GT300M on NVIDIA's WEBSITE!

hei guys, im getting overexcited now. just as i was browsing through nvidia's website for drivers, i found this!

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us

GeForce 300M and 285M have been listed on the driver page! go check it out yourself!! GT300M is just around the corner!!!

i know this is old news because the list was found inside the inf for their latest drivers some time ago, but heck, now on nvidia's website??? that means something!

Update 1: Looks like nvidia is trying to be funny here. getting us all excited and pulling it away at the last minute. anyho, for those who missed it, you still have the screenshots below as prove. so is the release of GT300M imminent?

Update 2: For the curious ones, GT300M and GTX285M is still shown on UK's site. here is the link. http://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-uk

Update 3: Taken down from UK site now.. looks like screen shots and speculations are all we have.. for now..

Update 4: Looks like 310M and GT 330M solid hardware info has been leaked, all through nvidia's driver. check out the attached image.

The GeForce G 310M looks like the upcoming entry level GPU for laptops by Nvidia. Compared to the current GeForce G 210M, only the shader clock speed was bumped up slightly. Therefore, the power consumption could be improved (as the 40nm process is finally getting better as rumors say).

The GeForce GT 330M is the successor of the GeForce GT 230M. The number of shader cores still stays the same, but the clock rates were improved significantly. The GT 330M should therefore be even faster than the current GT 240M chip. The power consumption should still be in the range of the GT 230M (as the 330M name implies).

source: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Newsentry.153+M52f66978254.0.html

 

Thanx,

And we already know they are supported by the W860/W870/M980/D900F.

Those with the 280M should prepare for upgrade .

 

just waiting for the site to be updated with all the specs! when can i get one???!!

 

But I just got my 280M.. >.<

 

i know they are supported, and this is old news because the list was found inside the inf for their latest drivers, but heck, now on nvidia's website??? that means something!

 

Given Nvidia's past, about one month until you can get your hands on one.

RJ Tech / Sager will probably sell them separately for 500 USD.

 

i can imagine how many people are going to stuff one into their np8662s if it's possible

 

So for the entire wave of people that just bought the W860CU or the new 17" is there any other practical way of upgrading, besides buying the new card?

 

as long as they are out this year, and not the rumoured Q1/2 2010, im more than happy! im sure most of you share the same enthusiasm as me!

 

MXM 2.1 go go

 

Don´t know how the Quadro FX 3800M goes.....

 

Unfortunately no.

But who knows, maybe the 285M GTX is just a 280M GTX with higher clocks... so we could just flash the 285M GTX BIOS on the 280M.
But 300M is probably a different core and 40nm.

 

you mean flashing GT300M BIOS into 200M cards? im sorry to say, no. the whole physical card is entirely different for each series. im afraid buying a new one is the only way to go here mate.

 

How long do you think that the MXM 3.0 slot will be around 'til they find the next best thing.

I tried to find out how many cards were associated with the 2.1 slot to get an idea. Pretty much I'd want to wait until the last card they come out with that supports the 3.0 MXM slot. A year, two years for it to become a thing of the past?

 

If Blacky is right, then the GT300M parts will be MXM3.0b as well, which should fit just fine into W860, 870 and alienware M15X, M17X. correct me if im wrong, but most recent clevo's laptops are MXM3.0 compatible right?

 

I would give it 2-3 years. It like AGP/ PCI-E / PCI-E2 and so on.

 

Yeah, they have MXM 3.0.

But we already have the latest nvidia drivers from Sager, and we know that the 285M will be offered on all the new laptops W860/W870/D900F/M980

The 360M will only be available for the W860/W870.

Makes me believe the 285M is a superior card to the 360M. The 1000 point question now.... is the 360M directx 11 ?

 

Yes they are. I`m guessing the GT300 are MXM3.0b (anything else would be a bummer for new Clevo/alienware owners), but I`m guessing next gen won`t fit. Money talks.

 

Will they be based on the desktop GTX 200 series? (without the 512bit bus width, of course)

And will the GTS 360m be better than the GTS 280m?

Hmm... I guess I don't really have to sell my m860tu now.

 

You're right. Sorry, it's starting to get late and I can't find the right wording. I just need to read a bit of Nvidia's history to find out how long the MXM 3.0 slot will still be supported for upcoming gpu's.

oops. already answered, thanks Blacky!

 

Dono if there wil be new GPU for TU series, just hope.......

 

Why would you believe the 285M is more powerful than 360M? any personal thoughts/insights you wana share? hehe

well, the DX11 question is indeed hard to answer. The GT200 core is designed for DX10 and the only iteration we know of is DX10.1 derived from that core, which suggests DX11 might not be present in GT300M. however, if ATI releases mobility 5000 series with DX11, nvidia might be in real hot soup. of course, all these talks are assuming that GT300M will be based on GT200. but who knows, fermi for GT300M??

 

Could be Fermi, yes.

I am saying that is not that powerful because all the top end clevo's got the 285M but not the 360M. Makes me believe that 285M remains top of the line, otherwise they would not avoid putting 360M in laptops like D900F or M980.

 

could it be D900F and M980 are making the transition to Clarksfield core i7 in the near future?

now that you mentioned it, it does seems odd that the highest GT300M model is gtS 360M, instead of gtX 360M. nvidia normally gives the "X" suffix to a higher end model for their cards, and non of the GT300M has "X" to begin with.

i sure hope GTX 285M will not be YET ANOTHER G92b core shrinked to 40nm. it's getting really boring these days with all the renaming business going on

 

the D900F already has i7.

