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    Driver for 8800M GTX that does not suck?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by _GZ_, Feb 25, 2008.

  1. _GZ_

    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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    I have tried them all soon, including the clevo and sager driver variants.

    Most of them make my favorite race sim game GTR2 pause/stutter every 5-10 seconds even though the fps is excellent. It is impossible to complete a lap without a mistake or crash.

    Two drivers work (169.28 and 174.16) but they have lousy results in 3Dmark, about half compared to the stuttering brand ones (score 4600 vs 8900).

    In conclusion, this is catastrophical after buying one of the most sophisticated and expensive gaming laptops out there. Who is to blame, nVidia or Clevo?
    :mad:

    Please, does anyone have a working graphics driver? Without stutter and with good performance?
     
  2. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Nvidia is.
    Try 167.44 , as people seem to use those for their 88M GTXs.
     
  3. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    I have the same problem as you. Ill try to unistall the drivers completely from the system through safe mode and reinstall the drivers on the CD. Then ill modd the INF. Btw, what OS are you using?
     
  4. _GZ_

    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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    It was late here and I forgot, of course the OS is vital. I have a freshly installed Vista Home Premium 32 bit with all updates. XP seems better compared to Vista when talking about stuttering.

    I have tried all Clevo related drivers including 167.44. Like the rest, it stutters like where your avatar is from I'm afraid.

    Edit:
    What do you mean? Do you mod the OEM driver? In what way do you mod it? None of the two drivers on the CD works without stuttering, neither do drivers from Sager.
     
  5. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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  6. _GZ_

    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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    I couldn't install them last time I tried and there are no modded inf at laptopvideo2go for this one. But I will try again now.

    Edit:
    I could install them now, but there is the same stuttering. (And the 3Dmark score strangly was only 4586.)
     
  7. Ufoman

    Ufoman Notebook Enthusiast

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  8. _GZ_

    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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  9. Doxie

    Doxie Notebook Consultant

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    your not the only one with the problem.
    im on vista x86 (32 bit oem)
    laptop: M570RU-U

    i have tried many different drivers:

    167 series
    171 series
    173 series
    and 174 series using modded inf from laptopsvideo2go.

    i have tried to install 167.55 from alienware but cant due to not being an alienware PC.

    So i tried to install 167.55 from laptopsvideo2go, but when i try to install but there is an error saying i need to be on 32 bit vista. which i am. so wtf at that.

    167.44 downclocks my card, but as far as i know that only fixes the refresh rate bug which i dont have so, im not too bothered.

    all others i tired downclock my card from the stock 500/800 mhz to 275/380 (or something close to that) hence the low scores on 3d mark 06.

    so best drivers i am using is stock drivers: 167.44 which i can overclock preety well with and my games works a treat with it.

    Might post benchmarks of my 8800MGTX overclocked if i find the time to compile them all.
     
  10. _GZ_

    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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    I have the same system as you. Clevo M570RU-U and 167.44 also makes the game stutter. GTR2 is not driveable with any stock drivers. And the rest seem to downclock the graphic card yes. Very sad.

    Edit:
    I can confirm 174.16 downclocks the card to 275 and 300. Does it somehow limit thinking it is in power save? Could it be fixed somehow in the .inf file?
     
  11. naticus

    naticus Notebook Deity

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    yeah every driver i have tried downclocks my card as well, vista ultimate x86, 8800m. I wonder will we ever get a good driver that will improve preformance?
     
  12. Doxie

    Doxie Notebook Consultant

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    yah im starting to think the same thing,
    clevo hardly ever update its drivers,
    thats why we rely on laptopsvideo2go.

    but if the modified drivers arent working for the 8800MGTX, we may be stuck with stock drivers for a long while yet...
     
  13. naticus

    naticus Notebook Deity

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    man i hope nvidia starts getting there ass off the floor and making some WHQL drivers for this card.
     
  14. mcpenguin

    mcpenguin Notebook Consultant

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    Ok I'm new to the whole laptopvideo2go thing. What driver could you guys recomend for the 9262 using XP pro. I've been using stock drivers which seem to be fine except for some very minor graphical glitches I've seen in oblivion. I updated to the most recent video drivers from the sager site but I feel like my fps has gone down slightly (not too sure about this) Is the stock driver the best one to use for XP pro?
     
  15. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Also remember to update your DirectX 9 to the latest version for XP.
    I think November 2007 is the latest DX9 update.
     
  16. mcpenguin

    mcpenguin Notebook Consultant

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    how do you check for what version of directx you have?
     
  17. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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  18. scooberdoober

    scooberdoober Penguins FTW!

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    Wow, this is inexcusable, and until and if it gets fixed I'm obviously not going to be considering the purchase of the Sager 5793 with the 8800!
     
  19. realitybias

    realitybias Notebook Enthusiast

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    Seriously. Everyone was telling me to go for the 5793. I'm not doing it if all of these guys are having so much trouble.
     
  20. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    the next driver is almost out.

    You should see the new version anytime now.
     
