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    Flashing 9800M GTS to 9800M GT

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Baptiste, Jan 17, 2009.

  1. Baptiste

    Baptiste Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    I've a 9800M GTS and I can't o/c it. How to flash my 9800M GTS ?

    Thanks

    An other question, I've a Clevo M860TU and when I run SetFSB I've a FSB 963/760 !! And when I overclock my processor the clock is at 2,4GHz and my computer reboot automatically. Can you help me ?
     
  2. Deathwinger

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    Why don't you just be happy with the GTS and not try to brick your system bro?

    The 2.4 GHZ normally comes on just before the overclock is supposed to work. Attempt it again by hitting set FSB and then waiting a few seconds, move the slider down and then back up, and then press Set FSB again. Even if the system restarts, when you restart set FSB, the GHZ should be 2.7 now.
     
  3. ioaniro

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    I might be mistaken but I think the 9800GTS is an overclocked GT with fewer shaders, and the clock values of the GTS are basically the values reported as safe overclock on the 9800GT. I doubt you could push it further than its actual clocks (the 9800gts i mean) without problems.
     
  4. Audigy

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    The 9800M GTS use a different core, the G94(the one used on desktop's 9600GT). The 9800M GT use the G92 core(used on 8800GS).

    ;)
     
  5. 000022

    000022 Notebook Consultant

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    Could you please elaborate more on this? I've been meaning to overclock my processor to a higher clock instead of the 2.4 with the p8400 using setfsb
     
  6. SUADE8880

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    The 9800m gts is a very capable card to overclock with out a hitch. Can get that card to surpass 10k on 3dmark06 easy and be absolutely stable with no major rise in heat.

    Baptiste, I found out the only way to overclock my card was to flash vbios. Search the forum like I did, there are a lot of info. on how to do so. Sorry, to lazy to search for you.
     
  7. ioaniro

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    so i was mistaken :D
     
  8. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    ^^ correct.

    the two cards are physically different with different cores and different shader processors.

    I think you were thinking about the 9800M GTS and the GS.... which are the same, but with slightly different clocks.
     
  9. Baptiste

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    ok SUADE8880 thanks, i'll be searchig this. :)

    About my problem with SetFSB i've trying to move the cursor after clicking "SetFSB" but the computer reboot too. And the maximum clock is 2,7Ghz after reboot, I can't choose the frequence ! It's 2,7ghz or 2,5(the original clock)
     
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  11. SUADE8880

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    Hey Baptiste, what clock generator did you use for SetFSB?
     
  12. Baptiste

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    I use the RTM876-660, but I don't know if I select the "Ultra".
    When I click SetFSB my pc reboot and after another reboot the frequence is 2,5Ghz.
     
  13. Kevin

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    "Easy" with what processor?
     
  14. SUADE8880

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    With the p9500 processor

    When overclock to 730/1750/940 it gets pass the 10k plane

    I think my max was 760/1800/970 for around 10600

    Currently I'm set at 745/1780/960 around 10300 with max temp at 76c full stabilization with no problems what so ever.
     
  15. Johnksss

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    hummm. tell you what...

    go run crysis at your highest resolution, but at medium settings for about 20 minutes or so... if it stays up and running...then your good to go.
     
  16. SUADE8880

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    Ya, I think I'm ok because I have been playing crysis and so far there haven't been any problems. I'm amazed it runs smooth with the set up mod ccc 1.2 on high with full resolution (1680x1050). Most of the time the fps is around 25-30. I'm telling you, this laptop is a beast. :p
     
  17. Kevin

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    Jeez you have to clock the GTS insanely high to get decent numbers. :eek:

    Please run Furmark's Stability Test at 1680x1050 for an hour then tell me your max temp.
     
  18. SUADE8880

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    I know its crazy isn't it. What I don't get is my temperature really doesn't rise all that much. I monitor my temps to make sure it doesn't get too high every time I play games but so far its been doing fine. I could play games a couple hours straight with out any problems at all. That is why I kept it overclocked at that level because so far it is as stable as it can get.
     
  19. Johnksss

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    then that's good enough for me! :) looks like your good to go.

    if the card is going to heat up...usually only takes about 5 minutes or so, but artifacting can show up later of course... and as for the 9800m gts.. they are some serious over clockers for real.

    3dmark06 11,115 gateway 7811fx/x9000@1280x1024
    Core clock 753
    Memory clock 1009
    Shader Memory 1800 or so. i forget.
     
  20. SUADE8880

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    Ya, I agree. Some thing about the 9800m gts make them serious overclockers. I don't even think I have pushed mine to its limit yet but I'm good for now where its at.
     
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    the rest is up to your cpu...a stronger cpu will push it past my score easily. so don't worry...your only scratching the surface right now. your card is good for about 12k when it's finally done and over with.
     
  22. Kevin

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    12k with a GTS? Impossible in the M860TU. E-wrecked had to overclock his CPU like crazy to reach as high as he did. The GTS needs way higher clocks to keep up with the GT, so it just can't surpass it. Overclocked to just 600/1500/900 with my P8400 I hit 10k easily, whereas the GTS needs 745/1780/960 and a P9500 to cross the mark? There's just not enough juice left in the tank.

    Heck, I'll never hit 12k with my T9800 onboard, unless I get a hold of on of those new mobile 4850s.
     
  23. Johnksss

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    see...now you didn't catch what i was talking about now did ya...lol

    if you run a quad core, you can hit 12k not with a dual core. no way possible.

    i was at 11.1k with an x9000. so add an over clocked quad and 12k is very do able. your talking to someone who was told the 9800m gtx was even with a 9800m gt..lol. well all them post have long since stopped..lol
     
  24. contactluke

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    Is the GT really that much faster than the GTS?
    What would the GTS have to be clocked to, in order to be equal to a GT at stock speeds?
     
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    yes it is. when put up with the right components.
    can't say for sure...i don't remember.
     
  26. Deathwinger

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    Why does anyone care about 3dmark06 scores?

    What happened to using the computer and deciding how well something ran based on how responsive and efficient it was?
     
  27. Johnksss

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    simple.
    it's where you can open up your system and do a flat out run for speed. that's why. then compare against many others around the world. it's also a starting ground for everyone to start at. and just like the desktop arena, it's now getting to be a bit more serious with the laptops.

    this is exactly why i bought this and not a whitebook. quite a few people bought a whitebook based on 3dmark and the new options it had. now everyone can't wait to upgrade....
     
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    Apparently you have all o/c your cards, but how did you do?
     
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    Thanks Johnksss !!! :)
     
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    no problem