Eurocom allow quad core option for D900C

Check this link:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,1000000091,39288330,00.htm

Also in eurocom website you can configure laptop with quad core processor

If any body can have hands on such clevo it would be rocking

 

we just went over this a couple of times already

here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=129932

and here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=150852

etc....

True that the Clevo D900C can house and has successfully tested the Q6660, but do to the power requirements, this notebook's current power constraint will not be able to adequately power everything if the quad-core is in there.

So until there is a new PSU/motherboard revision to increase the power, then this is not safe.... in the long run.

 

I though Eurocom is as reliable as Sager,

So I thought they are working closely with Clevo to lunch such system, overcoming power requirement with new motherboard and whatever.

Also Eurocom announced "Lunching Quad Core Processor", so it should be available to public by now and should be as reliable as Core 2 Duo

 

There is no Clevo official word on any of this.

Eurocom, though a great seller/vendor, they sometimes jump the gun for press releases without having full testing and confirmations.

So I would be very suspicious since I have yet to hear from Clevo on such a thing since they did the Q6600 test and Sager engineers deemed to it work, but not recommended due to power consumption.

 

I recently emailed Eurocom about this, as I was curious, and they told me they use the updated (95W) versions of the Quad Core CPUs which allows them to support it without any thermal or stability issues. Also, they say that other Quad Core CPUs will not be supported, as they are 130w, which of course is way too high for the laptop. The 105w versions will supposedly run for about 10 mins before the system shuts down.

 

That is certainly interesting that the new Q6600's will have a G-0 stepping I wonder if Clevo will give us a bios update for it.

Edit: Wow, after looking around a bit the Q6700's will also have G-0 stepping. Now a 2.66Ghz Quad Core I can see switching to!

Just Imagine if they came out with a QX6900! at 95W

Edit: Found this...

"From Tom's Hardware:-

Santa Clara (CA) : Intel has informed its customers that the Core 2
Quad Q6600 desktop quad-core processor as well as the Xeon X3220 and
X3210 server quad-core CPUs have been transitioned to a new stepping,
which will allow customers to integrate the processors in computer
systems using lower power flexible motherboards (FMB).

According to a product change notification released on Friday, the
three processors were transitioned from the B-3 to the G-0 processor
stepping and can now run not only on 105 watt performance FMBs, but on
95 watt mainstream FMBs as well.

The new CPUs, which can be identified by the CPUID "06FB" (B-3
processors were labeled "06F7"), also increase the Tcase, a value that
describes the maximum temperature a CPU can sustain, by 11 degrees
Celsius. According to Intel, this change will allow system builders to
scale back cooling requirements and achieve lower system noise levels
overall.

All three G-0 CPUs require BIOS updates. Samples of the processors are
expected to be available on May 11. General availability of the units
is scheduled for July 16."

 

Ha. Just in time for me to run out of money buying my current processor! Wewts!

Besides a GPU, upgrading a laptop that was just bought recently is absurd. Everything now is GPU bound anyway. Except Supreme Commander. No real reason to upgrade right now, at least not for a while.

Buying new, however, it would be a great option.

 

I wish more games were Multi-CPU optimized. Only a few at this point would benefit from a quad...i.e. Lost Planet, Supreme Commander etc.

Now a Q6700 with 2x8800GTX's in SLI That is going to be the beast to beat....now we just need word on getting 8800's for our D901C's!!!

I wouldn't have imagined that Intel would step up to the plate and lower the TDP for those processors! Great move Intel!!

Now will Clevo step up to the plate and give us a bios update to handle these puppies? If so then the D901C WILL BE the 1st true quad core laptop!

A bit more info on the Q6700's 2.66Ghz x4 baby!

Retail Box Code: BX80562Q6700

Link To Intel Specs

1st place I could find that had them in stock

NewEgg also has them in stock!

Looks like pricing on them is about $580 on the average.

 

Gophn can we conclude that quad core can work on Clevo D900C ?

I cannot wait for bois upgrade from Clevo as D900C motherboard technically support quad core processors but not power needs untill this new G-0 something.

It will be very great for all D900C owners

 

I mentioned the G0 stepping ages ago and nobody seemed to care then. The TDP is still too high. It is only a 10W drop. It was what, 30W over?

 

sorry, Clevo (and most of their reputable resellers) will not recommend or give warranty to those using a quad-core.... at the moment.

Until there is a successful quad-core with the correct specs (TDP) to fit the D900C's specs, it is not going to happen.

I am confident to see a motherboard revision if they [Clevo] want to make this the first quad-core notebook (that's stable).

 

I'm glad to hear that Quads are now supported, at least according to Eurocom. Maybe a BIOS update is needed.

