Eurocom Forum?

We had somebody from Eurocom contact us and ask that a Eurocom forum be setup, there has been some discussion regarding the brand, so we setup a forum here as a sub-forum to "Other" manufacturers:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1041

Seems that all of the threads related to Eurocom are in this forum though, since they rebrand Clevo notebooks. Question to forum members: does it make sense to move the Eurocom sub-forum here or is it even worth having such a sub-forum? Opinions appreciated!

 

Well in my opinion all of the other sellers that re-brand notebooks do not have their own forum so I believe it is not fair to allow Eurocom to have one.

 

Originally, I had influenced to get Clevo its own forum for all Clevo resellers...

Rather it was added into the Sager forum... making it now the Sager and Clevo forum

It would be nice to reflect the Clevo big hitters [Sager, Eurocom, Pro-Star/M-tech] in the forum description though.

 

Anyone have an idea of where Eurocom ranks compared to Sager and who the biggest of the Clevo rebadge manufacturers are?

 

In North America, the largest Clevo resellers/distributors are:
- Sager Notebooks
- Pro-Star / M-Tech
- Eurocom

Eurocom is not as large in distribution than Sager... but very close to Pro-Star.

Eurocom... however.... markets their notebooks much better than the other two... by sending their units around for reviews and doing a lot of advertisings.

 

that's great insight, thanks Gophn

 

Since you asked for opinions, here's mine:

Sager and Eurocom are both resellers (though Sager probably has more market share) so it doesn't make sense to give one of them mention in the forum title (" Sager and Clevo") and not the other.

Fairest would be to either remove Sager from the title and to keep it "Clevo and Re-sellers" while mentioning Sager, Eurocom and other players in the description, or adding Eurocom (and possibly other major re-branders) in the title as well.

I don't think there's a point in separating Eurocom threads from the rest of the Clevo sections because technical questions would be relevant to all Clevo models, and the only Eurocom-specific threads would be in regards to their pricing, service and support. I don't think there's enough of those type of threads to warrant their own forum; if anything, there's more threads about XoticPC and Powernotebooks service and support.

Finally, it's good to have all the re-sellers in one place since they sell the same product and this way the userbase can exchange experiences and compare all the re-sellers in the same forum, providing future purchasers with a variety of options. If the re-sellers and their customers were segregated within their own forums, a newcomer would have a harder time keeping track of what the best option for them would be.

 

make another forum inside this forums for manufactures and tell them if they want a forum to get at least a rep in the forum like Justin or Donald.

 

Rename the Sager and Clevo forum to just "Clevo". (Sager is selling other notebooks than just Clevo) Make a subforum for all the resellers. Then make a sticky at the top for each reseller that wants one. I'd recommend only giving them a sticky IF they have a represenative to answer questions. Just IMO.

 

Thats what I was thinking.

Like this:

Clevo - perhaps not widely known, but their products are re-branded and sold by known boutique brand OEMs (Original Equipment Manufacturers)… notably Alienware, Sager, VoodooPC, Falcon Northwest, Eurocom, etc.
They are also considered (by whoever knows about notebooks) to design and manufacturer the best of the best notebooks in terms of superior build quality and innovative designs.:

(sub-forums)
- Sager (and their resellers)
- Pro-star/M-tech
- Eurocom
- RJtech
- PCMicroworks
etc....

Whatcha think?

 

Spot on.

 

yeah, no need to point out eurocom solo....

 

Following feedback, I think I'm just going move the Eurocom threads back to here and since I'm not a huge fan of sub-forums unless there's a ton of traffic in a certain forum I'll just mention Eurocom in the forum description.

 

Nice work on the Clevo rename also Andrew +1

 

So what's gonna happen to all the discussions about the Sager NP2090, which has nothing to do with Clevo? Move to the Compal forum? Did I miss something?

 

Ha - good one. Most resellers - APART Sager and Eurocom sells various brands...

You made a good point.

AND, in a sense, I'd love not to see all the topics about the 2090 as I am more interested in Clevo models. Since the 2090 is out, I skip most of this forum.

Could be a good idea splitting the Clevo and Compal forums, without regards to the reseller...

 

If we had a reseller subforum then you could talk about Sager products there. Otherwise I'd say the 2090 needs to be discussed in the Compal forum.

 

its ok to have the Sager 2090 stay here for now... since the Sager support is here for those notebooks.

 

I noticed that under Notebook Manufacturers, Clevo is out of alphabetical order and Sager is no longer under the heading. For a novice who knows very little about the notebook world, coming to NBR for information about Sager notebooks, or Eurocom for that matter, would be difficicult. How about still having Clevo as the main heading but in parenthesis have Sager, Eurocom, etc...

Clevo (Sager, Eurocom, Prostar, RJTech, etc...)

 

A bit confusing. Perhaps there should be an ODM and OEM section? I.e. A Forum for each actual maker of notebooks. Then subforums for those vendors/resellers that they deal with?

 

Yay! It's now in alphabetical order.

 

Aren't Alienware, Dell, Gatway, HP, Compaq, Sony, Toshiba, Voodoo, Cyberpower also resellers?

Why do they get their own forum

Methinks this is a can of worms....

 

It is a can of worms but there ought to be a way to keep things under control.

The problem is that what is most useful is not necessarily what the best from the standpoint of maximizing consistency.

I'd guess the vast majority of people who buy Dells don't care who the ODM is.

I'd guess there's a significant portion of people who buy Sagers who *do* care who the ODM is.

Maybe a good criterion would be to distinguish resellers that have exclusivity with regards to the models they sell from those who don't have such exclusivity.

For instance, I have not researched every single model sold by Dell and Sager but my understanding is that Dell has exclusivity whereas Sager does not. A Dell 1520 cannot be bought under another name somewhere else whereas the Sager NP2090 is a Compal IFL90 which can be bought under various names from PowerNotebooks, XoticPC, etc.

 

you make some good points, carrying that further, though, you can buy Alienware computers elseware, sans the fancy notebook top BUT people who buy alienware DO care. They need to be assured that they spent all that extra money for some reason. Also, some Asus models are rebadged by other resellers, so where is that line drawn?

And while Sager is not a huge BRAND, they have grown in noteriety in the past few years. I wonder how many Sager buyers will be lost now when they come to NBR and think, hey, where is sager?

I like the way it is going, but there will always be some messy spots.