EON17-X have QHD 2540 x 1440 17.3" IPS 120Hz G-SYNC Matte Display?

So I was looking for an answer for this guy in the WNSIB section who is looking for a QHD IPS for a 17 inch laptop so I look around from resellers like Hidevolution, XoticPC and Eurocom but it would seems none of them offers such screen (QHD IPS) what they have is QHD AUO 120Hz w/GSYNC (assuming its a TN?)

However I went to ORIGINPC and found that they have "QHD 2540 x 1440 17.3" IPS 120Hz G-SYNC Matte Display" for their EON17-X (also known as P870DM).

So I'm both curious and kind of surprised...can someone confirm it though if ORIGINPC really offer such screen display?

Could it be just an error or a typo?

 

Why not just ask Origin directly? In my decade plus of activity on this forum, I've maybe seen less than 10 people who have purchased Origin notebooks. Most folks in the know here generally regard them as a severely overpriced purveyor of Clevo-based systems.


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I would if I'm in the U.S, I emailed them and waiting for a response. I agree with you that ORIGINPC is overpriced and I wouldn't bother with them however when I saw that they offer QHD IPS 120Hz w/GSYNC It got my attention, however I have the feeling that its a typo though.

 

Here is my experience with Origin PC:

Ordered an Origin PC Millennium Desktop for $9,000 USD in June. Took them a month to build/ship it, half of the customer notes I mentioned in my order in the way to install the OS were ignored. The so called overclocking service I paid for was just a small 200 mhz overclock of a 5930K CPU, the only thing they changed is set a voltage offset of -0.185. Really? $50 USD for this?

Secondly, I had to constantly email and call to get any updates about my PC, not once did they send me an update. I know I am not their only customer but when you pay $9000 USD for a system you expect a bit of attention/care.

When I sold the machine 3 months later as I didn't like the idea of having a bulky desktop, I called them to transfer the warranty to the new owner and they said no can do. Warranties cannot be transferred.

Never again will I buy anything from that company.

If you are an international customer like me, I advice you to buy from HIDevolution, they have a global warranty option that covers shipping costs both ways should anything go wrong with your system. Additionally, they have the fastest RAM options and best SSD options up to the latest Samsung 960 PRO 2TB

Read these threads please:

HIDevolution - The Best Company I ever dealt with

HIDevolution's Warranty!
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These are the ones with the QHD 120hz/5ms panels:

EVOC P750DM2-G 15.6" Custom Built Gaming Laptop w/ nVIDIA GTX 1060 or GTX 1070

EVOC P775DM3-G 17.3" Custom Built Gaming Laptop w/ nVIDIA GTX 1060, 1070 or 1080

EVOC P870KM1 17.3" Custom Built VR Ready Gaming Laptop w/ 1x or 2x GTX 1080

EVOC P870DM3 17.3" Custom Built VR Ready Gaming Laptop w/ 1x or 2x GTX 1080

If you email [email protected] with the configuration you want and tell him your NBR Forums username, you can get a small discount


PS: Origin PC is not a Prema Partner so you won't get the great Prema BIOS, without the Prema BIOS, these laptops are worthless IMHO as they throttle down to 2.5 GHz the moment there is any load simultaneously on the CPU/GPU like in a game or graphics benchmark......

HIDevolution are a Prema Partner so you will get the Prema Partner out of the box for free

Benefits of Prema BIOS:

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  • Fixes the biggest issue with these Clevo laptops where they would throttle the CPU as low as 2.5 GHz the moment both the CPU & GPU are under load due to current issues with the Clevo Stock BIOS/EC Firmware.
  • The ability to disable other drives connected to your system without physically removing them from your laptop, this comes in handy when installing Windows as you never want to have more than one drive connected at the time you are installing Windows otherwise the Windows setup will place the boot files on the 2nd drive it sees which hurts performance and makes it a headache when creating system images or restoring since the boot files are not on the main drive.
  • The ability to overclock, increase Turbo Power Limits and System IA/Core Current Limits
  • The ability to enable Intel Speed Shift Technology (it is disabled in the stock BIOS)
  • The ability to run RAM with speeds higher than the standard 2133 MHz. I am not talking about overclocking here, I am talking about actual RAM sticks that are rated to run at 2800 MHz for example like the G.Skill 64GB 2800 MHz kit I have. With the stock BIOS, they will not run above 2400 MHz. In the case of the P870DM3, the stock BIOS now supports up to 2666 MHz. I believe but not more, so the Prema BIOS is a must again
  • Fixes the instability with the G.Skill 3000 MHz. RAM using XMP Profile 1 with timings of 16-18-18-18 where in the stock BIOS you would have constant crashes or not be able to boot altogether so you’re forced to use XMP Profile 2 which is slower with 18-18-18-18 timings.
  • The ability to enable CSM for those who want to install other OSes like Windows 7
  • The ability to undervolt the CPU as the stock voltage is way too high which causes the CPU to overheat much quicker and thus throttle under load.
  • The ability to enable or disable CPU AES instructions or Virtualization
  • The ability to disable hibernation from the BIOS
  • Sets the default keyboard lights from blue to white which suits more tastes

Benefits of Prema VBIOS:

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  • Power throttle disabled
  • Over-voltage slider enabled and adjusted (up to a maximum of 1.2v)
  • Activated and adjusted thermal slider (to keep it cooler if desired)
  • Core overclock slider limit raised
  • Power consumption meter activated
  • Fixed 3D voltage base-line in order to stabilize OCs and voltage-match both cards in SLI systems (based on average ASIC)
  • Thermal protection @ 92c (once*91c are breached the system throttles volts and clocks in order to protect it)
  • Protection against Furmark and Kombustor GPU burnout (AVOID those software even with stock vBIOS)!

 

I already know all about this bro but thanks for the informative response. The only thing that got my attention is the QHD IPS 120Hz w/GSYNC (take note QHD IPS not AUO -- assuming AUO is TN? correct me if I'm wrong) whilst the other resellers doesn't offer QHD IPS for (P870DM/PK870M) while ORIGINPC does? Too good to be true? Error? Typo?

 

oh sorry, I missed that. I haven't heard of an IPS that can do more than 75hz

just get the actual screen name from them. Tell them to run AIDA64 it will show the exact screen model

 

It's okay bro, now this I want to ask them, I'm sending them an email now.

 

Best bet is to ask them directly as suggested, which I've seen you are doing but I can also answer:

- the EON-17X uses the P775 chassis, their EON-17SLX uses the P870 chassis

- the 1440p 120Hz panel is the AUO B173QTN01.0 - same as what we offer (bear in mind if it's G-Sync 120Hz this means future support for NVSR which is hardware controlled G-Sync to 120Hz, the panels have to be validated by Nvidia)
- the 4K panel is the AU B173ZAN01.0 , IPS G-Sync but 60Hz, not 120Hz.
- for reference, the 17.3" FHD IPS 60Hz G-Sync panel is model AUO B173HAN01.2

These are all standard options (depending on the chassis) from Clevo.

Technically, IPS was patented by Hitachi and later used by other companies such as LG. An AUO IPS panel is legally an AUO AHVA (Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle) display but inessence it's the same as IPS. The above 4K and FHD panels are IPS/AHVA, the other 1440p is not AHVA but TN with wide viewing film which is part of the glass (not just a plastic film thrown on the top!.

 

Great info, thanks for sharing! Especially the historical ownership and patents linked to IPS & AHVA

 

@XMG

Both the 4K and the FHD panels are AHVA. Only the 1440 panel is TN. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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It's likely a typo if referring to the 1440p screen. I'm not aware of mobile high refresh rate 1440p AVHA/IPS panels at this time.

 

Thanks, I changed the wording at the bottom of my post but I did state at the top of the post in the main bullet points:

 

I hope I won't be among those who have to add horror stories about their Origin PC laptop, during Black Friday they basically were like $400 below competitors, and since they took their sweet time putting it together (almost 2 months), they gave me a 4-year warranty. Not sure how much that is worth, because I've already experienced their half-assed mode of doing business, so that $400 saving may cost me in the long run.

