I'm wanting to purchase a new laptop but I've been out of the 'tech' field for so long that I no longer know the best options for what I want.
I'm a Research Pathologist which means I need to run statistical software; however, I also specialize in 3D reconstructive design so I'll need to run 3D design software such as Maya, ZBrush, Blender, etc. I know these programs utilize the system in different ways - ex. ZBrush is purely a CPU based engine while Maya relies heavily on the GPU - but I'm wanting a system that can handle either.
This is straight forward - good Graphics card and good CPU. Now the hard part, as a research pathologist, 50% of my day is spent within the classroom or laboratory where heavy noise would cause distractions and power outputs are limited. Therefore, I need a system which delivers the CPU/GPU-based power necessary for my design and statistical software but still remains relatively quiet and can hold a charge.
This sounds like an impossibility; however, is it possible to reduce the system's specs in order to conserve battery and decrease noise output. In the classroom, the general office software and a few small, non-demanding applications are used so the CPU/GPU power isn't needed in this area. Even if it is possible to reduce specs, would it reduce the noise output to a level that is non-distracting and increase battery to ~5hrs.
I know the quick and easy answer: buy two systems - a piece of crap for the classroom and a beast for the office; but, I would like it to remain singular if possible.
I built a machine through HIDevolution. I'm pretty certain it will handle the software I need to run but I don't believe it will be quiet or have the battery life I need. The specs are as follows:
LCD Panel *
Video Card *
- 15.6" 4K QFHD (3840x2160) Samsung PLS LED Backlit Antiglare Matte Type Display w/ NVIDIA G-Sync Technology +$100.00
Prema BIOS *
- nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 w/ 8GB GDDR5 - NVIDIA G-Sync Enabled w/ Unlocked Prema vBIOS - Latest Updated Version once available - Contact us for details
Processor *
- Prema Custom BIOS - Latest Updated Version once available - Contact us for details
Thermal Paste *
- 6th Generation Intel Core i7-6820HK Quad Core Processor, 2.7GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.6GHz), 8MB Smart Cache +$125.00
Memory *
- Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface on CPU, IC Diamond on GPU - BEST PERFORMANCE+$30.00
RAID Options *
- 16GB (1 x 16GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series DDR4/2800MHz +$110.00
M.2 PCIe NVMe or SATA SSD Slot 1 *
- no RAID (1st drive as primary boot drive, 2nd drive as storage drive)
M.2 SSD Slot 2 (supports M.2 SATA - does NOT support M.2 PCIe SSD) *
- Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 2,200 MB/s Read-900 MB/s Write+$210.00
1st 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay *
- 500GB Samsung 850 EVO (3D VNAND TECH) M.2 SATA SSD +$192.00
2nd 2.5" SSD Bay *
- Empty HDD bay (with caddy/adapter) -$30.00
External Optical Drive
- Empty HDD bay (with caddy/adapter)
Wireless Cards *
- External Bluray read/write DVDRW drive +$85.00
Operating System *
- Intel® Wireless-AC 8260 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.2 +$20.00
Operating System Reinstallation Media
- Genuine Windows® 10 Pro, 64bit, English +$130.00
Power Adapter *
- OS Reinstallation + Drivers USB Flash Drive +$25.00
Internal Battery *
- Full Range 230W AC Adapter AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz
- 1 x 4 cell battery - 60Wh (Internal)
Is there any suggests that you all could give as how to get performance without sacrificing battery or serenity ?
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The 4K display will drain battery a lot even when not running anything demanding. Unless you really need it the 1080p may be better.
The 6820 is also more power-hungry than the 6700, and unless you are going to overclock it doesn't actually give you much more performance as I understand.
Obviously the 1070 takes more power and generates more heat than the 1060, but that really depends on which one you need. If you can do everything you need to with the 1060 you will buy yourself more battery life and less noise. Otherwise not much of a choice and go with the 1070.
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Gtx 1060 and fhd screen will be much more suitable for your purpose as @mishkasm said. You can also consider the upcoming 'Razer Blade Stealth and Core Combo' or Razer Blade with GTX 1060.
They will give you much better battery life.
If you want real performance then you should definitely consider Clevo P750DM-2(G) with i7 6700k, the best consumer processor in market. It is also upgradable.
One more advice, do not buy 1x16 G.B. ram. Aways get dual channel ram, i.e. 2xY G.B. (Y=4,8,16,32 etc)Last edited: Aug 26, 2016i_pk_pjers_i likes this. -
That's a good idea. In general I dislike eGPUs, but this may be a situation where an eGPU works well. I think the Razer Core is still the best one around, but it may be worth seeing if anything else is available soon.
