EUROCOM M980NU Preorder!!!

Here:

http://web.eurocom.com/EC/ec_model_config1(1,204,0)


Configuration:
T9600 2,6GHz
SLI 2x GTX 280M 1GB GDDR3
2x 250GB Seagate Momentus 7200.3

Price: Over 4600CAD!
This rig is comparable to Asus W90. Asus is about half of this price.

Basic cofig:
Q9000
GTX 280M 1GB GDDR3
1x 250GB Seagate Momentus 7200.3
without bt

Price: 3499CAD

Its sad that Clevo keeps such a high prices...

 

Link doesn't work, I didn't expect this to be much cheaper though considering this is eurocom and the CAD isn't worth what it used to be.

 

compared to the single GTX 280m config, the Sager NP5797 is FAR cheaper. Seems the only reason to get the M980NU is for the dual GTX 280m SLi.

 

Check the link now and let me know

 

Link works, but Eurocom's prices

 

Well looks like if I'm going to get an 18.4 Its NOT going to be Clevo. They have become disappointing lately, and it looks like since they developed a nice fan base they are starting to lose their competitiveness, I'm willing to bet this M98NU doesn't even support overclocking... I know Eurocom is a joke and ridiculously expensive but this price is half Clevo's doing, and it makes me sick to see that price.

 

Crylo you dont know - support or not overclocking
and you cant comapre Asus W90 to M980NU
Clevo is clearly superior:
Best cooling which is one of the most important stuff in laptops
Clevo high-ends laptops have atleast 2-3 years upgrade with new parts
and after few months you will see that Clevo models are much better than Asus
and any other nothing new

 

This doesn't particularly make sense to me. Clevo has been around for a while now.

The 570XX and 860XX are still priced very competitively (Based on the prices from other resellers). D901Cs are somewhat pricey, but they're still the only quad core desktop equipped laptops available.

 

let's see the price of xotic. I suspect it's way closer to common sense.

 

I was wondering on how much cheaper xotic can offer this setup ...

 

Wow add $605 US dollars for a second card ouch.

 

The second 9800M GTX was 750$ initially. Expect prices to drop.

 

Hopefully atleast a grand less then what Eurocom wants .

 

that would be swell ...




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I wonder how much it will cost in UK .

 

common they asking 500 bucks for second HDD (500Gb) and the price in online shops is around $140. ??? three & a half time more expensive for the "go & buy online" item. r they crazy or what???

 

man that thing is sick...should hit close to 20,000 easily with 2 280's and a qx9300. the only problem is the price. $605 for another gpu, and $500 for another hd..thats a little crazy.
and also, the cooling on the asus is quite good, and everything is accessible once you remove the main rear panel.

http://notebookcritic.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/20k2.jpg

3dmark 06 is 20,000, but the qx9300 is oc'd to nearly 4ghz

and the cooling:

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8674/w90vpmxm.jpg

 

Oh i know alot of it is just the whacky prices of eurocom, but look how much it costs to uprgade to a Qx9300, only $592 US which is a good deal actually . So in the end there prices are all over the map and until we see some other sites IE Xoticpc then we wont know how inline these prices actually are.

If it can come within a few hundred dollars of the W90 with both cards(2x280s) id grab one of these over the W90 . I cant see paying that much of a premium for rebranded 9800gtx die shrunk or not and even if there 20 to 30 percent faster then current 9800s its still not worth that much of a premium TO ME so im not speaking for everyone, just personal opinion .

 

Those price are probably guessed higher to be safe, if I remember well they had the M860tu for preorder 6 month before it's release at about 2400$ and when it finaly came out it was down to about 1900$ although I agree they charge a ridiculous amount for there hard-drive and ram, I wonder if it's possible to order one without hard-drive

 

I like how eurocom's pictures are inconsistant lol.... (look at keyboards)

sony/mac style kb = nice
the other one just looks too normal

 

It will probably cost £6000 before VAT in the UK.

 

I wonder if some1 ordering from them

2 days I made an exercises comparing 8662 from Justins and Eurocom. Briefly - Eurocom was 50% more expensive.

Then, "they had the M860tu for preorder 6 month before it's release at about 2400$ and when it finaly came out it was down to about 1900$"

Let me guesstimate, I like such king of games
Let's consider that current M98 price $4,800 with specs me personally consider "not really bad".

"early order coefficient":
(1-(2400-1900)/2400) = 79.2%

So-called "normal" price in Eurocom when it will be finally available is:
"early order coefficient" * 4800 = 3800

"real" price (price in xotic):
3800 / 1.5 = 2533

well below 3k$.