 

I sent an email inquiring about this and got a reply that it is a ips panel! Not sure though if this is 100% correct. Planning on getting this unit on them just waiting for overclock processor and 3000 mhz memory!

 

Ask them if they can give you the model number for the panel ? Then you can do a Panel lookup to confirm. Never heard of a 1440p 120HZ IPS panel from any other reseller.

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No way, it doesn't exist!

 

I second the above...I had no clue such a thing existed. This would change a lot for me. Tomorrow I'll try and live chat with them and see if I can get a model #.

This would be the only panel of it's type, on a socketed laptop that's SLI capable...If the response times are good enough for 120hz (8ms i believe) then this is huge.

I just have a sinking feeling that it's a typo and they have it confused with the normal AUO panel that we all know about already. It makes no sense, not gonna get my hopes up.

 

rule of thumb when buying clevo

if the reseller does not have any significant presence in NBR, don't do it

 

Could you elaborate on that sir. Just curious on your opinion.

 

best advice given!

Origin PC does not exist on these forums! From my experience with them.......I'll never ever want to deal with this company ever again......

My past experience with them:

Ordered an Origin PC Millennium Desktop for $9,000 USD in June. Took them a month to build/ship it, half of the customer notes I mentioned in my order in the way to install the OS were ignored. The so called overclocking service I paid for was just a small 200 mhz overclock of a 5930K CPU, the only thing they changed is set a voltage offset of -0.185. Really? $50 USD for this?

Secondly, I had to constantly email and call to get any updates about my PC, not once did they send me an update. I know I am not their only customer but when you pay $9000 USD for a system you expect a bit of attention/care.

When I sold the machine 3 months later as I didn't like the idea of having a bulky desktop, I called them to transfer the warranty to the new owner and they said no can do. Warranties cannot be transferred.

Never again will I buy anything from that company.

 

I think it's completely fine to purchase from companies who do not have reps on this forum to be honest - though it's a great place to get feedback and discuss the models, there are other forums (for exmaple notebookcheck) where we have a much larger community. As you will see from the reseller reviews for XMG on nbr, there really aren't that many but then again the N. America isn't a market we operate in but I hope that the posts we make here help people out with information and advice. There are a lot of reputable companies who aren't on here, maybe they have their own forums where you can get feedback from or maybe they are just not keen on promoting themselves as using Clevo chassis (though we use several ODMs and not just Clevo). there are also lots of other places you can get feedback, for example Trusted Shops or other companies own forums - but at the same time there are good and bad stories about almost every company you can find. An individual experience with one company can have far reaching impacts and I think everyone completely understands why this would stop someone thinking about purchasing from that same company again in the future. Then again there will be a lot of very happy customers who never post their experiences online, tbh I'd say that something rediculous like 0.005% of our customers post a customer testimonial on a forum each month!

 

Well, I guess I learned sort of the hard way, but I decided to get my P870DM3 from Origin, known as the SLX 17 on their website. It took about a month and a half to get my system in, but it did show up, so I'm happy about that. Though as Phoenix mentioned in his review, it does take a bit of work on the consumer end to elicit an update or response from them during the build process. The laptop worked great for the past few months, up until last week when I noticed that my CPU was thermal throttling pretty hard. I decided to pop open the bottom and do a dust off of the heatsinks and fans. Well, when I popped off the CPU heatsink, turns out there was NO thermal paste at all! I remember paying for a thermal paste upgrade too during the build process, and looks like I got nothing! So there was the culprit to my thermal throttling problem. Just to be safe, I decided to call up Origin's customer service line and try to get a replacement. I will admit, the customer service representative I got was not bad at all, since he took care of the problem fairly quickly and put in a replacement CPU order, along with my missing thermal paste all under warranty. I should be getting the replacement sometime this week or next, depending on when they ship the parts, IF they will ship the parts! I love the laptop and everything about it, but for my next replacement for this thing in a few years, it probably won't be from them, and I'll definitely do some more research on different vendors before making a move. As some say, that's the price of education! See below for a photo of what I talked about above.


