GPU temp = 96..97°C !!! Clevo P170HM

Clevo P170HM with CPU Intel Core i7 2860QM & GPU GeForce GTX 580M

In during test Geeks3D FurMark 1.9.2 I have temperature of GPU = 96..97°C !!!
Idle - 38...46 °C

In "Clevo Guide v3.0 - FAQ and Reseller Info ****READ BEFORE POSTING**** " - write......
"...Any temperature for any component above 95C is dangerous. That includes CPU, GPU, RAM,.." !!!!!!!

Fan working normal, on MAX. Thermal grease is new...

This is normal or not ?
Can somebody will check up this test? ( Geeks3D FurMark 1.9.2)

 

Furmark is not a representation of a real life load on the card. Run 3Dmark Vantage and check if you are hitting above 85C. If not, you are ok.

 

Ok, now I am dowloading 3Dmark Vantage...... and will check.
P.S In CrySis2 GPU hitting to 89...90C

 

That's too high. Is the laptop sitting on a flat surface with no vent obstruction?
You may wanna repaste it and check for possible heatsink contact issues, dust, etc .

 

have you ever cleaned out the fans?
the no. 1 problem with high temps is a build up of dust around the fans and vents.

 

Laptop sitting on a flat (table). I have renewed thermal paste on GPU....

 

A little high but not alarming. At 90c, you have 15c of safety.

 

Fan in clean !! My laptop bought 2 week ago ! All inside is pure!

 

Make sure you've put the battery power plan to Performance.

P.S. What kind of material is this table of yours made out of?

 

Now I am holding my laptop by hand 1m over table !
Not difference...

 

There's definitely something wrong. Try reseating the heatsinks and repasting again.

 

You are getting worked up about nothing really. Getting 97c from power virus program like Furmark is fine. And getting 90c from high demanding game like Crysis is within acceptable range.

As long as you can use your laptop and not get BSOD or hard freeze, it's going to be fine really.

Even desktop GPUs get near 100c from Furmark.

 

Furmark is best used to check stability of a system not for temp monitoring. It's ideal after you've overclocked your system to see if its stable at your new clocks. Gaming benchmark programs like 3D mark vantage will get you the most accurate temps, better yet fire up your favorite game and check the temps after some time on there.

 

Those temps maybe ok but other sections could easily be too high can you check the HWINFO sensors and fire up furmark and post a screeny of your results because the diode temperature that it reads is normally a good 5-10oC lower than the MEM(IO) and Shader temps so you could be running over 100oC in places.

If you have repasted and cleaned what thermal compound did you use and how did you apply it? The biggest factor when temps run too high and it is not dust related is application, the surface of the DIE on the 6990M is a lot bigger than most so the credit card application is not good enough your best bet is to go with a blob of ICD or likewise thick TIM and let it do the rest for you.

I dont see above 80oC even with Furmark and general use is around 75oC by applying thick line of PK1 Thermaltech straight down the middle of the DIE and reseating the heatsink. Although people say that Furmark is not a great tool to use on the 6990M as you say you are seeing 90oC with Crysis and that stresses just as hard under maximum settings so there must be something not right.

 

3DMark Vantage Extreme GPU test ..... 85-90C

 

You have HD 6990M.... I have GeForce GTX 580M

Maybe is this reason ??

 

Those temps are way too high for the 580M. Like I said, try repasting (ICD24) and checking the heatsink contact.

 

As he said ^^ no that is the opposite reason the 580M is renouned for running cooler than a 6990M so my temps play no part in this, fact you are running too hot.

What do your HWINFO sensors look like? I assume Nvidia does not have separate temp sections on there actually :/

How did you repaste? Did you apply a blob of compound and reseat? if so it may not have covered the die sufficiently. If you apply it using the card method of smoothing the compound over the die this is a poor way of applying it to a mobile GPU its best to go with the blob/Pea method.

 

HWINFO.....

GPU fan parametre is not correct...

Before Geeks3D FurMark 1.9.2



During Geeks3D FurMark 1.9.2

I have used "the card method of smoothing the compound"....
If I will reseat by "Blob/Pea", which size blob needs?

 

Now, that you mentioned the fan... Maybe try re-flashing the BIOS again. When repasting, I normally use a prolonged blob and let the HS to spread it.

