Eurocom M57ru Divine-x

I went on Eurocom because it shows the price in Canadian dollars and took a look at the m57ru. What surprised me were the MANY options for GPU and confused the heck outta me.

So what I'm trying to ask is which would be the GPU that suits me the most. I will be gaming a bit on it, and would love to be able to max or near max with tweaking for some upcoming games, not to the extreme of Crysis of course.

What I've been considering is the 9800M GTS, the funny thing is that it says SUBTRACT $105 to get it, why is that? Is the card worse than the 8700M GT it defaults with? Also, I would think the 7950M GT is worse than the 9800M GTS but it costs more, am I just mistaken?

So games that I would like to max in the near future include: Mafia 2, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, and that new Splinter Cell etc. This should give a rough idea of what I want out of the GPU.

Another thing is that I'm deciding to stay with the default CPU, the T8300 at 2.4GHz, will this bottleneck the GPU at all or will it be sufficient enough for what I'd need?

Lastly, (A lot of questions I know, but I'm very clueless.. ) I'm wondering if I'm better off buying the OS on my own or getting it from Eurocom because it doesn't come with it by default.

Thanks for any replies ahead of time.

Oh, one more thing.. resolution size. When helping me with the GPU problem take into account the resolution size as I do not know which to get, 1680x1050 or 1920x1200. What I thought was that 1920x1200 would be perfect for a 17" screen but the problem would be I wouldn't be able to run any games on high with native res, so just give a bit of help on that, thanks.

 

the 9800M GTS is perfect for your needs.

the reason for the price differences is really supply and demand... and in the world of high-end videocards... the prices remain high even after years of no popularity.

the T8300 is very bang for the buck, good performance for the money.

does not matter either way.

Just when you buy it from them, they will install the OS for you with drivers.... which you can do in under an hour.

I would not worry about that.... the 9800M GTS can drive any game to 1920x1200.

My 7800GTX is still playing games at 1920x1200.

But do not worry about scaling it down, just as long as you choose a resolution that has the same aspect ratio.... in this case 16:10

you can scale the game to any of these resolutions and it will look fine (not stretched or blurry)... I know, I do it myself.
- 1280x800
- 1440x900
- 1680x1050
- 1920x1200

Just choose the resolution that you want, do not worry about playing games at native, its not that important.

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Lastly, I recommend you make a similar configuration from a US vendor, like Sager (or their resellers) and Pro-Star.....

then contact Eurocom to bring down the price of their system of the same configuration.... so you will get a price match (or close to it).... after converting the currency to CAD of course.

 

Okay that helped a lot but I have a few more problems, I just read some things about the screen on this notebook and I hear it's VERY dim. Is this true, or is it just one of the two options available? Because really, a dim screen seems to be a deal breaker to me. Would the WSXGA+ be brighter or the WUXGA?

Secondly, the fan is supposedly VERY loud? If I turn the setting to lowest fan speed when I'm working is it that noticeable?

Lastly would be the price. How does Eurocom's pricing work? There's a shipping part which I would pick as outside of Ontario etc. and it shows +89 or something and for tax I pick my area and it adds 5% to the final price. After all this is added up it gives me a total, does this REALLY mean total, like is it really all I have to pay or are there some sort of hidden fees?

With everything I have configured, 9800M GTS, T8300, 4GB etc, I get a price of $2035CAD with tax and shipping included. Is this a good price?

 

the rule of thumb for these kinds of gaming notebooks is:
- the lower the resolution, the higher the contrast (brightness)

But I have been extremely happy with my WUXGA LG.Philips panel (500:1 contrast, 25ms response) for over 3 years now... even though the newer LG.Philips WUXGA panel does have slightly better contrast and better response time.

you cannot escape fan noise when having a high-end performance notebook.

this notebook has Fan Toggles:
... Fn+1 to switch all fans to Max speed or Auto Speed
... Fn+3 to switch all fans to a constant Medium speed (this would be for non-gaming)

I am guessing you are ordering in Canada?

If so, I recommend to contact them directly to get the full details.

pretty decent in CAD.... though you can try to price match/negotiate if you contact them to show them the quote of a same system configuration from another vendor... like Sager.

