Fellow P65_67RSRP owners, or same GTX1070 GPU ID, I need help

Hi everyone,

I'm having a big problem with my Clevo laptop.
I would need the original vBIOS for the GTX 1070 with this ID: 10DE 1BE1 1558 6A03
I looked in the web but apparently nobody had this same ID, not a single vBIOS from the collection on Techpowerup. I can't really understand which kind of GPU it is, if it's a Max-Q design or standard, nothing. I made a mess and I lost the original vBIOS, I tried flashing different versions but I can't find a working one.

Is there a good soul with my same ID willing to share a backup copy of the original vBIOS?
Thanks in advance for any help given!
Nicola

 

Anyone with the same machine should be able to share it. If it's not working it's either really corrupted or dead.

 

Yeah, to understand if it's totally fried or not I need to try with the original vBIOS, but it seems very difficult to find... not many GPUs like mine around
As for now it works randomly, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't... So I guess the GPU is still able to work properly, and this gives me hope to fix it somehow!

 

Could be a bad solder joint doing that.

 

Could it? Sorry if I divert the topic a bit, but have you experienced something similar? I am not an electro technician, but do you think it could be fixed easily? The propsect of changing motherboard is so expensive, I don't even want to think about that.....

 

using the p670rsg which uses that bio as you can see the bios vbios is almost the same.

its defo not a max q gpu, I have included a dump of it just incase

 

Thank you very much! I can't try it today, but tomorrow I'll flash it and hopefully I'll get my system working again.
Thanks for the clarification as well! Just for curiosity, why in the system specs it's listed as a 4 GB gpu, if on gpu-z it shows it has 8?

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Because the left program is wrong, no such thing as a 4GB 1070.

 

Well this is weird. If I flash the vBIOS that squee666 generously provided, I can't use my GPU at all. Windows does recognize it as a GTX1070, allowing m to install drivers either through Windows Update or manually, but then I get an Error 43 (Windows stopped this device because it does not function properly) and it's like not having it. I then tried to flash the same vBIOS I flashed before, which is 161 KB in size, compared to that squee666's 227 KB, and the card started working again. For the moment of course, I can launch games and all works like a charm. I can even shut down the system for a while or restart it and it's still fine. But the day after it stops working again, for no apparent reasons. I was hoping this vBIOS with practically the same ID would work but it seems like it doesn't. The one I flashed now comes from Techpowerup's BIOS collection, unverified upload, as a generic nVIDIA GTX 1070 mobile.

Do you guys have any hint on what might be going on here? I'm really losing hope
Thank you and sorry for the long post!
Nicola

 

I take it you did not take a backup before flashing it the first time?

 

You take it right... or better, I did one backup copy, but I later lost it on the wrong hard drive.... I don't even remember the size of the rom itself, I definitely sc***ed up
One guy on reddit had my same device ID, exactly the same, and he said the backup rom file was about 161 KB, that's why I have been using this one I found on tehcpowerup, and honestly it seems to be working fine. I still have to check the bad solder joint you advised me before, but I lack the tool at the moment (I just moved abroad).

 

Have you tried doing this first

Uninstalling your drivers for IGPU and GPU
error 43 means the device is detected it just having issues, reading up many things can cause the issues

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...p-windows-10-how-i-solved-the-code-43-error-/

but yeah 226KB is the normal size, other bios dumps from techpowerup for gtx1070 gpus including the mobiles marked versions are around 242kb+

 

Hi Squee666,

I tried all the things you advised but not in that precise order, so I guess it's worth a try. I will do it this evening. Just a question, would you download the drivers from NVIDIA offical website, or use the one provided by Clevo (as outdate as they are?).
I ask because it seems that Clevo release dedicated drivers that are certified to run with their hardware... don't know if it's a serious matter or not, but as far as I'm troubleshooting, worth doing it properly.

Thank you!

 

clevo drivers im pretty sure are just the generic nvidia ones. specific device drivers like that were only a thing on older models sub windows 7 everything got more streamline later on.
usually specific drivers are the ones for your inbuilt soundcard and the control center

 

Cool, that's good to know. So I'll just download the latest from NVIDIA and use those in the process you just advised.
Thank you again for the help!

 

Pretty much these days on the standard driver being the recommended to go for.

 

So, no way I got it working using the vBIOS of squee666.
I followed the procedure.... so the DDU removal, wushowhide to prevent the windows update install, removed both Intel and Nvidia driver... but at all these stages the GTX 1070 was not available, always with this Error 43 mark. At the end of all this, i just flashed again the 161 KB bios and the card works normally. Normally, or at least sort of. It is recognized, but if I try to play some game, it'll crash with a BSOD. The only way it works flwlessly is if I unplug the power cord and run it on battery. Like that it's fine, If I plug the power during the game sometimes it crashes and restart,sometimes it keeps on running. Very weird. Could this be caused by the bad solder joint? Do you see a pattern that would link it as the probable cause of the problem?

 

What happens if you heavily underclock the gpu on mains? On battery it will not be running at full speed.

 

I tried underclocking using both the Clevo control center or MSI Afterburner, I don't remember exactly but I think I lowered it by 200 Mhz... at least! With no consequences, nothing happens in any case... Maybe you know if there is a way to have the GPU behave as if it's on battery, even if it's plugged in? I already changed some Windows power mode features but again, no success

 

Nvidia inspector was able to force gpu p states when I last checked.

 

So I tried Nvidia inspector. I was able to drop down the gpu clock by 200Hz, saved then configuration, create a shortcut and put it in windows autostart folder. The system worked. I shut it down, turned it on, I t worked. I rebooted it, it worked.
This morning I decide to give another try, I just plug it, turn it on, start a game and again, BSOD. If it was not a machine, I'd say he's doing it on purpose, it's a joke.. I will ask a friend to bring me the tools so I can check the bad solder joint, since its the only thing left i can do, and hopefully it'll be that..

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The solder can be between Nvidia's package and the die is the only issue. Being warm and working and cold and not is a classic symptom of something physical like that.

 

Thank you man.
Imagine that I brought the PC to a laptop repair center and they told me the problem was the opposite, overheating... even if I told them that as soon as I turn on the PC and it's stone cold it would not work anyway.
"Glad" to know it's a common symptom, could mean that it's really this causing all my troubles.

I'll keep you posted!
Nicola

 

same as had with my gtx 980m and that one was dead.

 

It's more thermal temperature swings that do the connections in eventually.

 

Hey man!
What do you, that you had the same exact problem as I have?
I can't really believe it's "dead" since I am anyway able to play from time to time... if I just could not use, I would've given up long time ago, but like this....
In these days I'm keep on trying but so far it seems that, once the laptop temperature is high, it works properly even when plugged in.
Seems fair that this problem Meaker pointed out (bad solder joint) could be the real cause!

 

Yes i agree that it's solder joints but i tryed the oven trick as well when every thing else failed but so dit the oven trick. with me.
the R56 got very hot and the 470uf caps so there is a kind of short i think....i still have it here and trying to fix them with new caps and R56 cap (will post some pic,s ltr).

 

i have changed the R56 and the 470uf it started working again but after 20 minutes my powerbrick crashed and the card died so i think it was a bad card after all.

 

Hi,
Thanks for the follow up, really appreciate it! So the conclusion is that it's kinda unfixable, like a bad card from the beginning that deteriorate over time and we can't just get it working. Too bad. I will give up on that and just assemble myself a desktop, for as much as it hurts to drop a 1070 in the drawer, since it's still a fairly capable card.
Again thanks for your comments, cheers!

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The issue is one component failure can lead to a cascade failure so even if you fix what originally made it bad you might not be able to recover it.