Few questions about Sager notebooks

Hey guys, I'm thinking of getting a Sager but still have a few questions, if you could help in my decision I'd be very grateful.

I'm thinking of the NP5165/5160/3250 and don't really care for whatever graphics they provide since I'll be doing minimal gaming anyway. But what I want to know is:
1. Is it possible or has anyone here swapped out the graphics card with a NVIDIA Quadro?
2. Will all 2.5" SSDs fit into the normal HDD bay?

 

Please don't get upset, but I just HAVE to ask you something--if you aren't going to be much gaming, could you explain what prompted you to get a Sager? I just ordered one because the current HP's don't do switching of the graphics cards properly for some apps I use, so I'm forced to switch gears and go with a Sager which has ONLY a discrete card. That way there is zero possibility I'll encounter an issue with switching. Switching from a comparable HP (with discounts) to a Sager, is costing me about $600 extra. I'm not poor; nor am I rich, so the extra $600 won't kill me but I am not happy about the cost differential because of how HP/AMD dropped the ball.

 

The models you listed do not have upgradable graphics cards so you wont be able to put a Quadro card in them.
2.5" SSD drives will fit it the HDD bay no problem, even smaller SSD drives should come with mounting bracket to make it fit

@dave1812, The Sager models Candull listed don't ONLY have a discrete card, they all use Optimus technology which switches from the integrated card and dedicated card. All their other models do only work on a dedicated gpu

 

ah. thx!

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Believe me, Optimus isn't much better in this regard. When it works, it's fantastic, but your preferred deity help you if it doesn't. The cost differential for me to upgrade to the Clevo P151HM1 (Sager NP8130) from the W150HRQ (Sager NP5165) was a shade more than $200, but not having to worry about switchable graphics is well worth the price.

 

That's why I opted to spend more money--to avoid the hassle of problematic switching no matter if it's AMD or Nvidia's methods. Things are supposed to get better over time--not deteriorate! What are these GPU vendors thinking? /rhetorical

 

The thing is, I think graphic switching is a fantastic idea. It's just that it hasn't been implemented very well. The only machine that's come close to my personal ideal is the Alienware M11x R1. Its manual switching gave you real control over how you wanted to work. The big drawback, though, was that you were reliant on Dell to provide drivers. You could use NVIDIA's reference drivers on that machine, but you'd lose the ability to switch.

It's been discussed in a few other threads here, but the best way implement this solution would be to incorporate a physical switch that would require you to reboot your machine every time you wanted to change. Yes, it's a tad inconvenient, but this way you would always know which GPU was working, and you could use their respective reference drivers at all times.

 

I had one machine that switched when I wanted it too and it worked flawlessly--the DV6 that I ordered in mid April. Also, my wife's DM4, from last year, also works fine in manual mode. Because HP came out with an HD screen and I was having other issues with my DV6, I opted to return it and get one with the HD screen. that's when things went sour--HP switched to auto-switching graphics between my first and second DV6. No fix is in sight, so I returned it. Basically, IMO, switchable graphics is a "solution" for a problem that didn't exist.