 

I have now last "BIOS 1.01.10" and EC/KBC V 1.00.09
P.S I have reflashed my laptop after bougth 2 week ago....


Are you really think, what after correct repasting - temperature can fall on 10C ?
Is it reason overheating my GPU ?

 

Selgot, when you reapply the TIM, either put a pea sized dot in the centre, or do what i found works best on the 580m and do the line method (west to east)

Then once the line/blob has been applied to the GPU, gently sit the HS ontop of the TIM, (do not push HS down at all with your hands, let it sit ontop of the TIM like a hat) then screw each side down in the correct numbered order (as Aikimox has said, let the heatsink spread it)

I did my own R&D with my 580m, reapplied the TIM about 5 different times trying 5 different ways, and the method that proved best for me, was applying the line method, then gently sitting heatsink on top of the TIM like a hat, then screwing down in numbered order and letting the HS do its job, and that was the best way to make good contact...

When I sat heatsink ontop of TIM, and then squished it down onto the GPU with my fingers THEN tightened it, the heatsink would then lift up the slightest and break contact and i would get terrible temperatures.

Give that a go and let us know

Cheers

 

That is going to be your problem I hate that method as it can cause an uneven surface and also can cause bubbles to form.

Repaste using a blob of a TIM, ICD is one of the easiest to apply because it is so thick you literally apply a blob or a short line of compound dead centre of the DIE and then reseat the heatsink and screw in as numbered.

 

Absolutely use the blob method, or the pea method.

They work great. If you spread it out yourself, air bubbles can form and it may be to thin for a proper contact.

 

As previously stated, Furmark/Kombuster will literally turn your GPU into a heater element. It will crank out some serious BTUs! While gaming, even with the most GPU intensive games, your temps will come nowhere near that high.

 

1. OK... I want to compare to others Clevo P170HM with GPU GTX 580M..... Similarly as at me or not?

2. In game Crisys-2 I have about 90C !

3. Small test....

- After start Furmark in 1 sec - temperature felt by finger really high...
- After 10 sek - really not probably to hold a finger more than 0.5 сек!!
T= 96C



Therefore, I think that contact of the chip to a radiator is the normal!






After contact ice to those place - the temperature quickly goes down to 80C!




P.S .... IMHO/ Maybe the system of cooling GPU 580M not effective ?
Or.... I dont know.....

And more....
What about ? Not exact coincidence of the of the fan and radiators



The request to owners Clevo (Sager) with 580M - check by Geeks3D FurMark 1.9.2 temperature!

 

Your cooling system is exactly the same as everyone elses and it will naturally be cooler where the fan is extracting the heat.....

You just need to repaste as already mentioned because you have applied the compound using the credit card method which is diabolical for mobile GPU's as the heatsink never fit perfectly.

Get some ICD and repaste using the blob method. Mine below also does not line up exactly with the fans and it make no difference.

 

OK, now I am waiting IC24 Diamond Thermal Compound... Maybe some days.
Yestarday, I has repasted using blob metod.... But I do not have brand thermo compound :-( I have China noname.
And I did not have expected result from repasting.... :-( As before was 96C, as now 96C

And... I am repeating my request.. Can anybody perform "Geeks3D FurMark" with GPU 580M for compare temperature?

 

The compound with make a difference with the blob if it is not thick enough, what compound is a minor thing although ICD does seem to perform better than most it is the thickness that is key.

Make sure you are thoroughly cleaning off the old compound with alcoholic swabs.

 

Now....

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And again... 96C !!!!!!!!!

P.S That is visible at chip warming up... To 92... 96 degrees temp go very quickly. Then as "cuts off" temperature and it is constant 96-97.
And it does not depend on a way of drawing of paste....




Not to be pleasant to me this diagram of temperature! Why sharp "bend" on 96C ????

 

That compound looks like Asus home brand

Try with ICD but still with Furmark 90oC's is acceptable as long as you are gaming below 90oC.

 

Sorry, it was my mistake, not 90C ... correct 96C in Furmark !!
I have rectified an mistake in previos post.

 

Selgot,

Make sure when you take off the heatsink apart from the GPU, the thermal paste is well spread around the die of the 580M because I suspect a bad contact between the cooper and the die (bad fit) for whatsoever reasons

 

Ok. Now I do not have paste.... I spent all reserves of my paste for experiments...
Now I am waiting new lots... IC24 Diamond Thermal Compound. Some time....
And next time I will make pictures "step by step" and post here!!
I want to find the reason overheating my GPU !!