 

Gophn or another person will likely come back with another response. (edit yep got in before me)

Realize though that how "loud" and "dim" are opinions that differ from person to person. It depends on your environment, and how sensitive you are. Only you can ultimately decide these things.

Personally my 5797 is no louder than my Inspiron 6000, there's just a very slight difference in pitch. Brightness wise it seems to depend on which lcd and who it's made by that you get in your unit. I've got a LG panel and it's brighter than several other laptops I've got. Nicer in some ways than the Sager NP9262 system I have around too.

You also have to consider that too bright, or too dim can also cause eye strain. So what you usually want to go for is a middle of the road, comfortable position, that can adjust as needed.

1680x1050 is plenty large from my experience.

 

Haha well Sager actually seems to be a bit more expensive.

Is the brightness thing really that much different? If so I'd go with the lower resolution.

About the fan noise, is it a lot louder than other high performance notebooks or just slightly. Does the medium speed get loud too or is it just right?

 

So it doesn't matter that I will be getting the 5793 and that you have the 5797? It'll be the same sort of screen?

 

which system are you looking at?

the Clevo M570RU is the Sager 5793
- using old Intel Santa Rosa platform

the Clevo M570TU/ETU is the Sager 5797
- using latest Intel Centrino 2 (Montevina) platform

just marginal... like an extra 100:1 or 200:1 better contrast

I have played with these systems, sounds fine to me compared to me notebook.

the Medium setting makes it pretty quiet since the sound just sounds constant and sinks into the background.

 

I was looking at the NP5793.

I just checked out the NP8662 on Sagernotebook.com and it seems it is much cheaper.. What I did was configure the notebook with P8600 and 9800M GTS, and when I converted the price over to Canadian with $1,349.00USDx1.22 and then added tax, x1.12 and I got the price: $1,899CAD which seems like a steal to me, haha.

 

yeah.

the Clevo M860ETU (Sager 8662) is the best 15.4" gaming notebook for a good price as well.

as for the Sager 5793... do you realize that its fully loaded with 4GB DDR2, WUXGA screen, and Blu-ray drive?

you should also compare the systems at www.xoticpc.com as well.... since they ship and support internationally.

 

Mmm, actually I didn't haha. Blu-ray isn't really a factor to me but that seems really cheap to include that for that price. Also doesn't the NP8662 have an option for WUXGA?

Also, I'm kinda lookin more into the NP8662 now so.. could I order it from the Sager site? And if not how would I go about price matching it with eurocom? I tell them the price I could get in CAD with the same config? Do I have to call or could I do this online?

Thanks for all your quick replies, you have been VERY helpful.

 

I can't tell you that one way or another. If you do a search here in this part of
the forums there's 93 users with different screens and other 9x series users with various screens. With the newest 97's with the 280m GTX, it seems like they are using the same screen as we've had at least one other person besides myself indicate we had the same screen.

It's more the luck of the draw... although I'd imagine you could ask the reseller to check which model of screen you'd be getting.

My 97 system, although it was configured with low specs cost
1,684.89 USD = 2,057.01 CAD and it's a bit more upgradable in the future than a 5793. Could be something to consider.

 

Yea I was thinking that but for a lower price I could get a 15" which seems more practical. In a year I'd be going to university and I'd need to lug it around, 17" seems a bit bulky.

 

yes it does have a WUXGA option.

look at other vendors... or just contact a vendor to specify that you want it when you order it.

Yes, that is what I have been trying to tell you.

Eurocom is a great company, but their online prices are usually overpriced.

so you [the consumer] should get quotes from other vendors for the same notebook, then contact Eurocom so that you can negotiate the price to near or match the price of the other vendor's system (after USD is converted to CAD of course.)

 

Well the size of the 5797 itself is ...

15 & five eighths inches wide <-->
by
11 inches tall (closed)
and
2 and an eighth inch thick.

9 pounds 4 ounces on it's own and the power adapter w/ 12 ft. cord is 1 pound 13 ounces. So figure about 11 pounds. A decent bag could offset that somewhat.

It is a bit heavier than a common 15 incher, but it's also pretty solid.
On the other hand, a black 579x laptop is an eye catcher too.. so might be targeted for being stolen more so as well.