Anyone know how to further OC i7-4810mq 2.8ghZ using Intel Extreme Tuning?
Or where i can find info on it, to where i can maybe copy someone's specs?
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thx
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
I don't think you need to unlock it by the looks of that picture.
You up the multiplier to your target speed, see what voltage is the minimum for the speed and see if that is thermally stable. You will have to increase the current limit up to 112A. -
some said max is 400mhz?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Yes it's a max of 400mhz so if you want to target 4ghz (don't bother trying 4.1 and 4.2 for 2 and 1 core, keep them all the same) for 4 cores then see what voltage it's stable at and go from there.
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Overclocked my CPU i7-4810mqCPU +400mhz 4.0ghz
** at first i had the first two cores at 42 & 41 but was unstable.
got 3 restarts and one with blue screen.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Yep which is why I said don't bother with it
the extra voltage needed to make those states stable is not worth the quad core power hit.
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still getting pretty hot, had a restart after 15min of bf4 gameplay.
was getting low 90s high 80s in high action and 100s in reg play, crazy ahah.
gonna need to get temps lower too, gonna still play around.
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FINALLY GOT IT STABLE without any crash/restarts after like 10 restarts haha
passed stress test of 5-10ish min ( i know you should do at least 25min+) and also 10-15min of bf4!
now i just gotta fine tweak this shiet
moving it slowly, keeps on getting better
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Try and keep the posts just to one thread
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:-D what meaker said ^^
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YEA! it's exciting and i wanna share my results. yea i will haha my bad. i'll keep it here lol
Here's my stable oc at 4.0GHz with a score of 757. Made the top 10 for our processors!
now to just play around.
if anyone got tips or anything keep me posted!
maybe move sliders to 42, 41?
is it really worth it?
processor cache ratio to 39 or 40?
template i made
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
You are at the max the CPU can do with 4 cores without touching the reference clock.
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maybe move sliders of core 1/2 to 42, 41?
is it really worth it?
or should i just keep on playing with values.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Like I said that will increase your voltage requirements while making your 4 core speeds hotter (which is the most commonly used turbo state when you need the performance).
The only way to go further is adjusting the base clock which usually has a maximum adjustment of 7% (if you are lucky). -
Just playing around still.
When it crashes, what's the first thing you try to adjust?
i like this, hope it's stable-ish. gonna test it out with xtu stress test 30ish min, 5to10 intel burn tests and prime
just some fun files
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Crashing is usually a voltage issue.
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bought this cooler to keep it cool. will definitely help with temps
also ran a quick test for my 4.0ghz clock, so far so good.
will run longer once i get my cooler
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just beware that a laptop cooler also hastens dust build up inside ur machine, so u need to clean it more often than without cooler
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
At least it's not like asus where you need to take the whole machine apart to deep clean it, just remove the main hatch, take out the fans (which are secured separately from the heatsinks themselves.
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How are your idle temps, OC'd and not? Just got mine the other day and want to make sure I'm in the correct range.
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what ram are you running and at what mhz?
EDIT: damn i just saw you running 4910MQ, wonder how i can use some of yur setup similar to mine
Everytime i tough dynamic cpu voltage offset, i always get bSOD!
Working on my benchmark, highest i got was 787.
so far with this setup voltage is way more constant. no little random dips etc. a lot smoother
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
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What size power brick do you have? Your power draw limits seem a little low for 4GHz. I've been able to draw 94W on my CPU package with 3.8GHz at stock voltage. If you have a 230W PSU (on the single GPU models) or a 330W PSU (on the SLI models) then you should relax the maximum power limits to about 100W for 4GHz just in case.
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His power draw is definitely way too low. His XTU score @ 4GHz is lower than what my 4900MQ rakes in at a BONE STOCK 3.6GHz (~800)!!
I don't have my Clevo right now but if memory serves, for 4GHz on all 4 cores you need to push the power slider to at least 100W. I personally leave the power at 150W and be done with it, since I've never seen my 4900MQ go over 125W even when benching XTU.
Also, that current limit is also probably holding back the actual overclock. Even at stock my 4900MQ seems to do progressively better in XTU all the way up to 95A, and that's only at 3.6GHz. I'd go with at least 120A for 4GHz.
Now lsramair's 4910MQ @ 4GHz is right where I'd expect the XTU score to be at.
