8700GT in SLI mode or should I cancel the order or maybe when it comes out they will have a bios up date for us to support 8700GT in SLI.

 

the boards are the same except for the safe support for quad-cores.

no change in the MXM-IV (SLI) setup from what was announced.

 

I ordered my 9260 on Sept 4th, about 1 day after the 9260's went on back order. I was pretty upset with that development, but it seems it may be to our benefit.

I've sent almost daily emails to Xotic -- their support is simply awesome. That latest information I received from Justin on Friday stated that they did not have any details about the new 9260 shipment on Sept 24th. He assured me that the website would be updated when further information is available.

I can confirm that the back order is universal across all Clevo resellers. I called around as soon as I learned about the back order trying to find left-over stock. None existed.

Just yesterday Eurocom mentioned that the back order was due to the elimination of the 4.x stock. We're simply waiting for the rev 5.x models to arrive now. This makes sense to me and I hope it's true!

I sent an email to Xotic on Friday stating that I want to upgrade from a E6700 to a Q6600 if these 9260's are indeed 5.x revision . I'll also upgrade to 8700's in SLI if they are magically available with rev 5.x. I mentioned in other posts that I don't believe 8700's in SLI will be available due to the info at the Clevo website. Here's to hoping though!

 

Hi Kozi wow thanks for the good info so that mean that for sure that I am going to get the revision 5.x motherboard in our system. I will also be waiting for the 8700's in SLI when they are ready for our system I hope they will come out with it soon and even better hopefully they will ship the 8800M in SLI format when NVIDIA comes with it.

 

yes its the best at the moment but its middle range card, not a enthusiust card. did people put 7600's in SLI because they were the best at the time. NO they did not. Also the new dell configuration was either one 8700, one 8700gtx ultra/8800? or SLI of the latter.


actually i lied, it does "CLAIM" there will be 8700 SLI but you couldnt be more stupid to do that, 7950 gtx's cost the same and are better. directx 10 is not worth it and the 8xxx series are labrats.

 

Actually the 8700's are $100 USD cheaper than the 7950's (when offered). DX10 may not be worth while to you, but to others it is. It pays to have offerings to all customers, not just those satisfied with DX9.

The 8700 is not a bad card at all. It doesn't have the bandwidth to compete with 7950's at 1920x1200, no one is disputing that. But it's still a good card and two in SLI will be able to handle everything on the game market today. You'll also gain some longevity in order to enjoy DX10 games down the road.

DX10 and Vista are still very new as far as technology goes. You'll see improvements in drivers as time goes by. The Vista driver model is more efficient than XP. Also DX10 drops the legacy baggage and therefore is not burdened by supporting previous versions of DX. The DX9L driver in Vista is a separate animal. Anyway enough on debating this. The bottom line is not all customers want the same thing. So what's 'stupid' to you is utopia for others.

Lastly, the Clevo website does not claim that 8700's are in SLI. If you look at the D900/901C spec page you'll see the 7950's on the left side with SLI clearly mentioned. The 8700 is on the right side with no mention of SLI.

 

How can it be middle range,? when official statement from Nvidia website in-your-face says:

"The GeForce 8700M GT is the world’s first DirectX® 10 graphics processor for enthusiast notebooks delivering unparalleled visual realism and performance. For the serious gamer, notebook PCs users with GeForce 8700M GT will experience gaming in a whole new way..."

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8700m.html

NVidia needs to make right their claim and thus user high expectation of unparalleled high-end enthusiast gpu.

 

Dude, they still have claims like that for cards that aren't even being considered high end anymore in Central Africa.

 

i have a Q? im looking to get the 9260
Intel core 2 duo e6700 2.66Ghz w/4mb L2 cache - 1066MHz FSB
SLI Dual (2) 512MB PCI-express nVidia GeForce 7950GTX w/GDDR3 vidio card
4,096MB DDR2 800 (2SODIMMS) Dual channel Memory (w/vista64bit only)
combo 8x8x6x4x Dual layer DVD+/R/RW 5x DVD-ram 24x CD-R/RW drive w/software
2x 160GB Seagate Momentus 3GB/S SATA 300 7200rpm HD
Raid 0
internal 7in1 Card reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MSPro Duo/SD/mini-SD/MMC/RS)
Built in 1.3 meg.pix camera
sound Blaster compatible 3d Audio
intergrated System Speakers
internal blue tooth 2.0+edr
built in intel PRO/wireless 4965 802.11 a/g n
basic black case
Smart LI-ion batt. (12cell)
110/220v 120w auto switching ac adaper
Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit installed (CD included)w/Drivers &utilities Cd's
2yrs parts/labor warranty 24/7 tech support w/LCD accidental damage protection

for $3844.12

i am waiting for the 9261 to come out at the end of the week to see what the price difference is. ?1. If i go with vista ultimate 64bit in the 9260 and a put geforce 2x7950 Gtx sli, will it work?
"Video & Graphics Card
Nvidia GeForce 8700M GT Graphics with 512MB DDR3 Video Memory [-$595.00] Single card solution only, SLi will not be supported under any OS / Hardware condition.
Single Nvidia GeForce GO 7950 GTX MXM IV Graphics with 512MB DDR3 Video Memory [-$495.00]
Dual Nvidia GeForce GO 7950 GTX MXM IV Graphics with 512MB DDR3 Video Memory in SLI mode Windows Vista does not support SLI mode for dual graphics configuration!"