From other hand, now the top model in really good specs (not basic one) costs slightly over 3k$, but GTX200 should be cheaper, so again the price for M98 in good specs should somewhere around 3 grands.

 

If I can get this with good specs for around $3200 I'm sold!

 

Exactly...they're asking for almost $500 on a second HDD when the primary they have at $171 which still is too much. That's just ridiculous...it'll be waaaaay more cheaper to get the HDDs on ur own from online retailers like tigerdirect, amazon, newegg etc.

And why can't u add a third 250GB SSD if u wanted too?

If I were to order from Eurocom I would see myself just ordering the chasis only..only if that were possible. 'Cause they have some serious price gouging going on there.

As far as I see the best deal they have on the Big 3 for me (being HDD, CPU & Mem.) is the Memory and CPU. Those are fairly priced IMO.

 

*I never said I knew if Clevo supports overclocking or not I said I bet they wont and IF they don't its going to hurt them in the 18.4 market vs Asus, believe me it will.

*We can't say for certain that the Clevo has better build quality right now, its not out yet... although it should be good considering Clevo has had pretty good build quality in the past but then again so does Asus.

*The W90's cooling from what I've heard is as good as any high end notebook on the market today from what I have been reading.

*That price quote on a comparable M98 to the X1 is way too much, and even if it drops 1000$ its just still too much. Clevo's are supposed to be the top of the line "affordable" gaming notebooks with great build quality and the best price to performance ratio around that is their reputation, If they can't beat the W90's price then they are in a bit of trouble "in the 18.4" market", because right now the X1 model is packing some serious price to performance ratio and some spot on build quality and cooling solutions and I'm fairly certain the W90 will have some upgradability.

 

Yes they have been around a long while, you misunderstood my post... perhaps I should have worded it better, as it sounds like I meant they developed a fan base recently, which is not how I meant to put it.

 

I wonder when RJ Tech will offer M980NU and D900F barebone..

 

I'm living in Ontario, so in terms of taxes it make no difference to me to order lappy either from Xotic or Eurocom, but in terms of price - yep, there is difference. A talked to them this week and the guy told that we can talk about the price of 8662, but do not think they ready to "fall down" on this difference (50%). But of course I'll check it.

I have no idea why the prices of all other vendors are more or less the same but Eurocom so high, I see no reason for this.

 

never had a clevo before: what about oc-ing? is their bios known for giving you good options - or more "all locked" like the ones from alienware for example?

 

Eurocom are price gougers, thats just how they roll. They are a shady company and they keep their website prices high so that they can take advantage of the odd sucker here and there who are not intelligent or knowledgeable enough to shop around and ask for a price match (which they sometimes refuse!). If its true what they say and there's a sucker born every day, Eurocom sees em coming a mile away.

 

i wouldnt buy any upgrades from the shop, just get the "basic-version" and upgrade cpu/ram/hdd or ssd from cheaper pnline-shops (or ebay for the cpu).
cant wait to see the price from a european dealer.

 

I can not imagine if there tons of suckers who ready to spend couple of grands w/o doing the homework of being aware of what they going to buy. But if Eurocom still alive...

Right now I'm waiting for an email and 1st thing after i'll get - I'm ordering 8662. Sure, i'll call Eurocom for price matching it's gonna be funny

 

I'm tired of the Eurocom is vastly more expensive argument, so I'll just point out that it's not always the case, particularly thanks to forex fluctuations. Eurocom does not really update its currency exchange rates, so a CAD configuration can very often cost less than a USD based configuration and vice versa.

I do agree that Eurocom charges very high prices for its upgrades in general, but that does mean that it will always cost more.

I went back to search for some of my posts regarding this issue and found that several have been deleted, making me rather annoyed.

At any rate, I found this one at least.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4171107&postcount=9

 

CAD/USD is 1.15 approx on Eurocom website now, what way cheaper again real ratio. But even with this they are way more expensive, at least now. But sure I'll open xotic and Eurocom pages and talked to Eurocom if they can fall down on xotic's prices. But saying frankly, I don't think so...

 

I do agree that they are generally more expensive, but merely pointing out that there are occasionally ways around it.

 

Let's see, but i'm not so optimistic

 

How so? Clevo costs $4261 without OS for a model comparable to W90 base model. Asus W90 runs pretty cool according to the owners, where so far all we know is D901 series have great cooling, same cannot be said to M980 due to lack of conclusive testing.

