For those looking to Upgrade your 8760/8690 AC adapter

I found a seller on ebay that is selling a few brand new Li Shin 160W power supplies with a 2.5mm jack that fits the Sager 8760/8690 laptops.

The seller has a good rating and the price is $38.90 with free shipping.
This a pretty good deal on these.

I have been looking for these for about a month and they are hard to find.
This supply has been discussed in the owners lounges and make a good upgrade for those looking for a higher wattage supply.

I ordered mine today and should have it later this coming week.

Linky:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NW-20V-8A-160W-...ZLaptop_Adapters_Chargers?hash=item5631a87721

 

thanks for this +1 rep, wahts the benefits of having this power supply ?

 

Well several

1. It gives you a nice margin of extra power if you are doing some intensive task that uses a lot of resources simultaneously like the CPU, GPU, Hard drive etc. For the configuration I have that will come in handy.

2. Should run cooler under light load.

3. I am not sure if the stock adapter has a straight or right angle plug, but this one should come with the straight as shown in the pic.

 

Thanks might invest in one, im not going to be intensly over clocking but if it will give me better performance then might get one. Especially if I plan to get an extreme CPU in the future.

Call me stupid but I dont know what a streight pin and right angle plug is lol, probably would if I saw one

 

Good eBay hunting, othonda. The seller looks legit. I don't know if the product is sold as new though.

fluffyuk. Your current PSU has a right angle plug. The one in the link has a straight plug.

 

Voltage is higher.

This won't be a problem?

 

No. 10char

 

SS you beat me to right the answer.

I just got an email saying that the package has been shipped, they must work weekends. Doesn't say what kind of service though. Should take 3-4 days at the most.

 

It should give potentially better performance since the speed of the mobile i7 among other factors, depend on them keeping within their wattage threshold so lots of power hungry components being used along with an extreme CPU for example, might limit the maximum speed of the CPU but this adapter should give it more breathing space in theory.

The only issue I can see is if the Bios overrides the wattage related CPU performance regardless of the AC adapter output.

 

Thanks laptopNut but I dint get the last bit of that lol. Did I get it right, that even if you have the extra power from the adapter then the BIOS may just limit the power be drawn anyway ?

If you guys say its a sound investment then I might get one.

 

There hasn't been any problems pushing the 920XM to it's fastest without power related issues thus far, meaning that TDC hasn't been breached yet as the MOSFET's are the ones that determine whether the CPU will cut back. This along with the other electrical components that power the CPU are monitored by the ACPI. If the MOSFET's are getting too hot when drawing a certain current at a given voltage, they will trigger the ACPI to cut back. The same goes for the others. If the capacitors cannot store enough power to feed the CPU, it wil cut back. All of this contribute to the TDC limit.

A larger PSU will only help overall power consumption, meaning if you stuck a disc into your ODD, juked the brightness up to 100%, charged the battery, occupied all your USB ports with devices, thrashed the HDD's, and ran a CPU and GPU stress test, the notebook won't falter as it has a larger power reserve to draw from. That's really the only reason why I bought my PSU to begin with.

 

Thanks Soviet much appreciated, although most went over my heard I got the overall jist of things. Think ill check the bank balance after the sentinel mouse and Clevo shipping. However dont think me with my
720QM will be to much for the current power supply.

 

The only reason anybody should get a larger PSU is if they are using their notebook under extreme conditions. Benchmark applications such as 3DMark06 do not fall under extreme conditions. A larger PSU will also not help attain a higher overclock as the PCI-E slot for the GPU is limited to 100W TDP, just like the current desktop PCI-E slots, which are limited to 300W per slot.

I think people have forgotten the reason why one should buy a larger PSU. I remember in the W870CU owners lounge where gedekran and Eriand were b*tching about their notebook faltering from running a CPU and GPU stress test in parallel. Not too many details were given as to specifically what "realistic" software they were running, but on the hardware side, they managed to force the notebook to it's knees by having the notebook charge the battery and run a DVD and stress test the CPU and GPU. Is this a real situation for you guys? You be the judge. I bet you guys wouldn't drive your car down the central valley I-5 at a constant 150km/h. Ever since I bought and modded my PSU, people started following me for the wrong reasons despite the number of times I repeated myself for the real reason why I bought it. But I will share one more key reason that I have not said yet until now in this post: I bought a larger PSU because it gave me something to do. In other words, to feed my boredom that lingers between the huge workload recently from school as well as successfully taking the coveted California EIT and awaiting my results.