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Also the boost power time should go as high as possible; I think that's 128 seconds? -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Well if he enables the TDP and throttle % graphs in XTU it should display what is going on fairly nicely.
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Just got my NP9377 last week. Here are my scores in XTU:
My cpu is a 4910MQ. Test is a 4GHz run and Turbo is the 3.9GHz run. Strangely my 3.9G oc is faster than my 4G oc. I did another run at 3.8G oc and it scored the same as my 3.9G run so I may end up keeping the cpu at 3.8G for 24/7 use with no throttling and some overhead to allow for higher room temps in summer. -
40x on 1, 2, 3 and 4 active cores
turbo boost power max 120W
turbo boost short power max 120W
Processor current limit 130A
voltage offset -30mV
And see if that works. Remember to use max fans and prop the machine up so it has better airflow so it passes the test. If that doesn't work, increase the voltage by 5mV until it's stable (I.E. from -30mV to -25mV then to -20mV until stable).
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
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I don't know why people are so afraid of bumping the current and power sliders. Those are limits not "levels" meaning it's basically a cap. The CPU will only take as much as it needs.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Well it will make it hotter by unleasing it for longer, care wants to be taken with all the settings when starting out. But yes the voltage is the one to be very careful with.
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That's true, my response was more of a "why is my XTU score than that guy on HWBot? Hmm seems like his power and current limits are set much higher let me raise mine by 5% and see what happens" type of thing.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
A lot of people are unsure about what each setting physically does, they are just raising sliders. In that case caution is at least safe.
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doing small tweaks here and there.
my oc failed after a couple of days while browsing :\
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
It may be the idle voltages that are out rather than the load ones if you are browsing.
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He's been messaging me, saying he left it at stock voltage, so I told him to raise it slightly as he's using adaptive. Unless there's a way to bump idle voltages without bumping load voltages? If so, I'm new to that and would like to learn myself XD
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
No it's all linked as far as I am aware so you have to balance it out for the whole clock range.
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Current OC, hasn't failed since 12/27
Played aprox 6 hours of Bf4 on it, watched videos, quick prime95 test, stress test from intel, hd video stream, etc
I'm gonna do a stronger test once i upgrade my laptop cooler with small high rpm fans that ordered at 5800RPM.
BF4 temps are in the 80s.
Idling temps are high 40s, or at 50.
Only played with 4 settings.( red boxes)
*also is it worth it to get little heat sinks for msata drive? i have 2X SAMSUNG 840 EVO msata drives (250gb & 120gb)
link: heat sink for memory chip | eBay
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I suggest setting your cache ratio to 40x, but that's the only thing I can think of that's off about this. You could set current limit to 120A if you want. What machine do you have? If you have the P17xSM-A model, you could get a 330W power adapter and really release those power draw limits XD.
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I dunno, something seems off, that XTU score of 760 is way way way too low for 4GHz, even assuming 8GB of 1600 ram. Like I said with my stock 4900MQ and 16GB of 1600 ram I was getting around 805 in XTU.
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Could be part of it, but XTU is fairly ram agnostic for Ivy. XTU gives a huge boost if it detects a Haswell chip, and with Haswell both speed and quantity of ram seem to matter a lot.
My 4930K (hex core) @ 4.5GHz with quad channel 1866 ram gives around 1350. My 4900MQ @ 4.2GHz with dual channel 2400 ram gives almost 1100 in XTU. That a hex core is only ~20% faster than a quad core clearly points to something being off about XTU.
If I drop the ram speed to 1866 my 4900MQ @ 4.2 gives around 1020. With the 4930K, dropping ram speed to 1600, or boosting to 2133 had negligible impact (<5 points) on XTU.D2 Ultima likes this. -
how about just using a different cpu benchmark? seems like xtu just gives non-reproducible crappy results
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No the results are very reproducible, but trying to compare CPU performance across different generations using XTU is not a good idea because Haswell has such a ridiculous advantage.
Oh and I forgot to mention, if you have a Haswell chip, HT gives you a nice boost in XTU but if you have an Ivy (and possibly earlier chip), HT is actually detrimental to the XTU results. With HT disabled I get 1400 in XTU with my 4930K, but with HT on it drops to around 1350. Crazy huh?Last edited: Dec 31, 2014papusan likes this.
Further OC i7-4810mq 2.8ghZ using Intel Extreme Tuning help?
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