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I made you this on Xotic PC:
SAGER NP9152 (CLEVO P750DM2) ETA: 08/30/2016
Thermal Cooling1 x IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU (Cools better than all Compounds) $35.00
Warranty1 x 3 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty & Lifetime Tech Support w/ LCD Accidental Damage Protection for Sager Machines$345.00
Operating System1 x Windows10 Pro 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled (Clean Install | Drivers Only | No Bloatware) $120.00
Shipping Warranties / Packaging1 x 3 Year - Two Way Ground Shipping Coverage for Sager Warranty Repairs (Canada) (Must be Combined with Sager 3 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty) $70.00
Operating System Options1 x Windows10 64-Bit Edition USB Recovery Media $25.00
1 x Yes, Redline Boost My Operating System (Operating System Required) (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC)$55.00
Display Options1 x XOTIC PC Professional Monitor Color Calibration (Operating System is required) (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC)$49.00
Processor1 x 6th Generation IntelSkylake
i7-6700K (4.0GHz - 4.2GHz, 8MB Intel
Smart Cache) $50.00
Battery/Power/Dock Accessories1 x 330W AC Adapter - Upgrade [Replaces stock power supply]$75.00
Ram1 x 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory $65.00
M.2 Slot 11 x 500GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 SSD $210.00
Wireless Networking / Bluetooth1 x IntelDual Band AC 8260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth
4.0 [M.2 Chip] $15.00
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If you're not gaming, I would probably steer you away from Clevo and into a workstation-class notebook, such as a Dell Precision. Getting one of those with an NVIDIA Quadro or AMD FirePro GPU will be much more capable for your 3D rendering than the consumer-class GeForce or Radeon. Plus, you'll also have the benefit of available on-site, next-business-day support should something go wrong.
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Wouldn't the P750 be a lot more expensive than the P650 he originally wanted? Again, depends on what is needed, but pretty sure you could knock $1,000 off of that price by going with the P650-S.
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i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down
If you have to have the absolute best performance, it will cost you both a good amount of money and it will be fairly noisy, and have a fairly poor battery life.
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Godfather Ezio / Mishkasm: it is the P650RS-G - Price of configuration through HIDevolution is $2,811.00.
I didn't think about the 4k pulling more battery life than the FHD. I don't know why, It's quite obvious now that it's pointed out. I don't believe it is necessary for what I do so that should save battery as well as money.
The 1x16GB was chosen so that I would be able to add another 16 GB later. As of now, all my programs run well with 16 GB but AutoDesk's Inventor software, which I will have to use eventually, requires 24 GB to run smoothly. But with your suggestion, I do think it might be best for me to switch to dual channel and then simply upgrade later.
The 1060 isn't an option with the HIDevolution configuration I am using. I do believe it would work but I'll have to contact the sales team to see if that can be added. Maya is the only software that I currently use which requires a premium GPU, besides the rendering software but that can be outsourced. Is anyone familiar with Maya or 3DsMax who could give me a suggestion on a GPU suitable for high-poly 3D reconstructions?
Godfather Ezio: that machine you built looks wonderful from first glance. I've never used XoticPC before but it basically has the same configuration as my build except that it utilizes a much better CPU. Did you happen to notice the GPU on the computer you specified? -
P750DM2G - Gtx 1060 or 1070
Razer Blade : Gtx 1060 Ultra Lightweight
Razer Blade Stealth : Integrated Graphics
Actually Razer Blade and Razer Blade stealth can use Razer Core, an external GPU dock which support even the largest gpu's. So you can leave your Razer Core in the office while you carry the ultrabook to the class. The only problem with that is the underpowered dual core i7, which is not good for rendering. -
Here is a link to the P650 from Xotic: http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8152s-clevo-p650rp6.html
I assume HIDevolution has something very similar?
EDIT: here is the link from HIDevolution http://www.hidevolution.com/evoc-p6...gaming-laptop-w-nvidia-gtx-1060-w-g-sync.html
About $1,400 for what you need. You can mess with some of the options, but I bet you could stay under $1,800 as long as you keep GTX 1600.
In general I think the FHD screen, the i7-6700HQ, and the GTX 1600 will be good. But even with these battery life is really only going to be around 2-3 hours I think. You'll be pretty hard pressed to get much more out of it. Although come to think of it the Gigabyte Aero 14 is supposed to have 5+ hour battery life. It has a GTX 970M, so quite a step down from GTX 1600, but if you are ok with it it seems to otherwise be a pretty powerful little laptop with a good battery life.Godfather Ezio likes this. -
Will the more powerful GPU really matter though in terms of battery life? If he switched to Intel GPU when in the classroom it should be nearly equal. The 4k will definitely use more power. I'd say the p650rp6 is your best bet assuming the 1060 is enough for power. Consider that a 1060 is nearly equal to a desktop 980. Prob slightly slower due to thermal limitations of laptop but still top end if this was only a year ago.
EVOC P650RS-G 15.6" Custom Built Gaming Laptop w/ nVIDIA GTX 1070 w/ G-Sync
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