Is this another form of group panic? Definitely yes. Are there people with the 120W PSU suffering when they use their notebook on a daily basis? No, and that includes myself. Is there a mandatory need for a 160W PSU? Absolutely not. Is a used 160W PSU for $39 a good deal? Hell yes. Like I said before, one can buy the 160W unit for home and use the 120W for the road.

 

The last paragraph was all I needed SS ty. Gaming and editing is all I will be doing and since that doesnt fall into the category I might just wait until the need for another PSU arrives. I think the reason here was 'striking while the iron is hot' at such a good deal how can you resist

And as a footnote what is California EIT ?

 

That's the exact PSU I upgraded my M860ETU to. With the 120W stock one, I'd exceed the power supply whenever both my QX9300 and GTX 280M were being used heavily.

 

The reason for me wanting to get a higher wattage supply is my Flight simming is very hard on the CPU and GPU, along with frequent hard drive and internet accesses, So the supply will be running along at the least 75-80% of full load for hours at a time. With a higher wattage supply I am putting less wear and tear so to speak on the supply.

Most people are not going to need the extra power.

As for someone charging the battery and running the CPU and GPU in stress tests at the same time: WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? Not a good idea. Specially with the stock supply of 120W. At 160W that would be able to handle it, but then you are going to be really heating up the Mosfet’s to the limit of what they can handle, you do not want to do that very often or for very long.

EIT is engineer in training by the way.

 

That thing looks big... more weight to carry in the backpack .

 

You should see the 180W Targus, it literally is the size of a brick

I had my Targus from my Gateway 7811, it pretty much required a larger supply to overclock the GPU and keep it stable but it works great with the Clevo.

 

Exactly, that is the main reason why I am getting that power supply. The deal is too good to miss out on whether I really need it or not lol.

 

For the M860TU and the rest of the previous generation Clevo line, yes, 5482741. Running a high CPU and GPU overclock as your primary will call the need for a larger PSU. In a WCS with the W8x0CU, the time when the PSU cannot feed the system any further will be very rare. othonda's justification for a larger PSU is sound. Though this may be the conservative side of me talking again, a larger PSU has the capability of supplying the notebook with more power on demand, but when the power draw is the same compared to the 120W PSU, the 160W PSU will not buckle due to the beefier heat tolerances in the form of larger slabs of aluminium. This by all means is a good idea, but Li Shin PSU's are known to survive the hardiest of loads by several users alike and there has not been a single report in this forum where one has gone down for good. Against the initial premise to getting the 160W is as Blacky mentioned, mass and volume. The unit is big and heavy, period. But my argument against it is unfriendly competition. Do we want those losers in the Asus and Alienware forum to laugh at us? Over my dead body. They are slinging around larger 150W and 220W PSU's as well as larger and heavier notebooks compared to the W870CU. Nonetheless, going back to load issues, I'd say gauge your usage habits first. If at anytime you encounter that one instance where your notebook began to show symptoms of power shortage, then that's a sign that it's time to pick up the larger PSU. However, keep in mind of the other limitations that the notebook has to deal with such as heat from overclocking. That additional 2% increase is not worth the bigger consequences that follow it.

 

I'm buying one, just for the straight angle plug.

 

Thought I’d check back and report I got my supply today in the mail. It was scantly packaged in a standard USPS envelope with a thin bubble wrap. The unit did arrive in good shape.

All indications from the appearance of the supply is that it is NEW. The unit does match the picture in the listing and the plug is configured straight. The unit is freaking HUGE and is quite heavy, compared to my tiny little 90W supply on my ASUS G1.

I checked back on the listing and they are sold out. Looked at the history, right after I bought mine and posted my thread there was a run on the remaining 7 units in a matter of two days. Whoever wants one now is out of luck.