As for upgrade, 2-3 years on D900F is possible, as it has already i7 and tripple channel DDR3 support, but not on M980. There is a deadend for CPU upgrade on the latter, as C2D is gonna to be phased out by Q3/4 by Nehalem CPU, which doesn't support existing MB. I also highly doubt whether you can upgrade the GPU in the future, as GT 300 won't be around for a long while; there are only two memory slots on M980 compared to 3 on Asus.

You can load up W90 with QX9300 for $3500, with 4870 X2, 6 gigs of Ram, 640Gb HDD; and we know on its X38 MB, it can overclock to well over 3 Ghz. Plus D900F and M980 starts at the same base price, while at that price, D900 has desktop i7, and M980 only have 1 GPU; I don't think W90 would threaten M980 as such, cos D900F already does it.

Also neither W90 and M980 aren't going to last long without respective i7 refresh, it just doesn't seem sensible to get the more expensive configuation without upgradability.

 

Thats my point Clevo 3 years old model is better then W90 D901C i mean and you thing that new Clevo models will be worse than W90 sorry but i cant agree here just wait and see because i have friend with D900C first buyed with one 7950GTX with Core 2 duo cpu used 2 year and half then i sell to him my two 8800M GTX cards he buy Q9550 and this is just with bios update 3 years old laptop when Asus or some other firm do this then we can talk again
and for the higher price we can all agree that this is case that better quality cost more money

 

Though D901 does support desktop CPU, which helps massively in terms of futureproof(ness); where as M980 is just another laptop with Sli support. It doesn't support desktop chip, nor does it support i7 CPU.

 

yes but is CLEVO the quality is much better then this of Asus in high-end laptops i mean and you can be sure that this laptop will be upgradeable for atleast 2 more years that cant be said for asus
and M980NU is not released yet for as to properly compare both laptops we have to ask some that have the laptops but we cant ask some idiot that dosnt have idea
some competent guy have to compare them

 

in terms of future upgrade - 200% agree. C2D is a deadend and really will be out from price list.

right i'll take 8662 just to see how it's - Sager - and then in year time my plan is to get lappy with i7, gtx300 or newer, 3 RAM slots, ...

 

upgradable with what hardware? C2D will be gon in nearest month, MXM IV - the same story, at least GTX300 will use MXM 3. so, what left? right nothing you can upgrade in 1 year time.

sorry to disappoint you

 

Lest take and see from another point what Clevo release until now
1. D901C - Best in high-end line with SLI
2.M570RU, TU - Best in high-end line with single GPU
3. M860TU - Best in 15.4 inc
when compare with Asus and other laptop released until now you will get
the same result when you compare new Clevo models when they are released with new Asus models

 

To be honest, games are becoming more GPU dependent, so unless you are running workstation-level programs, then I wouldn't be too woried about the CPU aspect of it being a dead end.

That said, I'd wait for other vendors to start selling this system due to pricing. Should be an epic matchup against the W90.

 

Yes Asus is better then Clevo in your opinion right?

 

I'm not arguing that Clevo producing the most best gaming platforms. i'm just saying that M98 is a deadend

ichime
GTX300 will use MXM3. so you have to live with G92b forever

 

ichime for one that has seen Clevo and Asus with not be difficulty to decide

 

starche_old yes you are more competent then guys that made Clevo did you seen Asus W90 and M980NU so that you can compare them no you dont

 

Brand loyality in this market is more or less delusional, different firms come with better things all the time. Asus has traditionally targeted the mainstream segement, where as Clevo has set eye on mid to uber-high niche market, the people who gets Asus, think of value for money and after sales service, which is probably different for clevo; now Asus has finally decided to make a extreme 12 pounder machine, I'd say its very impressive attempt at given price; in reviews, the machine is described as a tank, and If I were Clevo, I'd be pretty worried.

Beside, M980 is a blacksheep even in the Clevo clan, they never made this size before; unlike 900F, which is built on top of very solid series; Asus's warranty are often better than most as well.

 

I did said not this, c'mon

But let's the tendencies. LGA775 is quiet old, LGA1366 released, Q2 to be released LGA1156, Q4 Nehalem 32nm will be available. In the same time nvidia will issue GTX300 again Q4. TDP aill be way better then GTX200 and according to the rumors, they will present mobile GPU together or slightly later then desktop one. Sure, it will be based on MXM 3.

What does it mean? to buy now top lappy on LGA775 and hope to upgrade it in 1 year time is a "bit" not really smart, u will not be able to do so. and from this point of view M98 is deadend.

W90 is a good machine but I'll never buy it. I'm linux user and ATI drivers are, if to be polite, crap.