ES CPUs and W860CU ?

As anyone used a ES processor in a W860CU do they work ? I have been told that these don't work in Clevo's that well

Was looking at getting a 920X ES if my fan problem ever gets sorted

 

There's a lot of bad info out there about ES chips. They'll work fine in any chipset that supports them. What's more important is the source; make sure to check the history of the seller. If their history is good and they say it has no defects, then it will be fine.

There are 3 major eBay sellers that I would trust to give accurate information. I've been through quite a few ES CPU's.

 

This related to my fan problem as the barebone seller is claiming my old CPU (a OEM i7-720QM) maybe causing the problem with my system not spinning the CPU fan then it's hot

However since I'm unsure myself I bought this cheap CPU to test :-
Intel i5 430M 450M from 2.13GHz to Turbo 2.66GHz 3M L3 - eBay (item 120607307385 end time Nov-08-10 08:01:27 PST)

However it doesn't work in the Clevo

 

Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean here. The seller of your barebone kit is saying that your new CPU caused a problem with the old one? If so, that's impossible.

Also, if you have the newest BIOS, that i5 should work fine in a w86cu.

 

Sorry too early for me .. corrected

Have latest 1.16 bios installed still no joy

 

When did you buy your W860CU? If it was before April/May of this year it may not be compatible with i5 CPU's.

I am not totally sure about this, but I think a hardware change was made for this compatibility so a BIOS update would not be enough.

 

Bought in June/July Motherboard stamp is August 2010 the rest are May

 

That is total nonsense.

 

I thought it was total nonsense at first as well and blaming the cpu is rjtechs typical response for laptops they sell without a cpu, but in another thread he mentioned that that the acpi/thm is reporting 0c so I'm not sure what to think about it, but his purchase of another cpu is probably a good idea for a self diagnosis.

 

Yep I thought so too however then the laptop was returned the first time the ACPi/thm worked I just need to cover the bases with this

Also I returned the cpu/ram/hdd with the laptop the last time so that they could be tested together

at this stage it's costing me 200 USD per repair to send it to them

Edit: I'm bidding on a cheap i3-330M non ES CPU at the moment

 

Well, perhaps it's time to exercise the CPU's Intel warranty. If the temp sensor is broken, that's a serious issue.

 

But the CPU temps work just fine

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1563/hwinfo32.jpg

it's the Clevo EC temps that are screwed

 

Well I have tried the machine with a i3-350M and i5-430M CPUs both don't work just get a black screen - The bios is the latest 1.16

The i7-720QM works fine .. this machine is a lemon

 

Just a update

I have borrowed MTX2 from a friend

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Which is a W860CU just re branded with a i7-840QM I installed the 840 in the Clevo and it still doesn't work Temp read -0.2 and I installed the i7-720 in the MTX2 and it works fine

Any suggestion on how to deal with RJtech ?

To be frank this machine is a lemon and it costs me 200+ plus every time I send it to them

 

Where'd the 840 come from?

 

Dude, it seems that your machine is indeed dealing with a fatal flaw.

Two ?s:

So you aren't under warranty?

Have you had the motherboard replaced? What are they doing for this $200?

 

It's too bad RJTech isn't willing to just send you the board for the swap. Knowing how much it costs you to the whole machine you think they'd be willing to make an exception to their typical policy.

 

It was my friends Laptop he bought it in Japan a Japanese keyboard doesn't bother him does me

Yes it's under warranty but they don't cover the shipping so it's about 100 usd per leg of the trip

Yes indeed esp. as I do this sort of thing for a living I have gone out of my way to prove it's not the CPU testing the CPU in another system and using a good worker in my system

I don't want them to turn around and tell me it's the CPU cause I know thats BS now ..

 

same thing happened when i tried this with the g73jh the first 4 times...
what i ended up doing was taking out all the ram and only booting one stick of 1066 ram. and the thing came on. then when i put the regular ram back in, it didn't want to work at first (8 gigs of ram) so i dropped down to 4 gigs and it worked. now it works with all the ram..go figure.

so maybe the system need to work it's self up to the i3 or i5 working?
i would try the i5 again and put one stick of am in slot one or A slot. and hit the reset set button...then power on and see if anything happens.

 

Interesting . thanks .. the motherboard is fubared anyways I have checked it with a working i7 and the EC temps are still -0.2

So it's gone back to Rjtech for the second time they have promised to soak test it for a week before shipping it back this time ..

 

soak test it?

 

Just means that they are going to stress test it

Soak testing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

btw like your desktop

 

thanks.

yeah, that's a new one on me.

 

Four reasons not to buy ES Intel cpus, in no particular order:

1 company's can't charge for ES cpus so the seller you buy it from is making a fortune at your expense cause he didn't pay anything for them in the first place.

2 there's a good chance it's been stolen along with the rest of the batch the seller has

3 there's more of a chance that it is a fake CPU. That's right campers, just like Gucci bags there are factories in China that manufacture fake cpus and sell them as ES versions to avoid suspicion.

4 if you get a dud one there's nothing u can do about it cause if it's stolen Intel can tell from the serial number so won't replace it, same if it's a fake of course.

Either way u are basically giving money to criminals and therefore pushing the price of legitimate Intel cpus up.

 

all in all..your opinion...is duly noted.

 

Same rules for all countries, why would Intel give out es cpus to companies for free and let some sell them for profit and others not?

Say an eBay seller has 10+ es cpus, same model. You can't get that quantity unless they are stolen, fake or through improper channels - shouldn't be sold on either way and seller is making big bucks at your expense.

You shouldn't get a dud chip or need to update or change a BIOS for them to work, that's a sign that something wrong. Did these people get them replaced by Intel or by the seller. If latter then that proves the point.

I know that Intel gives es cpus to clockers, though I wouldn't ever buy one if I had to I would get one from a private seller. Not one who has loads of them. You can't just find yourself with a load of es cpus unless something a bit dodge is going on.

 

this isn't the lets bash es thread.
thanks!
he is asking about es cpus in a w860cu...and that's it.

 

Intel does give them to manufacturers to test on their equipment. What happens when they don't need them any more is the question. What also probably happens is that the people that own the plants in China make a number of them to sell themselves, and just label them as an ES processor. Then they sell them in bulk to an ebay seller, and the ebay seller and the good Chinese Samaritan makes a substantial profit. I am a big fan of China and the Chinese people in general, so however the people there can make a profit is fine.

 

If the validity of the source is questionable i would avoid it