The M980 will move to i7 in the near future, yes.

 

ah, my mistake. D900F is running on desktop i7.

 

Wait, I just ordered a 8690.
Does this mean I should cancel my order untill the new cards come out? How much could I sell a gtx280 for, almost brand new?

 

Probably you won't be able to sell it. It's MXM 3.0, there are no lower cards than the 280M GTX on MXM 3.0.
I would cancel if I were you.

 

With the difference in power be extreme?
How much will this card cost, aproximatley(in your opinion)
Also, around a month is the problem I dont think I can cancel, as myold laptop broke and I badly need a new one.

 

The difference in power will probably be small. I have no idea about pricing.

 

I cant really comment on the power/performance difference, but i'd say a solid 20-30% difference should be expected. apart from performance, the reduction in size (40nm) should be a real welcoming part for the new chips. you can expect overall cooler operation (or maybe not if they increased the number of transistors by millions), reduction in power usage (less heat, better battery life), increased frequency and number of transistors (more shader units), etc.

 

Im going ot order, then next year when the gtx380 comes out Ill get that, the 280 is fine for current games.

 

Hehe I'm with ya there buddy. Although, my hands are tied, 3 more days 'til I get my NP8690, oh man has it been a long wait!

 

i think there wont be another refresh until arrandale came out..and...coup'd with GT300b(a GT200b rename?)

 

GTS360M will likely be a rebadged GTS260M. Or since we havent even seen the GTS260M you could say its not a rebadge. But anyway, same 96 shaders and maybe slightly higher clocks.

I think they will save the GTX tag for GT200-based cards with 112 shaders or more.

 

My 9800m GT is working just fine. No need to upgrade to these cards.

I would imagine those with the 260/280 series cards are in an even better position to be happy with their cards

 

You're right, I'm just fine and dandy with the QX9300 and 280M combo. I'd like to see a press release from Nvidia about the 300M series, but since I'm absolutely sure I won't be able to upgrade, I can't let myself get excited, haha.

 

@Blacky

What do you mean the W860CU has the GTX285M? I thought they had the 280M?

So, if I wait one more month from now, I would expect a newer vidcard for the 860CU in R&JTech? GT300 series cards in them?

Also, why does NVIDIA already have drivers for the GT300 if it's not even released yet?

 

The thing is 3x0m series aren't necessarily the only 40nm NV mobile card, cos currently GPUs like 240m, 250m are already 40nm. I think what Nv might do, is to make 285m another die-shrinked G92b - perhaps 40nm version of 280, along with GDDR5, which NV is starting to use; higher clock is likely as well, plus slightly lower power usage.

The timing somewhat reminds me the early 8x00 era, 8600m,etc came out, sold along side the 7950 Go GTX - the latter being tweaked version of the existing flagship 7900 Go GTX; but it wasn't until the release of 8800m GTX, 6 month later, was the old high-end phased out. I think the same might happen again, the fact Nv has to refresh 280m GTX could indicate that the future cards are quite a while away.

 

I'm going to totally agree with Quicklite on the idea of a new top-end mobile GPU being a long way away.

As for why Nvidia offers drivers for yet to be released GPUs... it's just to prove to the masses they exist, and to taunt people like us who thrive on the bleeding edge of technology.

 

The latests drivers from Clevo include support for the GTX 285M in the W860/W870/D900F/M980

It's the 4th time I am writting this on the forum.

This means that in a short while, the W860CU will be offered with a 285M.

 

This is my Soviet conservatism thinking again: GDDR3, 40nm shrink of the aging G92, higher clocks, only offered in MXM 3.0, expected to be officially announced after Black Friday and released in December. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

40nm and G92 doesn't make sense. If anything, 285M would be a GT216 or whatever based GPU, in 40nm with DX10.1, with 128 shaders and GDDR5. If that were MXM 2.1, I'd gladly upgrade and call it a day, but that won't happen.

 

Look at driverpage, they have removed the 300M and the 285M.

 

So I am the only one thinking the 285M is just a 280M with higher clocks ?

 

Oh it will be, prolly 625/1500/1000 lol, and Soviet, I hate to say it, but I could see them pulling a rabbit out of a hat that was in the rabbit who was already in the hat, that had been pulled out of another rabbit, who was in another hat! G92 gets more recycled than an aluminum can!
Why do I see this comming? they can't put a GTX260 in a laptop yet, and what is between a desktop 9800GTX and a GTX260? GTS250..which is a rebranded 9800GTX lol. So unless they pull off a miracle and throw a GTX260 in a MXM factor...then we could be seeing yet another rebrand. but if they manage to put a GTX260 in a laptop, then wow! We could be seeing a new age of nV pwnage on ATI ( GTX300 ? ). BUT with Fermi coming out, nV seems to be putting it's chips in that market right now.. the article I read said the laptop competition could go ATI's way.

 

I bet the 300M will suck

 

I share the same view.

 

With the GTX 300 on the horizon, a gain of too much would not make sense. I agree with Soviet and the 40nm shrink and keeping GDDR3. Higher clock speeds and possible DX10.1. GDDR5 is extremely unlikely to by included; it's extremely overrated anyways.

 

looks like i captured the screenshots just in time! now why would they do that?