 

I'm having the same problem with my MSI notebook with a 580m. 96 degrees exactly in Furmark. I'm also waiting on some IC Diamond to do a reapplication. Although, I bought mine from a very reputable retailer and I do not believe they did a bad job, my fear is that its just a bad 'fit'.

 

I think that necessary information of temperature in Furmark from owners 580m !

 

I will run furmark for you guys when I got home in an hour or so.

Stock clocks and voltage.

 

What's your gaming temp?

 

Have you tried raising the back of the laptop? i find if the laptop sits completely flat on a surface, the temps are higher but if you raise the back slightly, it makes a big difference.

Also, I wouldn't recommend ICD for experimentation because it is difficult to clean, try MX3 or MX4 using the line method.

 

All this effort...perhaps an RMA might be in order?

 

Please keep in mind that FurMark is meant to push your GPU to its limits, so if you are getting 90-97 in FurMark that isn't to say it is terrible. What are your temps in games like BF3 or Crysis 2? If they are lower, I would not worry about your temps. If they are getting higher in games, then it would be a cause to worry.
As other comments have stated, blowing out dust in your heatsinks and fans and ensuring it is on a flat, solid surface certainly helps out significantly.

 

In Crysis2 (Adrenaline Crysis 2 Benchmark Tool) I have about 90C-92C




In DCS A-10C (Flight sim) - 91-92C

 

Those are definitely still warmer temps than should be seen for day to day use with the 580m. Have you had a chance to repaste it yet? What are your ambient temps like?

 

I'd have to agree with Malibal #2. Those temps do seem a bit warmer than they should be for gaming. I'd consider repasting and see if that improves the temps a bit. I'd recommend either Arctic Silver 5 or IC Diamond if you don't already have them.

 

I had the same issue with my gpu...repasted with ICD like a million times...Notebookcooler...no change...
Replaced the 580m with a new one...it ran 5c cooler...exchanged the heatsinks and it dropped an other 5c...modded the airflow with tape and it dropped an other 5...
Finally I used an undervolt BIOS (0.8v on 3D clocks) mod to bring the temps down even more:

http://www.mvktech.net/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/files/Clevo_GTX580M_02_080v.zip

I can't overclock it more than 650/1300/1600, but this should definitely help your card to run cooler.
Overall it went from 97c down to 72c on the same benchmark!
CPU is still too hot...have RAM coolers coming in on the weekend which will be put on the heatsinks...maybe will mod the bottom plate next...summer is approaching and knows no mercy here

 

First....
On stock clocks 620/1500 - with mod BIOS, 580M are working normal?
What negative from this mod BIOS ? Only positive ?

Second...
About reflash GPU BIOS. How can I make it?

 

The BIOS has stock clocks and just keeps 0,8v for 2D and 3D clocks.
I am running folding at home sometimes 24/7 with the OC mentioned above and no trouble at all (one slight error and folding wouldn't work ).
I have also not heard of other people running into any trouble...you should check stability after flashing just to make sure.

I am traveling right now could someone here please guide him through the flashing process and get him nvflash etc...

 

I am waiting from someone guide the reflash 580M BIOS !!

 

That's crazy that you need to undervolt your beast GPU to run it well and cool, this is not acceptable for such a laptop and price.
I will consider a RMA to be honest, I know some peeps had issues with the P150hm to cool down properly their 580M and used the undervolt vbios (0.85v), tape between the heatsink vents and fan to cover any outlet air, re-paste and re-pads with ICD and High conductivity thermal pads (1mm, phobya 7w/mk) and it made a very big difference.

If you check my thread here MSI16F2 with GTX580M, you will see some thermal mods you could do to your laptop but still it shouldn't run as warm as it does right now.

 

The NVFLASH folder needs to be put in C:\ and the BIOS file into the NVFLASH folder.
Once there you need to run CMD as administrator Then when in CMD navigate to the NVFLASH directory Once in the directory you need to run the following command line:

c:\nvflash nvflash.exe –6 romnamehere.rom

There will be some onscreen prompts in the CMD window asking if you want to continue, just hit “Y”/”YES” and it will continue and finish.
Restart once done and enjoy your lower temps!


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