  21. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Spires Notebook Geek

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    I had this trouble once when I was messing with different drivers, eventually I had to restore back to an earlier time to fix the speed issue. Then uninstalled Ntune and Rivatuner. I have since installed the very latest 174 driver and it keeps the clocks.
     
  23. naticus

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    tried the 167.44 w/8800m , cut my performance in half...hmm only thing working with 100% is stock clevo 167.43.
     
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    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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    Do you have Vista 32 bit? Is it 174.16 you are using?

    When I open Ntune the clock seem ok, but in actual gaming the clock never passes 300 MHz. How do you make the clock speed raise while gaming?

    I believe it is only Vista + Clevo + 8800M that is corrupt. People with XP I think have good performance without downclocking or stuttering?
     
  26. Doxie

    Doxie Notebook Consultant

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    for me

    its no big deal that the drivers out there arent compatible with the 8800M gtx
    cuz the stock so far has worked with my games perfectly, plus crazy overclocking.

    but it is nice if we were ble to update it if we wanted to see any performance improvments and fix any issues which my arise in newer games.
     
  27. Rorschach

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    Nope, I use xp and can't even install most drivers including the new ones.
     
  28. dundersten

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    isnt the 169 good? i get 9500 in 3dmark with t9500 and 8800
     
  29. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    wow, thats really good.
     
  30. _GZ_

    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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    It might be good in 3Dmark, but that's not what I play.
    ;)
    Despite good fps for instance race sim GTR2 stutters/pauses every 5-10 seconds with all drivers except 169.28 and 174.16 (so far), but instead thy downclock 8800M to a medioker card.
    :confused:
     
  31. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    did you update GTR to the latest patch?

    and is your DirectX the latest version?
     
  32. SupremeTaco

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    My driver version says 6.14.11.6740...
    is that any good? I'm quite befuddled with all these numbers!
     
  33. _GZ_

    _GZ_ Notebook Consultant

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    Yes I have the only patch for GTR2.

    I guess I have the latest version of directX? My Vista is freshly installed including all updates. What version is the latest directX and how do I check my version?
     
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    I have exactly the same problem, all drivers except these two and 169.32 downclock the card. Strange.
     
  36. Rorschach

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    I get 9400 in 3dmark 06, but I don't care about 3dmark just in game performance. So far the stock drivers work fine, but they are already 3 months old.
     
  37. dundersten

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    wow thats amazing!!! 9400000 in 06? congrats with new world record :D
     
  38. eleron911

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    There are over 10k results out there with the 88M GTX, stock.

    Lol.
     
  39. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    the scores that are "out there" are usually done under optimized and stripped down OS's to get best possible scores.

    anything over 8000 in 3DMark06 is great.
     
  40. Spires

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    I got 10.6k with bone stock 8800M clocks. To get that score I overclocked my processor a bit though.
     
  41. Spires

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    When you guys install the newer drivers, are you using hacked INf. files? I took the latest driver, unpacked it and used the "Have Disk" method and forced a regular 8800GTX driver install. It works Perfectly! There seems to be little to no difference with the 8800M and a desktop 8800 GTX. I have been using the 174 driver with all the latest games at full clocks just fine. If it does not work, just roll your machine back using restore, thats what I did.
     
  42. dazzyd

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    how did you overclock your CPU on your Np9262..??
     
  43. Doxie

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    there is a new 1.67.62 driver out from clevo, download from here.
    its MS WHQL Certificatified, and supports 8800MGTX natively, hope it works.

    i will download and see if it fixes our strange problem

    edit: still downclocks the card to 275/301
     
  44. dundersten

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    why cant we just use normal desktop drivers?
     
  45. Prasad

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    There must be some crucial functional difference between them, I guess.. :)
     
  46. naticus

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    yeah im thinking the same thing here
     
  47. Rorschach

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    Went to the nvidia site and used the auto detect to select the best driver and it told me to go to alienware.com lol. Here is what it said

    Alienware requires that you download the driver for your GPU from their support site.

    You can find more information at: http://www.alienware.com/.

    The GeForce M series and GeForce Go series notebook GPUs use drivers that have been customized by the notebook manufacturers to support hot key functions, power management functions, lid close and suspend/resume behavior. NVIDIA has worked with some notebook manufacturers to provide notebook-specific driver updates, however, most notebook driver updates must come from the notebook manufacturer. Additionally, the desktop GeForce graphics drivers will not install on Geforce M series and Quadro M series notebook GPU's.
     
  48. naticus

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    you can romstrap it with riva tuner and put desktop drivers on it, but im not sure it will work better than stock drivers.
     
  49. duane123

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    With my old Inspiron 8500 I always got the best performance forcing installation of the desktop drivers. The drivers on the Dell site got updated like once, so I tried forcing the desktop ones and it worked great.

    Granted this is 5 year old tech we are talking about, so things have probably changed. May be worth giving it a try and then rolling back though.
     
  50. Doxie

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    Belive me, i have tried dektop drivers, they all underclock the card.

    i have tried 167.55, and that still underclocks the card. lol, the situation is making me crack up.
     
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