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    Eurocom M860TU with QX9300 available??

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by AndrewKW, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. AndrewKW

    AndrewKW Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys, check out Eurocom's website.

    M860TU is available with Q9100 and QX9300, my opinions is that somebody at
    Eurocom did a mistake. (Or did they create new heatsink covering 4CPU cores?)

    It seems that Quad support from Eurocom is here, almost for SURE!

    Eurocom is technology leader as we could see many times before.
    (They offer highest quality parts like X9100 3,06GHz, HDD 500GB 7200RPM,
    8GB DDR3, now Quadcores in 15inch laptop)

    They dont follow CLEVO restrictions at all, they probably have R&D department working at 150%!!! There is not many manufacturers or resellers offering such a highend parts.

    That is why they prices seem to be a bit higher. You get what you pay for.
    Many users mentioned they negotiated lower prices. Also they offer student discounts and such.

    I wonder what 3DMark scores or CRYSIS/GTAIV performance boost will
    QX9300 bring to us
     
  2. SUADE8880

    SUADE8880 Notebook Evangelist

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    WTH! :eek: Definately got to find out what the revision is if there are any. Thanks for the info. I am still holding on hopes to add a quad core into mine with out drastic changes.
     
  3. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    on clevo's site, the highest CPU the m860tu is rated for is the Q9000... i dunno, maybe eurocom designed their own CPU heatsink so they have a marketing advantage.
     
  4. SUADE8880

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    Remember some body on here had that quad core in but the laptop would'nt post. If Eurocom kept the same mother board my bet is some kind of software revision instead of hardware or may be a little bit of both. We'll just have to wait and see.
     
  5. 5482741

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    It's likely no coincidence that PCMW made both (Q9100 and the QX9300) available the same day.
     
  6. dtwn

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    The reason for that would be PCMW's supplier is Eurocom.
     
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    I guess that means it's probably not a mistake on Eurocom's part.
    I didn't know PCMW was supplied by Eurocom, makes sense now that I think about it.
     
  8. dtwn

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    Just so you know, Eurocom and PCMW do have the tendency to get carried away by marketing rhetoric at times.
     
  9. Oiad

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    I thought it was tested that quads wouldn't work until the new motherboard revision (or M865TU) comes out. As discussed here.

    Perhaps I've missed news of a new update which makes it possible. Otherwise, how did Eurocom figure their own way around that problem? It would be interesting to know.
     
  10. theriko

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    Maybe the new revision is out...?
     
  11. nic.

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    Then its too quite for the revision... and nothing on Xotic PC's site yet.
     
  12. karmadhi

    karmadhi Notebook Enthusiast

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    mySn and Cizmo and deviltech have been offering the X9100 all along.Maybe you haven't checked eurocom frequently. At the begining of november they had the q9300 and the q9100. There is so much heat in these processors that the laptop can melt your sperm :D
    anyway don't buy a quad core.Even 35 WATT is tooooo much for a laptop.Go for a P9xxx series procesoor and you will save a lot of money plus the heat will be relatively lower.
    respect
     
  13. scourge18a

    scourge18a Notebook Consultant

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    The heat is not a big deal at all. Very managable, now if only they will let us OC :)
    I Want One
     
  14. karmadhi

    karmadhi Notebook Enthusiast

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    You already have a monster :D. The X9100 temps must go crazy.How is it comparable with the T9800???
     
  15. H-Emmanuel

    H-Emmanuel Notebook Evangelist

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  16. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

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    Next week ill get a 860TU and 2 QUAD CPU, Q9100/9200. Ill try if it works.
     
  17. H-Emmanuel

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    Alright let us know!
    If only it was a simple BIOS update and that we could actually ask Eurocom for it!
     
  18. Berserk515

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    Oh didnt c this. does that mean my brand new 2 and half month old laptop is old now? =(
     
  19. dtwn

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    Yes. It does. It is now 2.5 months old.

    Don't put too much in store with Eurocom's announcements just yet.
     
  20. kaltmond

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    Newer M86 can use Q9100 i have no doult, but for a QX9300 and even a OC to 2.8G i don´t truly trust it.......
     
  21. Bluemercury

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    Just asked Eurocom, heres the answer:

    Hello,

    You will need the new M860TU motherboard revision to support Quad Core.

    Thank You,

    Sean


    So no deal for the existing model....:S
     
  22. H-Emmanuel

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    Now the golden question is where and how can we get that motherboard revision?
     
  23. mortalcombat

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    I got my np8660 2 weeks ago... how can I know if I have the new MB that supports quad?
     
  24. H-Emmanuel

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    That sucks for you man, if yours is a Sager like mine, I'm almost 100% positive that you have the old revision since Sager didn't even start talking about any kind of motherboard revision.
     
  25. SUADE8880

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    Are you sure on this? I could be wrong but do you think they would just start selling the new revision overnight and trash all the old motherboards? I think there is a chance that they were already selling the revision before it was announced while they were scowdering the old ones. Who knows, but if we can find out what revision motherboard is it will be good for the people who just bought theirs recently to see if indeed the revision is what they have.
     
  26. Kevin

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    30-day no questions asked return policy. Send it back and reorder when the new revision is out.
     
