Eurocom offering 9800M GTX SLI

I am bit confused... anyways i got this from anther post and thought it worthy of its own post.
Euro-com are offering in the configuration 2x9800M GTX total 2 GB...
http://www.eurocom.com/

Have seen this on any other vendor...any thoughts?

 

Call them and they will tell you that nVidia is still testing the 9800 GTX's and that they (nVidia) are having issues with them (9800 GTX's). They do not have them, but have been told they will be offered in SLI for this computer. I asked them the ETA, and they said that it appears it will be "late August".

 

Are yoiu sure is GTX? Most of the vendors are offering the 9800 GT.

PL

 

It's listed there but I'd hold off on ordering until it's been announced that it's actually supported.

 

Wow, this is some interesting news!!! Even if it's speculative...better than nothing!

 

Eurocom puts everything on their site that they are told will be supported. This includes the 9800M GTX and the 9800M GTX in SLI. Like ProStar and Sager, Eurocom are major distributors of Clevo units.

 

The 9800M GTX SLi will most certainly be available for the D901C , if not now, then in the future someday, maybe after a few revisions

 

Eurocom also continues to have the 3870 listed as an option on the M860, and we know that one isn't coming any time soon.

Grain of salt.

 

Yeah. I am still waiting to hear back from Eurocom with some quotes. I talked to them the other day and they told me they would get back to me as soon as possible.

 

Alfoz, the first thing that you should be wary of is their statement that you have a total of 2GB of GPU RAM. That is either a deliberate misrepresentation, or they do not know what they are talking about. In an SLi system I guess technically there is 2GB on the cards but only the RAM from the primary card is used. The second card lends its processor only, not it's RAM.

Second thing... the card isn't released yet. They don't have it, and in reading through these forums and seeing first-hand the confusion that these pre-orders, promises and misrepresentations create is not only disconcerting, but is all but an epidemic. Eurocom is absolutely famous for this stuff.

 

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Hmmm, well it doesn't exactly work that way.

Each card is given a separate task with alternate frames, each card rendering one frame at a time.

Therefore each card would be using its own 1GB of memory (or 512MB if that is what they have)...the 2nd card does not use the primary card's memory at all.

Now, that means that between the 2 cards there is 2x1GB of memory physically on each card for a total of 2GB, but since the frames are being rendered alternatively, there is never more than 1GB of GDDR working on any individual frame.

However you are correct in that the 9800M GTX has not been released yet, and that Eurocom is indeed famous for putting things on their website waaaay before they are released, and by doing that it is not unusual for what is on their site to never get released.

 

Hey Paladin, what would you say is the approximate performance increase with the 9800M GTX over the 9800M GT? I figure that you have a lot of experience seeing many cards with their GT and GTX versions. What are typical numbers?

Thanks!

 

I cannot forecast the performance of what does not yet exist.

Predicting based on past performance of the difference between GT and GTX versions would serve no real purpose, and in this case particularly so since the 9800M GT used to be the 8800M GTX.

 

hummm, that bothers me. I'm currently considering buying from Eurocom; does this reflect their reliability at all?

 

I am also considering a buy from them. However, as the days go by and I am not contacted regarding my quote for the D901C, I am losing my hope. I originally received a quick response from John Shore and then he went on vacation. Now I am waiting to hear back from Ken. I'll cross my fingers and hope he pulls through with an email very soon.

 

Ok, I don't know how it works. I guess when I have built scores of SLi desktops and notebooks, and read this on HOW SLi WORKS I am mis-understanding a fundamental technical aspect...

 

Kind sir, I never said nor implied that you could cumulate the memory.

Your statement said

Which as I pointed out is not accurate, and which I humbly corrected.

Do you claim my correction is inaccurate?

 

Oh I see. You are saying that AFR, or Alternate Frame Rendering, one possible way that an Sli system can render is SLi itself???

My definition suffers from oversimplification making it technically incorrect. What I should have said, (had I realized that the 2 GB of RAM that Eurocom is advertising, and the poster asked about was not the main issue) was, "Think of it in this way, SLi can utilize multiple cards that are fundamentally similar, you can even use cards with differing amounts of RAM together in Sli. The card with the most RAM should be used in the primary slot, but the MAXIMUM amount of RAM you will get out of the system is the LOWEST amount of RAM that either of the cards has. Simpler yet, think of the first card in an identical RAM system as utilizing all of its RAM and the second card simply lending its processor."

I mistakenly thought that simplifying the answer to the OP who was confused in the first place would be for the best. In reading that technical mess of a paragraph I see how that makes much more sense to someone that is confused. My mistake.

 

I apologize for my ignorance, but if SLi only uses the primary card's RAM and the second card only lends its processor, then why does the primary card need to disable some of its RAM to match the second card's amount (in a mismatched setup)? It seems like the secondary card's amount of RAM would be irrelevant if only the primary card's RAM even gets used. Since it has to adjust to match the lower amount of RAM, that would suggest to me that the RAM on both cards is being used in parallel, though not cumulatively.

 

I spoke with a representative today and he told me that the 9800m GTX will be available from the middle of september...

I placed an order for the Phantom so I'll keep u guys updated on how it goes

 

I guess i'll get my laptop in november ..the way things are going....and maybe then we have something new coming up....OH NOOO

 

9800M GTX SLI is now officially available - I know our official eta was the 17th September and it's actually turned out to be sooner than that

As for the X3370 query, it's pretty unlikely you'll see any temperature difference between it and the Q9650 and I'm not sure when the X3370s will actually be available. I haven't had a confirmed eta from Intel yet though the States always seem to have availablilty just before europe !! The Q9650s run fine heat wise in the chassis btw.

 

That's awesome news! Will you be able to get a few benchmarks on the SLI systems by any chance?

Thanks in advance