If Eurocom (a reputable re-seller according to many, I have no experience with them) is selling them as an option then it should be true. I don't think Sager is the only distributor that has the hand on technical issues regarding Clevo notebooks. Maybe they asked Clevo to make extensive tests on these new CPU's as Sager did but unfortunately they don't use this forum for public communications.

Anyway, for me this just adds longivity to our investments and makes the price all worth it now inspite of my previous suspitions.

I'll not be upgrading, at least for an year and a half. The time required for all issues to be resolved regarding both new GPU's and Quad Cores in D900c IMHO.

Trance
PS: The best way is to wait for Clevo to update the specs of D900c on their site. Then we will be sure, that is what I do regarding any tech I buy.

 

q6600 = $300 and x6800 = $900

the q6600 is about even in performance across the board and in certain applications where software is written for more than 2 cores it nearly gives double the performance. as more applications are updated to support more than 2 cores the q6600 will see gains accross the board. it does not make any sense to get the x6800 over the q6600 right now. you are paying a $600 premium for less performance if you think about it. not everyone buys these gaming laptops for strictly single threaded games. think high definition video editing from your camcorder, graphics programs and rendering, etc. the quad cores shine above the rest right now.

 

LATEST UPDATE from Sager regarding Intel Quad Core support on Sager NP9260 (D901C)

"We wanted to provide our customers with an update on availability of quad core processors in our NP9260 (D901C) units. We do not currently use quad core processors because the wattage requirement (105 watts) makes the unit unstable. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=129932

We have known for some time that Intel would be launching its recently announced 95 watt version of the quad core processor. We have seen some claims that this lower wattage requirement will solve issues for usage in the Clevo D901C. While we are hopeful that the new processors will be a workable solution, we have not released any information about our plans because Clevo (our ODM) has not done any testing regarding the compatibility of the new processor in their labs. When that testing has been done, we will be able to provide more information. The reason we haven’t spoken to this issue is simply because we are committed to giving our customers accurate information based on fact.

We will provide further updates as soon as we have more information."

 

Thanks for the update Donald. Appreciate it. I hope that this works for our notebooks. And it looks like the price of the Q6700's will be about $580 atm. Maybe cheaper $500 on ebay. Which is still a good savings vs the X6800.

 

Where did you get your pricing information? $309.99 for Q6600 (retail)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

 

So, How do i tell or make sure what i order and recieve is the 95w version of the quad core??

 

Lol, fixed. I meant the Q6700 was about $580... here.

Both the new G0 stepping for the Q6600 and Q6700 are 95W TDP. If one will work the other should work. Why not get that extra .26 x 4 = 1.04Ghz

 

This one here is the 105W version. DO NOT GET IT.

This one here is the 95W version. DO NOT GET IT, YET! Wait till we get word that it will work!

Make sure you get the right one if you going Q6600, as they both have the same name. The Q6700 (95W TDP) is named differently than the QX6700 (130W TDP) Version.

I'm quite impressed they can get a 130W chip down to 95W, though.

 

problem is that sites like newegg / mwave and other online stores including ebay. does not list the details to tell 105w vs 95w apart.

so there is noway to make sure what i order is the correct one.

 

you can get the 95w version from ClubIT.com

the 95w version is the GO stepping and it appears to be selling out everywhere right now. make sure you specifically ask for this GO stepping when ordering anywere.

the lower TDP of the GO stepping allows overclockers to get higher speeds and i am betting it is compatible with the D900C clevo.

 

/sigh

Let me make it simple for you then.

QX6700 = Bad

Q6700 = Good

Q6600 is the only one you really have to check the specs on since its got the same Box Order Code and OEM Order Code.

 

For those even thinking about using the 105Watt Quad please read the announcement from Clevo carefully... IT WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY

This is directly from Clevo:

"Dear Customers:

We want to confirm for you that our testing confirms that the current 105 watt quad core processors are not usable in our laptops. Use of those processors will result in system malfunction and will void any and all warranties. We have been aware that Intel is introducing a 95 watt version of this processor, but we have not yet conducted any compatibility testing. Until such time as we complete such testing and confirm that the processor is compatible with our units, installation of this processor will void any and all warranties. We have not given any of our customers authorization to use either the 105 watt or 95 watt Quad Core processor and will not until we are able to confirm through testing that the processor is compatible with our units.

Any questions please contact with us. Thank you.

Best Regards

Allen Hsieh
Director of US sales Dept.
Clevo Co.
Tel: +886-2-22789696 ext: 2375
Fax: +886-2-22789595
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.clevo.com.tw"

 

Thanks for posting this (and yes, I've quoted it entirely hoping more people will accidently see it). I'm really hoping that people are not planning on trying this on their home machines, and if you do, I hope your warranties don't cover any damage that might be done.

 

Eurocom is also offering SLI 512MB 8700GTs on the D900C!