  27. karmadhi

    karmadhi Notebook Enthusiast

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    Look what Intel will be releasing.NEW PROCESSORS

    * Intel Core 2 Duo SL9600 2.00GHz 6MB L2 Cache 1066MHz FSB
    * Intel Core 2 Duo SP9600 2.53GHz 6MB L2 Cache 1066MHz FSB
    * Intel Core 2 Duo SU9600 1.60GHz 3MB L2 Cache 800MHz FSB

    * Intel Core 2 Duo P8800 2.80GHz
    * Intel Core 2 Duo T9900 3.20GHz
    * Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9700 2.80GHz
    * Intel Core 2 Extreme X9300 3.33GHz


    WOOOOOW.....NEW QUAD CORE MONSTER FOR NOTEBOOKS (check in Wikipedia.Thats where I got the specs)
     
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  28. Deathwinger

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    These guys are insane. It looks like they are trying to get as much out of this processor line as they can before i7 comes out for notebooks.

    Kind of makes you wonder what's the point of an x9100 if you can easily get a T9900. And now every single T below T9800 is redundant because of the P8800 which gives more performance with less energy required.

    For sure I am glad I stuck with my P9500, I'd be a little pissed if I went for the T9800 with this info.
     
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  29. H-Emmanuel

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    OMG, hard choice between a really fast dual-core and quad-core!
    I'm ready to bet we'll need the motherboard revision even for the X9300 lol.
     
  30. Kevin

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    Where is the link to this info?

    The P8800 is 2.66GHz, T9900 is 3.06GHz according to all of the info I'm finding.

    EDIT: Wikipedia? I'm going to need a better source than that. Type Intel P8800 or T9900 into Google and you'll find news article listing my numbers.
     
  31. ichime

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    Same here. I can't find anything on the X9300 or this QX9700. If they are indeed announced or leaked, what are the FSB numbers? It seems the clock speeds are multiples of 266, and if so, this would be pointless as a QX9300 and an X9100 can be adjusted to those numbers via upping the multipliers. If it were at 3.2 for the X9300 and 2.83 for the QX9700, it would make sense.

    Also, the T9900 has been announced at 3.06ghz unless the FSB clock is upped...
     
  32. H-Emmanuel

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    Yeah I've looked into these CPUs as well and Wikipedia isn't what I would consider a reputable source. Anyhow I have good news, I asked RJTech about the M860TU motherboard revision and they told me that they don't have an ETA for it but when they receive them, they are willing to sell them to us. So I guess that we would completely be building our laptop from scratch this time and not paying the full price for an M860TU barebone.
     
  33. Sp3ctrum

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    Stop saying wikipedia is not reputable and verify if there is a reputable source at the end of the wikipedia article, in this article there is no source and it is written that this is a template article so I wonder why it has been posted here.
     
  34. H-Emmanuel

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    This is exactly why I said it wasn't reputable. I don't know many people who believe hardware speculations from Wikipedia anyways...

    Anyways RJTech just emailed me saying that they should receive the new motherboards in two weeks! The estimated price should be $480.
     
  35. ichime

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    That's the thing I don't like about Clevo with their mobo revisions. For people looking to upgrade in the future, it just adds another obstacle. MSi and ASUS have shown that most problems can be solved with a BIOS update (in this case, compatibility with the QX9300), and it's a shame that Clevo can't make a QX9300 compatible in the current M860TU or the NP5796 by just updating the BIOS, instead of revising the motherboard to distinguish the older and newer systems. This is what actually prevented me from purchasing an M570xx when I even considered it.

    Wikipedia is fine and dandy, but it doesn't prevent some joe schmoe who either has no idea what he or she is talking about or just wants to intentionally give false information, from having considerable control over the content it provides, hence why most people don't view it as a credible source of information. The fact that I can't find this X9300 or QX9700 anymore further proves my point (it was probably deleted).
     
  36. karmadhi

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    I read somewhere that the QX9700 and X9300 will be released in the Q3 of this year and now I found a roadmap

    http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=596

    roadmap of the intel mobile processors and as you can clearly see the Q2 and Q3 show QX????>QX9300 so the rumours seem to be true
     
  38. H-Emmanuel

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    Yeah I agree it sucks that they spend more time releasing another motherboard than simply trying to get a BIOS update... Well I'm not even sure I'll upgrade though because I'm quite happy with my X9100 for now and $480 motherboard + $700 CPU is kind of a lot and I don't work only to raise funds for computers...
     
  39. Berserk515

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    480 + 700 = 1180 =*( mite as well just buy a new computer. But maybe by the time u do decide to upgrade, it'll be a whole lot cheaper b/c of the i7, maybe.
     
  40. H-Emmanuel

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    Mobile i7 is not to be expected for laptops for some time and I really doubt that the prices would really fall for the high end Socket 478 laptop market.
     
  41. Kevin

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    I will only go for this motherboard upgrade if the new ATi 4800 and Nvidia GT200 chips are compatible with this notebook. In 2010, a GT200, paired with at least the 2.53GHz Quad is my ultimate goal, but if the GPU upgrade path is closed, I'll be content with my T9800.
     
  42. H-Emmanuel

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    There's no word on mobile GT200 for now and I'm pretty sure for some reason that they'll run on MXM4 or something lol. Now if we could stick a 9800m GTX, no ever tried it but I'm sure by being a little creative we could have it work.