Nice and shiny CPU without ANY trace of thermal paste being applied to it, ever! Ran like this for about 5 months.

 

This is terrifying. I mean, good customer service response...but it makes you wonder whether they're doing the custom work you're paying them to do.

What display did you get? You might be able to answer the OPs question here. Did you get the 1440p "IPS" 120hz G-Sync? If you did I think you can use AIDA 64 to identify the part number so that we can check out what kind of panel it is, since nobody here is sure it's actually an IPS.

Thanks.

 

Yea I'm pretty sure that's a typo, because back on the main page they mention the same panel but leave out IPS

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Unfortunately, when I placed the order for the "IPS" 120hz G-Sync to come on my system, they claim that there was an industry shortage of those panels, and initially offered me a 4K GSync display. They replied to me a week or two later saying the 120hz panels would take even longer, so I opted for the 60Hz GSync panel, since I needed this laptop in a sort of urgent time frame. Therefore, I'm unable to provide a part number for the panel in question. :/
See below for two of my correspondences with my sales rep.

 

Industry shortage? Yeah right. Such a panel doesn't exist but they don't wanna look like Muppets so they drafted that nice email with a compensation
There is no 120hz IPS panel

 

That's exactly what I thought, "Too good to be true, load of BS"; hence my decision to just get the normal 60Hz GSync 1080p Display. I also wouldn't think there would be a 2-3 week timeframe of silence regarding the manner, so something was probably up.

 

Got a reply from the inquiry I sent!


Now I'm thinking just to get my unit from hidevolution. Planning on getting it on origin because of the wooden crate they used when they ship the product since I live here in middle east. Also I like their logo and bag! Hahaha!

 

You're right. Looks like they're dodging info. The Clevo goes for cheaper on HIDevolution and so far I like their customer service. The only reason to have gone with Origin is if they had this magical 1440p IPS panel, which it seems they don't.

Good luck with your buy.

 

@Phoenix got his laptop also built by HIDEvolution and shipped to Dubai. He's had no problems as far as I heard.
Just my personal opinion: If you are looking for a combination of both - a professionally built laptop with proper delidding/thermal paste/tweaking etc. and a cool logo ( , take a look at Obsidian-PC, Portugal - https://www.obsidian-pc.com/en/ @John@OBSIDIAN-PC
I got my laptop from here shipped to Germany with 1-day expedited shipping via DHL, had no problems !

 

yeah my Origin PC Millennium arrived here in Dubai with the Wooden Create, nice to look at, you open it, then never use it again...... Don't let a gimmick convince you to buy from a company that has atrocious customer service and will make you literally beg to get updates on your build and you won't be able to sell your laptop because their warranty is NOT transferable to the next user so you're stuck with it forever!







Your laptop will arrive just fine if you order it from HIDevolution and your shipment is insured.

 

Your cats are loving it ! At least one of them knows you're taking a pic and gives you a nice pose

 

After having the same Question OriginPC finally answered me with their display brand B173QTN01
so basically the same TN panel as the Eurosky, MSI, Auros etc are using

which is a TN model (the funny thing is their Rep keep insisting its an IPS panel)

 

It is good viewing angles for TN but that's the technology it's based on with the benefits and drawbacks that has.

 

It is not a question of if its a good screen or not
its about False Advertising (from OriginPC)
they claim its an IPS panel with 120Mhz and 5ms

 

Correct, and this ties in with my post on the first page. This 1440p is not an IPS panel, it is a TN "wide viewing" panel with a wider than normal viewing angle compared to a normal TN panel.

Though it's not my place to comment on how they are advertising/promoting it, they just need to update the website description.

 

The Issue is that even when speaking with their Rep and explaining to him that the model he gave me is a TN screen he continue to say its an IPS panel

 

Ah ok, well that's a bit different then - I can't really comment further as a rep from another company as to how they should deal with the issue, depends if you want them to do something about your hardware or change their description for others, or both!