Now if my laptop would just get here.

 

Ah bummer planned on getting one next week if you find any similar AC Adapters at a same price let me know

 

Yeah i ordered one because i have a 920 with 2x500gig HDs so the extra juice it offers surely will not hurt plus i really wanted the straight plug just as much as the extra power ... The angled plug gets snagged on things occasionally when moving the laptop around ...

Thanks for posting that link btw...

 

So does it help?
I have a PSU from a NP 9262, I wonder if that would work?

 

I have it too. It works perfect, so good I put it in my signature...

 

The d900 series (and M980/X8100) uses a different power connector, so would not work without physical modding.

 

It's a D901C.
So would that work?

 

The D900/M980/X8100 uses a different power connector to the W860/870, so no it would not work without modding the connector.

D900 series includes D900T/D900K/D900C/D901C/D900F

 

I can't find any power supply anymore

 

They are sold out.

 

Is there any other brand (even if it's bigger) i can use ?

 

Im sure there is I dont know any off the top of my head. Sorry.

 

I have heard this targus works okay. But it has the drawback of a right angle plug. And is even bigger than the 160W model.

http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.aspx?sku=APA05US

Check around on the net you can get them for a lot cheaper than the list price of 129.99.

TO EVERYBODY:

By the way I have emailed the seller of the lin shin 160W to see if they can get a hold of 5-10 more of the Li Shin supplies. If and when I hear back, I will update the thread.

 

Good to know.I have a feeling 5-10 more is not enough

 

Just got mine in today. The brick s indeed big, but the plug is much more secure.

I love it.

 

Yeah its a well built unit. I am running mine on my Asus G1 and it barely gets warm to the touch. Might as well get some run time on it while waiting for my lappy.

 

Just heard back from the ebay seller and the news it not good.

They basically said those supplies are VERY difficult to get and it might be a while before they can get more.

 

Poop!
I'm sure some other rescourceful member will find another supply.

 

So how's the new PSU holding up?
Any more or similar models out there?
I've looked everywhere and nothing.

 

I spent some time looking this weekend and this sucker is hard to find. I found a few places that say they have it, but charge 70-90 bucks. There was a place in the bay area that had it advertised on the web site, I called and they were going to check with the "factory" never heard back from them. I think the best bet is keep searching Ebay, and hope more pop up. Also the Targus I mention above is an option.

 

Mine came today and is working fine... I dont think mine was new though or surely did not look that way at all but its working as intended so i cant say much else because the price was reasonable....

 

That seems like a bummer. What makes you think it's not new? Is the cable or plug worn? Is the case beat up?

 

The case is slightly warn out looking ... One of the stickers was very off colored like someone left a cigarette next to it all the time lol.. It also smelled pretty bad ... Almost like smoke but hard to tell.... Kind of a sweet smell like pipe tobacco if i had to compare it to something... It works as i said so that made me happy but when you list something as "NEW" i would expect it to be close to that ...

 

I got mine last week and it looked Brand New! Works so well just getting barely warm!

 

For the price im not complaining at all just passing along what i saw and smelled lol ....

 

Regardless of price, you still didn't get what was advertised in the contract between the both of you so that's unacceptable in my opinion. At the very least my feedback would reflect this.

I remember I purchased an item from Ebay once that was advertised as new but when I received it, it smelled like smoke on the inside and the box was worn. I contacted the seller and eventually they admitted it and offered me a partial refund or a replacement. I don't believe in keeping quiet about things I am not totally satisfied with lol.

When I receive mine, it better be new.....

 

If the seller had more available i might have raised abit of a stink about it ... Since he does not though and does not know if/when he will get more ill just live with it ... If this thing cost me $100.00 i would have been livid but for less then $40.00 ill get over it ....

 

It's hard to answer. I've been so busy with poker that I haven't played a single game since I got the thing.

I can say that the plug is awesome. It's a much tighter fit and never comes out unless on purpose.

 

I found it in PCHub here for 50 $
Condition: Used

I'm not sure if I really need it, benchmarking period is over for me