 

sager is the only site that says it wont I'm "confused" and will the 9261 support it

 

sorry for the spams but i have read the other related posts and found the answers. thx. just wondering if i shound buy (2)7950gtx or one till 8800 comes out?

 

Wait wait wait, the 8700 ain t worth it and the 7950 gtx is out the door soon. Get one now and upgrade when two powerfull cards come up, anyway u wont gain much by going sly right now anyway... and 2 7950 didn t beat 1 8800 on the pc site...laptop will have to wait... but rumors are there is a release coming soon for the 8800 m so wait

 

The 8800 will NEVER be in a laptop!

Have you done any research on the 8800?

It takes two external power connectors and consumes 180W. It's also about 12" long.

Other posts in these forums have referred to the new high-end mobile 8-series as the 8700GTX (note the 'X'). Never has it been referred to as the mobile 8800. Whatever it is, I wouldn't expect it to be a landslide in performance above the mobile 8700. It's still the same architecture (otherwise it would be a 9-series .

Taking your logic, no one should buy a lappy until 2010 -- I hear the 11-series GPUs will be out about then!

 

ofcouse it will, just a a downgraded version of it, its already been announced, it wont be as a powerful as th real deal but it will much more than 7950 gtx! Also the 8700 has only 256 bit architecture, while the 7950 gtx is 128... not worth it.

 

I find it funny that nVidia scored such a hit with their 79xx mobile architecture that it refuses to be beaten, even years after its release. Maybe they should just come out with a 7955GTX, with a die shrink, upped clocks and some more pipes and call it a day. Seems like it would be easier than fit a 180W card into a laptop. I mean, if you keep die shrinking a 7950 to the point it could fit into a 15", there would be people lined up like rabid piranhas for it, myself included.

 

wellit obviously wont be 180 watts, like said above it will be a downgraded version for sure to fit power requirements. if they released a 8700gt with a 256bit bus it would be better than the 7950gtx. its clocks are higher but its limited by the bus. i dont know how much more power it takes to double the bus though.

 

As I said in a previous post, don't be so quick to call something 'stupid' or 'not worth it' just because you don't agree with it.

The 8700GT has the advantages of DX10, lower power, and hardware video decoding. It's not a bad card at all. The only limitation is the 128bit memory bus (which is slightly alleviated by using two in SLI .

You can play the 'sit and wait' game forever... that's the nature of technology. No one has any clue what the 8700GTX will bring to the party. If you're in the market for a laptop now, then buy what best suits your needs.

Currently I have a 9260 on order with 2x 7950 in SLI. I would change to 8700's in SLI immediately if they were available... hands down.

 

you shouldn't compare desktop cards and notebook cards, buy your logic dual sli 7950 GTX shouldn't even be near possible in notebooks without at least a 300 watt adapter, but they did it, and if you do your research you will find that Nvidia have made an 8800 for laptops that only consumes 22w. Its obviously not as powerfull as its desktop counter part, but its pretty damn fast.

 

The 8700 is 35W. Can you post your link to the information stating that the 8800 mobile is 22W? Or maybe just post a link that even mentions a mobile 8800?

Also the desktop 7950 started at 85W (not 180W like the current 8800).

 

Yeah, I'd be interested as well

 

(don't hold your breath.... and clean up that eye .

 

But it adds character and chicks dig scars!!

 

i do remmember and i cannot get the link, that there was supposed to be a lower end, like a 8800gs that was 22watts.

 

here you go

http://laptoplogic.com/news/detail.php?id=2522

and a google search of 8800m 22 watts should also yield some discussions on the subject

 

Interesting that all the google results are based upon a single source here:

http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=40032

And that this single source says the chip will be out "later this summer"... well that's now. Personally I think it's not legit. Plus the 22W seems ridiculously low for a GPU that will be the "most powerful chip for notebook market".

Also the picture on your link is a fake. That's a different CPU with a "nvidia" label slapped on top .

Usually there's an advance announcement by nVidia on these things... just like they did with 8400 and 8600 release. If this is suppose to be out this summer, there would have been a press release already.

I'm sure I can think of some other reasons it sounds fake... but at the same time who doesn't want a super sweet 8800M .

 

lol, I just figured it out... those are the 8700's .

The article mentions them as NB8E (SE, GT, and GTX). Well the NB8E is the mobile 8700! We already have the GT. And Gophn has a great post on the 8700GTX due out in Winter. See this post on the NB8E by Wu Jen:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=2398401

So this is the same news that you already know... the 8700 is the enthusiast card in the Mobile 8 series. I'm excited to see the GTX but if 8700's arrive in SLI on the 9260 I'll take them ;-).

The 22W is misinformation as well since we already know the 8700M consumes 35W.

 

maybe there will be a lower end 8700....althoguh that would be the same as a 8600gt and would be pointless..