FYI - GLOSSY WSXGA BACK ORDER on 5760 / 570U

FYI -

Due to popularity of the $300.00 promotion on the Sager 5760, the WSXGA+ Glare Type Screens are out of stock.

WSXGA+ screen orders will be back ordered till May 10th, 2007

 

Wow, looks like I ordered mine just in time! I hope there is nothing wrong with it where it needs replaced cause it doesn't look like I'd get a replacement any time soon.

 

Thanks for the update Justin. Sounds like the $300 promotion bumped up sales a lot.

 

whats the biggest diffrence between the WUXGA and the WSXGA+ ? worth the wait until may 10?

 

WUXGA uses 1920x1200 native resolution. WSXGA uses 1680x1050.

 

According to Sager, the only other difference is that the WUXGA has lower viewing angles.

 

The WSXGA is brighter and higher contrast as well.

 

What's your source on this? I only ask because Sager tech support told me that both screens have the same contrast ratio.

 

I wonder how tiny the things on a notebooks limited size screen are going to get before the vendors realize that people can't see it?

I guess nobody cares about healthy viewing distance from the screen?

 

The specs show the WUXGA is brighter and has higher contrast (via PowerNotebooks.com forum). It also shows the viewing angles as identical.

Here's the WUXGA...

And here's the WSXGA+...

Unless these specs are wrong or outdated, the WUXGA seems to be the better screen, if you can handle the resolution.

 

Ooooh.... thanks for posting that Dreamcat. Those are more detailed than the response that I got, and I know that Donald is reliable, so I would be inclined to take those as accurate. I think someone over at Sager tech support just wanted to give me the brush off.

 

Actually im pretty sure the lcds for the Wsxga screen has changed from most comments from my previous post. Most of them have agreed the wsxga screen is brighter. The wsxga screen is already obsolete and is not posted on the lg philips web. This is the new screen available with 300 nitts brightness and 600 contrast ratio.

specs from http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/homeContain/jsp/eng/prd/prd300_j_e.jsp

wuxga - LP171WU1
wsxga - LP171WE2

The wsxga screen with 170 nitts brightness and 400 contrast ratio has been replaced and became obsolete. This is the new wsxga screen.

 

If that's the case, I ordered based on the wrong info.
190nits to 300nits sounds like the WSXGA+ would be much brighter than the WUXGA! 300nits is supposedly optimal for an LCD.
I guess I'll have to wait until it arrives and see how the screen is.
I returned a Dell a week after getting it, and a main reason was lack of screen brightness.
It also had a 17 inch WUXGA, but made by Sharp. Hopefully this LG screen is brighter and nicer looking.
I'd hate to have to return it for a lower res screen, because of brightness.

 

Thats what makes me confused before also, the screen choosing The dell xps m1710 wuxga screen has a brightness of 240 nits while the normal dell wuxga 17 inch screen is 200 nits. So the dell and clevo wuxga screen are similar quality. As you can see from the LG-philips website, the old version of the wsxga is not available anymore

 

I too had checked the same details from Sager website and had come to the conclusion that the WUXGA screen was brighter..

Seems like me too was mistaken..

Would get the lappie this week so then can see for myself how good is the screen.

 

I love my WUXGA screen in my Clevo (about 1 year old now).

No matter which screen you get, you should be happy with it... have no regrets.

 

I received my 5760 today and got the WSXGA with it. I have to admit, I am pretty disappointed with its brightness. I have to literally sit in front of it to see anything decently. I can't see anything from the sides but a faint picture.

I have an HP Pavilion dv8000 and the screen is absolutely amazing. I can see from any angle as if I was looking directly at it. It's also very very bright and the colors seem to be a lot better.

I hope that I have a bad screen because I am unsure whether to return the notebook completely or just get a new screen for it.

 

Did you try to increase the brightness with the function keys?

Make sure to plug it in to AC power to get best lighting (its usually dimmer on battery to save power).

Game on it, and should not even care about the angles.

 

Yes, I used the function keys and it was actually all the way up when I tried it. There aren't very many levels of brightness.

I also have another small problem with it. The lower two corners have blackness fading into the Windows symbol on the Start Menu and the AM/PM on the clock. For that alone I will be returning it.

EDIT

Since I don't have a digital camera I had to use my cell phone. Tomorrow I will take my laptop to work to take better pictures for my reseller.



HP is on the left, Sager on the right. Notice the brightness difference? When working with a glossy screen I really need to have it bright or the reflections give me headaches.

 

The dv8000 uses dual lamp screen and its WXGA resolution. Nothing in the notebook world except the Qosmio G35 with the WXGA (not the wuxga)screen its brighter than your dv8000 Check out the lg-philips website i posted earlier, and chekout that the WXGA screen has a 500 nits brightness. In conclusion, for a 17 inch, the lower resolution the brighter. And i did alot of research in screens before gettiing one

 

So basically even if I get my screen replaced from my other problem it won't be any brighter than what it is? My only other option is to turn on the brightness from the nvidia controls itself which makes washed out colors.

 

I didn't see it mentioned...Did you use the brightness-up key combination by pressing FN+F9 multiple times? The WXGA (1440x900) is very bright, but then again it's a lower res screen as mentioned.

 

Yes, I have tried to do that. I've gone up and down and what is shown in my attached photo is the highest.

 

I just ordered one of these last night... wish I had seen the this post about the back order before I placed my order, there was no mention of this on their site

EDIT: NM, I'm stupid and didn't realize that this is just for the GLOSSY screens.

BTW, I contacted Justin at Xotic and he responded in record time. Customer service like that is the reason I'll never buy from a place like Dell again. Xotic FTW.

 

I have a dv9000t with the ultra-bright, dual lamp screen and I am interested in the 5760, but I am concerned about the brightness. I understand that a single lamp will not be as bright... but you make it sound extreme. I would really like to see some better pics. I assume that you have the glossy screen right? It is advertised as having a wide viewing angle, but you dont agree. Please post some more pics, because this could be a deal breaker.

Further, if anyone has the WSXGA+ Glossy or matte, how about some pictures to compare. Preferably in a partially lit room (at least) to be fair. I have seen similar posts including one of my own, and no pictures yet. I have read the two complete reviews, but the pics make it hard to judge.

Does anyone have the specification for the Matte display, is it the same as the glossy?

 

I plan on taking some more photos tomorrow evening. I am using the glossy screen.

I'd like to be fair though. My first notebook was the dv8000 so downgrading the 5760's brightness level was really disappointing to me. I was unaware of the technical reasons for why the 5760 is so dim in comparison.

1). Higher resolutions mean less brightness
2). More powerful components (GPU) means less power allocated to LCD panel

 

You probably have the brightest screen available on the market in your HP; anything you get is likely to be less bright. Most laptops are single lamp.

You'll definitely see decreased brightness with the NP5760 but the resolution is so much higher. I think it's a good trade-off. Don't forget Sager notebooks have a 30-day return guarantee.

 

If you read the reviews and virtually everyone's comments in this Forum about the NP5760 you will become aware that no one has previously commented that the brightness, viewing angle or contrast ratio are anything but great.

Comparing the brightness of the NP5760's single lamp, high resolution, 17" screen to a dual lamp, low resolution, 17" screen will indeed yield less brightness in the NP5760.

However when you compare the Sager's higher resolution screen with the NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GTX w/512MB to the lower resolution HP screen with the NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 w/256MB you just have to decide what is most important to you.

In any event "Total Satisfaction" is what Sager guarantees, and you have already been issued an RMA with return instructions so that you can get your refund.

 

I got my 5760 yesterday, and while the brightness isn't blinding, it is plenty good enough to be called a great LCD. Much nicer looking than the Sharp LCD that was on the Dell 1705 that I returned. I would say it is a 7.5 out of 10. The Dell screen was a 4.5.
Matter of fact, it looks better than my wife's Sony Vaio. Her's is so bright, it hurts the contrast. LOL - She just told me to shut the LCD off because it is too bright to have on while we watch a movie. So there ya go.
Besides one dead pixel (upper left corner - no big deal), I think I am completely satisfied with the LCD and the laptop overall.
A weekend of testing it out will tell for sure.
If I keep it (I plan on it so far), I'll write up a review.